It's out of her and Alexis Maxwell

Jess the virgin has a badonk also

ali most surprising hottie from pre-island photos to island-hotness

Jesus. What an IG feed. Never even noticed her on the island.

LOL at 'hustlers'. Bell hops, 'diversity advocates' and celebrity secretary? Where's Hawt Pussay and her man Bone Money? Where's f***ing Johnny ADHD the online MTTer grinding 15 tables 15 hours a day?

Big shocker Team Losers end up rowing their boat backwards and blowing every challenge.

You can't seriously be surprised. For Probst, Survivor has become a different kind of social experiment, one where different categories of people compete to prove which category is better. Obviously he wants a healer or a hero to win, so that unselfishness is shown to be better than selfishness. The Hustler tribe was engineered to be inferior.

Just watched the most recent episode.

Why do players even after 35 bloody seasons not realize that flying under the radar until the merge is the best and only strategy. Don't create waves, get along and have a small alliance. Don't worry about idols or being confrontational or weird with anyone.

Starting to change my mind about possible front runners.

They specifically cast people who are unable to do that. A season full of people playing GTO Survivor would be terribly boring.

Also keep in mind that most insiders say that there is a very strong meta-game where the producers manipulate the game such that people they think are entertaining get advantages, so being as boring as possible would not be a winning strategy.

Also keep in mind they they can edit footage to make almost anyone look like anything. Someone who appears to be flying under the radar might have an incredibly advanced social game that we're not seeing. Something that appears to be a major social incident might really be insignificant. They can turn ten seconds of rest into a narrative that someone is lazy and useless around camp.

Yup. Just in the first episode of this season, they made it seem like Chrissy and Katrina were allied, when it was in fact the opposite, and Chrissy was pushing to get Katrina out.

It just has to be so different once out there compared to watching it on TV, sort of a variant of the Mike Tyson "everyone has a game plan until they get punched in the face" quote. One can see the huge difference in the fans vs favorite seasons that being out there the first time has on a lot of these guys.

With that said, Patrick looked like Archie, smiled creepily like Reggie and had a lot of Big Moose in his thought process.

Not an exciting season so far in my opinion, with the biggest surprise being how the editors got me last week, but hopefully some of these players will start to be a bit better to watch.

I don't even know all the survivors yet and they're switching it up on me

Nice episode, I still think Joe is way too aggro/abrasive to ever win, but his reads tonight were on point. He's definitely gonna be entertaining at the very least.

i have to say, it seems a little unfair to let him say hes playing it and then walk up to jeff and hand it to him before reevaluating. its like a slowroll. so it shouldnt be too hard to read someone on a 5050 when they're getting slowrolled

its funny because for how bad and crazy alan was with his first tribe, he was actually perfectly fine with this one and got screwed. i dont really like the high variance with a tribe swap, short tribes, and a secret advantage last second, although of course i get why they do it for the random. its such a crapshoot though. hopefully they switch to 2 tribes soon

Joe is Tony Lite when it comes to playing the game, but I agree he's pretty entertaining

Yea what's the point of having a theme if you're going to break it apart after 3 tribals

Was quite a tribal as it appears Joe and Desi targeted Alan just in case an idol was played for Ashley. Even if the votes were on Desi both healers would have been immune and Devon and Ashley would have gone to rocks. Would Desi have been willing to go to rocks if Joe had figured he was safe without playing the idol, or would she flipped on him on the revote?

Was Jessica's decision the correct one to cancel Devon's vote, or was she better off canceling Alan or Ashley and hope that Devon sides with the healers?

They do this literally every season. It's so stupid. I think a couple of times, they did it after two episodes. I think Ashley's best play now is to be super grateful (and honestly so) to them, letting them know that she'd wanted Allan out anyway. In fact, I was thinking it might've been in her best interest to have made him the target right after the tribal swap. It would've built trust with the rest of them and taken the target off her for being perceived as being a twosome with Allan that had to be broken up. Before doing that, I'd talk with Devon to let him know the plan to make sure that if this all goes through, that I'm tight with him in case they go again and are facing a 2-2. Even better might be to feel out Desi to see if she's be open to getting rid of Tony Lite on the next go around.

What reads? He made one read when he pushed his chips half way into the pot and then assessed reactions. What else did he do? He's a clown.

The theme was pretty meh, even from a marketing perspective, and I would imagine all the early bouncing around is to help prevent 4-6 episodes of Pagonging in a row, which is pretty much the nut low in terms of entertainment.

Definitely makes the early game more chaotic, and selectively unfair (even though technically it is fair as it is not done to hurt/help specific people beforehand), but that is likely a byproduct of the game progressing over the years as well.

I guess I would be curious what others think would be a more effective approach for the first 6-8 weeks of the game which would also avoid the fun of watching 5 episodes in a row where everyone knows how the vote will go.

The theme is just a hook for the viewers. I'm pretty sure they cast the players first, then develop the theme second.

Lots to like about the episode, although in fairness much of that likely was due to the snoozefests we'd seen so far this season. Tony-lite for Joe does seem like a good call. Liking Lauren's chances for some reason.

Definitely this.

Maybe, depending on the theme. I am guessing the theme/concept was decided beforehand on years like the one where they had people from different races, or the recent Gen X vs Millennials, and then they cast accordingly (this year there are only 3ish Gen Xers in the cast, with the fisherwoman being a borderline one at 35 years old, and the oldest cast member is just 46 years old).

Not really that much of a difference. The theme this year was not that particularly interesting anyway.

If Joe didn't play the idol, then it would have been 2-2 Joe and Alan. If it stayed tied on the revote, then Joe and Alan would be safe, and Devon, Ashley, and Desi would draw rocks.

Desi seems rational, and a 1/3 random chance of elimination is huge, so I imagine that she would flip. However, Ashley should also be thinking the same thing, and has more incentive to flip, since she has previous beef with Alan.

That would be funny if they both flipped and it remained a tie. I imagine that they should probably talk it out at tribal, even if the producers would rarely show such a thing.

I might have missed something, but based on my understanding of how it went, I think Jessica's decision was bad. She wants Desi and Joe to stay. It is likely that Devon is the swing vote between the 2 healers vs the 2 heroes. Without other info, Devon is roughly 50-50 to go either way, but the heroes are likely to vote against the healers.

If she blocks one of the heroes, then it is roughly 50-50 that Devon would side with the healers and vote out a hero, or that Devon would side with the heroes, in which case it is 2-2. But on a revote, Devon would have less loyalty and be more likely to flip. So it is more likely that she helps her side if she blocks one of the heroes.

By blocking Devon, she simply ensures a 2-2 vote, with equal likelihood of somebody flipping, which does not help her side.

Cliffs: Jessica could have helped her side, and didn't. She played bad.