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Originally Posted by patron
Yes, they didn't value Chris as an ally enough, simply for telling Wardog, who they should have known he was already talking to/allied with. That was their mistake.
Chris didn't turn against Rick or David or one of their own, he simply didn't want to leave Wardog completely out of it. Chris had voted with and was allied with Rick and David every single time. On the other hand, Wardog almost immediately turned on Chris, proving that relationship was not very strong. Voting Chris out may have been good for Wardog and Wentworth, but David and Rick should have seen that it is terrible for them, since it almost assures they are in the minority, down 2-3, hoping for wild card Wendy to tie it up. They should have seen that Wardog was allying himself with Wentworth, not them.
Whereas Chris would have been a sure thing with them. I mean, Wardog, Wentworth, and Lauren had turned on him and tried to vote him out. Of course Chris wouldn't trust them, and would stick with David and Rick, who he had always been allied with.
How is any of the above disputable? If you want to present an argument against it vs gut feel, I'll keep an open mind, but so far there's not much of an argument to the contrary. Oh, and I think part of the reason David said that the timing wasn't right for Wentworth in this episode is that he finally realized that Wardog wouldn't turn against Wentworth, so he tried to make the target Lauren instead, which still failed.
sorry, I agree that voting out Chris was a mistake. I was just pointing out why they might have done it, and saying it was pretty unforeseeable that Rick would be next off as a result. because they would've anticipated (a) a normal swap (b) a 3-3 vote with wendy, and maybe being able to sway wardog or (c) just being able to take the easy vote with wendy. it makes a big difference when the bottom of the group is suddenly removed
i do think it's more complicated for david though, especially if you look at the big picture numbers. their tribe is the complete minority, so he probably figures he needs to get joe and aubry on his side and form a new alliance with vets and some of the new players. so voting kelley off would go directly against that
and this was worst case scenario, but even now you could see a situation where it becomes:
joe/aubry/david/kelley
aurora/lauren/wardog
and then its 7 on 7 already
which is much better than the current numbers of 9 original kama vs 5 original manu (with wendy against them)
so for david, even though it didn't work out, i think there's arguments to be made for why he wants kelley in the game. granted, you could take all that logic and say he was bad for plotting against her in the first place, which i'd agree with. i'd say he originally did it just to blend in with that section of his tribe and keep his options open, but i think he got in too deep and felt he could erase that just by voting out chris
for rick, i can't really explain it other than if david was voting chris out, rick would have no choice at that point. we don't know whose decision it really was so it's very hard to say. i don't remember even seeing many confessionals from rick about voting strategy.