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11-16-2018 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by King~of~Diamonds
I'll take No +150
id take it if it included "got invited but refused"
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11-16-2018 , 11:39 PM
Man John was unlucky. It's crazy how he was more under the radar than Christian. But for the idol and Dan winning immunity he'd probably still be in the game. Exciting tribal but bummed about the result. Didn't want Angelina to go either also props to her for asking for the idol. She's for sure coming back.

Dan's fun tv also. He's making mistakes and he seems obnoxious but at least he's playing an aggressive game.

This is the best season in a long time, maybe Cagayan is the last season that was better ?
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11-17-2018 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by brianr
To those saying Alec is set up well - won’t it be obvious that a Goliath tipped off the Davids and he will be exposed?

Agree on this being a great season - I was so wrong about it a few weeks ago when my Natalie hate colored the entire show for me.
maybe, but they seemed pretty obvious about who they were targeting. it didn’t seem like they were really trying to hide it. and frankly they don’t have the votes anyways even if Alec was ‘exposed,’ so I’m not sure what good that would do them

it could hurt Alec in the long run especially if he makes FTC, perhaps
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11-17-2018 , 02:32 PM
Yeah I guess he could just flip and then have the numbers anyway.
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11-17-2018 , 02:59 PM
I wish we heard from Alison. i wonder if she's more in concert with Alec or with Mike.
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11-17-2018 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by hammtown
Possibly only Davie, Nick and Christian knew about Davie's idol therefore
It's possible, but I think if Christian knew, then Carl almost certainly knew.

Carl wouldn't need to know, but pulling a move like that without letting him know would make him feel like he's not as tight with Davie as he thought. So, it would be stupid to do that. Especially, since Carl is virtually a lock not to go blabbing about it to anyone.
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11-21-2018 , 09:57 PM
SICK
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11-21-2018 , 10:43 PM
Biggg
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11-21-2018 , 10:45 PM
that tribal was better than the last one

jesus what a great season
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11-21-2018 , 10:49 PM
Best. Season. Ever.
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11-21-2018 , 10:51 PM
There's gonna be another idol out there now too
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11-21-2018 , 10:58 PM
Perfect use of the vote steal to draw the idol out.

Not sure why Nick stole ALison's vote given the same result would have happened if he had stole Dan's but with less collateral given Dan's gone. Seems like he's damaged that relationship for no reason.
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11-21-2018 , 11:15 PM
Did they know Dan had an idol or just guess?
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11-21-2018 , 11:19 PM
I don't think so, but it didn't matter

6 votes plus the nullifier guaranteed his exit -- regardless of whether he had one or not, whether he used it or not, and who knew or didn't know about it
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11-22-2018 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Didace
Did they know Dan had an idol or just guess?
Kara probably told them and then told him to use it at tribal
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11-22-2018 , 01:11 AM
Wouldn't have mattered, all they had to do was use the nullifier on the same person that they all voted for. In conjunction with the vote steal it was an unbeatable plan.

I can't believe this season could possibly get any better, but chances are it will.
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11-22-2018 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by AussieJack
Kara probably told them and then told him to use it at tribal
I don't think that faction and the David's were on the same page completely, in fact it seemed to me like Alison told the others to flip there vote at tribal after her vote got stolen. Otherwise Nick wouldn't have used his advantage.

My guess is they just punted with the idol nullifier knowing that if someone had an idol it would be drawn out and that Dan given he had already found one was the most likely to have another.
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11-22-2018 , 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Bidz
that tribal was better than the last one

jesus what a great season
+1, go Davids.

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Originally Posted by Symbioticse
Perfect use of the vote steal to draw the idol out.

Not sure why Nick stole ALison's vote given the same result would have happened if he had stole Dan's but with less collateral given Dan's gone. Seems like he's damaged that relationship for no reason.
In the event that either the other Davids or the Goliaths thought Nick might have had a bond with Alison, I like the plan, if Nick wanted to feign distance from her. I assumed the vote steal would be used on Dan and then the idol nullifier would be used on him.
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11-22-2018 , 03:06 AM
loved that tribal council. on the other hand, sometimes it feels bad that we are so out of touch with what's happening simply because they want to keep the suspense going. guess i'll have to look up kara's vote to see if she flipped or not.
felt really bad for carl during the reward challenge. thought for sure he was getting some kind of advantage for being the unlucky one. maybe an idol clue or giving the winning team a chance to bring him if they let go of something else.

Last edited by KansasCT; 11-22-2018 at 03:15 AM.
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11-22-2018 , 06:48 AM
These people are all playing their asses off. Great season. Thought Davids did a great job of executing those moves, including at TC. Goliaths saw none of that coming.

At TC, when Dan asks Kara if he should play his idol she tells him to play it on himself. Karl is sitting right next to Dan and Kara (you can see him over Kara's shoulder). If he wasn't already going to use the idol I suspect he could hear them and that clinched it. Dan and Kara wouldn't necessarily care if he heard, as votes were already being cast and the David's wouldn't be able to change course. And of course, they had no idea there might be a nullifier.

I think Nick took Allison's vote to send her a message, as well as a misdirect on who the target was in case of an idol play. She has been reaching out to the Davids the most, but not actually being wiling to play. She's been the biggest tease, so to speak. Nick clearly won't play that game anymore.
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11-22-2018 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Symbioticse
Perfect use of the vote steal to draw the idol out.

Not sure why Nick stole ALison's vote given the same result would have happened if he had stole Dan's but with less collateral given Dan's gone. Seems like he's damaged that relationship for no reason.
Did the steal need to be used in that way or could Nick have gone up to make his vote and use it there in secret?

If it was used this way to draw out the idol, it was pretty pointless....EXCEPT for now everyone knows an idol is gone, thus likely to be another one hidden. If Dan didn't play his idol and went home with it in his pocket, then only those who knew he had an idol would know there's likely a new one hidden.
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11-22-2018 , 10:08 AM
Now that it's 5-5, if D v G stays aligned vs each, Christian is unlikely to be the G vote choice because he's the obvious choice and most likely to be the one an idol is used for.
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11-22-2018 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by housenuts
Now that it's 5-5, if D v G stays aligned vs each, Christian is unlikely to be the G vote choice because he's the obvious choice and most likely to be the one an idol is used for.
Given that several goliaths flipped and voted Angelina, it seems unlikely that goliaths will stay together now. To put it mildly, she doesn't seem like the type to say "oh well just part of the game, let's go back to working together".

Still also unsure why they stole Alison's vote - if she's one of the swing people they might want to work with, they made it abundantly clear they didn't trust her by stealing it. Their plan was foolproof to get Dan out, so they really actually cost themselves the chance to see Alison's vote and whether or not she was going to go with them.

They could steal Dan, but what's the point of angering someone who is about to hit the jury? I'd have gone for Angelina's vote, knowing Dan is about to go, and wanting Angelina to go full unstable for the next 3 days until she's so hated that she's voted off unanimously just so people don't have to deal with her.

Poor Mike must be sitting at home watching this and just dying. He came in as this superfan who was gonna make moves and stuff, and now he has to watch himself playing a season1 game trying to keep a crumbling alliance together for the numbers while advantages, idols, and flips are happening all around him in a whirlwind. He's got no clue what's really going on in the game.
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11-22-2018 , 11:13 AM
Cancel alison’s vote in case the goliaths have two idols. They can potentially flush both
They know alison is close with mike, kara and alec
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11-22-2018 , 11:40 AM
That extra vote sure would be nice at 5-5 - but I guess they had to use it to maximize the odds of Dan using the idol.
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