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12-13-2018 , 05:15 AM
Absolutely hate, hate, hate Nick creating a fake idol and then finding it himself in front of others. He had it set up so well with a half decent looking fake one, with a legitimate note, and completely butchered it.

Yes it may have got some to stop looking (evidently not well enough), but the target it created on him was so not worth it. When someone goes to play it and is subsequently voted it, when all the tea is spilled at FTC, that will look soooo much better then creating and finding your own fake one to stop people looking - when he didn't even find the idol in any case. The whole ploy ended up making him lose his real one!
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12-13-2018 , 06:58 AM
I really like that Davie presumably didn't tell Nick about his idol and didn't mention anything about this being the only tribal he could play it when he used it. It got Nick to waste his idol after trying that terribly conceived fake idol play.
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12-13-2018 , 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Punker
You did see he thought his plan failed and didn't even vote for Christian, right? Or the repeated attpts he made to suggest plays which were utterly ignored by everyone? He has no shot, and is a complete goat.
Disagree completely. In a F3 of Mike and any 2 other Goliaths, he is at least 50/50 with Alison to win.
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12-13-2018 , 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by El Rata
only rooting for davie now
Yeah same here pretty much. I like Nick also. If the F3 is all Goliaths it's gonna be a letdown ending to a fantastic season.
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12-13-2018 , 09:10 AM
I loved the episode though i dont like smoke and mirrors. Mike’s plan was well laid out for us. Honestly, everyone who considered not voting out Christian is idiotic.
We didnt need to see a ton of Christian in his boot, because we’ve seen his story unfold for two months. We already understand why he has to be eliminated. It was cool how they left things open-ended going into tribal council. If they showed us anymore of the plannong, there would be zero ambiguity.

The only other thing they couldve done is lay out the plan and then show Davie pondering saving Christian with his exploding idol. Im guessing Davie didnt even consider it
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12-13-2018 , 10:08 AM
Mike is one of the worst ever.

Alison is also a massive idiot for telling Mike the Nick plan.

Mike was correct about Christian, but time and time again the votes reveal that he is completely clueless about what is going to happen and has 0 influence or control of votes.

Angelina seems so unliked by everyone that shes basically a lock to get dragged to the final and get 0 jury votes.

Really hope Davie wins and he deserves it. Has consistently made good decisions and analyzed situations correctly. Very good social awareness.
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12-13-2018 , 10:08 AM
If only they could have waited one more week to go after Carl- what a huge turning point that vote was.
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12-13-2018 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
you're very lacking in logical thoughts

not even gonna bother arguing if you're this bad at thinking logically or rationally
cool, glad you posted this
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12-13-2018 , 10:29 AM
All the mike hate is lol. He wanted Christian gone and Christian is gone.

Mike obviously split votes and knew who the target was.
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12-13-2018 , 10:42 AM
GOAT 1st season gonna GOAT.

I loved Christian like everybody else, but taking favoritism out of it, there was some great Survivoring going on in that episode.

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WHAAAAAAAAT

I thought there was 0% christian was going out tonight like literal zero based on the editing

they almost gave him no air time during the episode for the first time ever, they usually give a lot of bonus time to people about to get voted out (usually with some foreshadowing keywords or phrases they said) And they set him up the whole season with massive positive TV time that usually means final tribal or at least backstabbed in last 4.

Not top 6? wtf
Lots of people thought Christian would get got in the finale, and this is only a week away. People have been saying for a while that they've been doing "finale edits" rather than "winner's edits," and this quote from the HR article that revots posted a few days ago confirms that they're trying to give "winner/finale edits" to more and more people.

Executive producer Matt Van Wagenen: "We do start every season with the intention of telling the complete story of every castaway. I've heard people talking about "winner's edits," but in recent seasons, we've actually tried to give "winner's edits" to as many players as possible."

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Originally Posted by Threepwood.au
Absolutely hate, hate, hate Nick creating a fake idol and then finding it himself in front of others. He had it set up so well with a half decent looking fake one, with a legitimate note, and completely butchered it.

Yes it may have got some to stop looking (evidently not well enough), but the target it created on him was so not worth it. When someone goes to play it and is subsequently voted it, when all the tea is spilled at FTC, that will look soooo much better then creating and finding your own fake one to stop people looking - when he didn't even find the idol in any case. The whole ploy ended up making him lose his real one!
This. If he just never even creates the fake idol, then Davie doesn't turn on him initially, and he's in a better position.

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Originally Posted by deucedeuces
I really like that Davie presumably didn't tell Nick about his idol and didn't mention anything about this being the only tribal he could play it when he used it. It got Nick to waste his idol after trying that terribly conceived fake idol play.
I'm not so sure about this. I think there's a decent chance that Davie did tell Nick about his idol, and that's part of why Nick and Mike split the votes.

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Originally Posted by King~of~Diamonds
I loved the episode though i dont like smoke and mirrors. Mike’s plan was well laid out for us. Honestly, everyone who considered not voting out Christian is idiotic.
We didnt need to see a ton of Christian in his boot, because we’ve seen his story unfold for two months. We already understand why he has to be eliminated. It was cool how they left things open-ended going into tribal council. If they showed us anymore of the plannong, there would be zero ambiguity.

The only other thing they couldve done is lay out the plan and then show Davie pondering saving Christian with his exploding idol. Im guessing Davie didnt even consider it
That's what I loved, that they showed so much of the planning, and yet there was still ambiguity. They literally showed Mike and Nick debating the order of who to boot between Christian and Davie, and showed Mike saying that Angelina, Kara, and Nick should vote out Christian, which they did. And yet, it was still possible for Davie to be the one eliminated last night, if he had misplayed his idol.

I think Davie did consider playing it for Christian, because he warned Christian the previous week. With Davie thinking that the plan is to vote out Alison, and for him, Christian, and Nick to stay together in order to keep Davids vs Goliaths at 3-3, he has to at least consider saving Christian, knowing that he's the likely other target for the Goliaths. But with so much shifting at the end, Davie might have gotten wind of Nick turning on him, and decided to play it safe (correctly, since he would probably have been eliminated if he saved Christian).
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12-13-2018 , 10:44 AM
it seems like whoever is left at the end between Davie and Alison will win. Nick had a really bad episode. I think misplaying his idol in front of the jury hurts his chances a lot

of course, Davie and Alison are also the biggest threats and should be the next on the chopping block. and could very easily both be voted out before FTC. should make for an interesting finale
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12-13-2018 , 10:45 AM
Christian needed either himself or Davie to win immunity. Was rooting for it, but as soon as they were both out I was pretty sure Christian was gone.

Christian was one of my favorite cast members ever but strategy-wise he didn't play that great. Voting out Carl when the Davids finally had the advantage was just a terrible move that I'm sure he'd like to have back.

Mike seems like a very smart player who makes the logical play. He is not motivated by emotion or who he finds annoying. He seems to be clearly angling for a F4 of himself and the other Goliaths.

I do in hindsight wish Davie had risked extending the idol one more TC. He will likely need to find another one or to win immunity to make final 5, unless they see Nick as the bigger threat.
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12-13-2018 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jcohen
I think she played that well actually. It was good how she subtly brought it up at TC to let the jurors know what happened, without sounding like she bragged about it. Plus she was right in knowing she didn’t need that immunity anyways. And it seemed like they legitimately needed rice. Obviously this won’t singlehandedly make the difference on whether a jury votes for her or not, but it is a nice tiny little resume builder. And it was smart of her to downplay it to the tribe — even if it’s obvious to us what she’s doing because of her confessionals, that doesn’t mean her tribemates see it the same way. Davie seemed pretty happy with her, and Carl too.
Tell me more about how Angelina has been subtle and downplaying her rice negotiation.
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12-13-2018 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
All the mike hate is lol. He wanted Christian gone and Christian is gone.

Mike obviously split votes and knew who the target was.
Are you sure all the Mike hate isn't somehow sexism as well?
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12-13-2018 , 10:51 AM
I think Nick goofing up the idol has diminished his threat level enough that it could help his chance of getting to the end. Now he can use that in his pitch. Davie probably the next target now

That has to be such a bad feeling though. A really high leverage mistake
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12-13-2018 , 11:05 AM
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Tell me more about how Angelina has been subtle and downplaying her rice negotiation.
lol sure, let’s judge her past by her future behavior. she was subtle about it in the original episode and survivor didn’t show a single tribemate of hers reacting negatively to it. I never said she would stay subtle about it
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12-13-2018 , 11:17 AM
Angelina will probably be good for some laughs when she brings up the rice - again - at FTC, on her way to zero votes and a 3rd place finish.
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12-13-2018 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
All the mike hate is lol. He wanted Christian gone and Christian is gone.

Mike obviously split votes and knew who the target was.
Agreed. If Mike doesn't plan the seed of doubt with Nick that Davie wants him out, Alison probably gets the boot.

That said, I'm still on Team Davie.
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12-13-2018 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Angelina will probably be good for some laughs when she brings up the rice - again - at FTC, on her way to zero votes and a 3rd place finish.
it’s almost guaranteed she brings up the rice at FTC. it’s like Stephen Fishbach says — everyone is the hero of their own story
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12-13-2018 , 11:34 AM
She really doesn't want to play that card though!!!
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12-13-2018 , 11:37 AM
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it’s almost guaranteed she brings up the rice every day of her life. it’s like Stephen Fishbach says — everyone is the hero of their own story
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12-13-2018 , 11:51 AM
I think Kara's playing the best game so far. Every round since the merge she has been in on the majority plan. She's not seen as a threat and she seems to be the person that everyone wants to include in their moves.
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12-13-2018 , 11:58 AM
It’s fun because at this point Angelina’s the only one drawing dead.
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12-13-2018 , 12:09 PM
Ang felt she had no shot at going on the reward and pulled out her great sacrifice as a hail mary
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12-13-2018 , 12:51 PM
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oh wow @ this...my favorite part of that and subsequent threads was male model (and rater of looks) BonafiedGreat(sp?) writing numerous posts on how he was an alternate/sub for Russell's 1st season
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