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Old 11-19-2010, 06:35 PM   #3401
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Re: Survivor: Nicaragua

this thread is full blown AIDS between the gifs, jpgs, and the regulars
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Old 11-19-2010, 06:38 PM   #3402
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is anyone else getting tired of re-hashing s19 and s20 arguments for the 84th time? it's becoming really annoying to continue following this thread every week when so much of the conversation is kk/clovis/boc/kos/etc insulting/bashing each other and re-hashing the same tired arguments where no one's opinion ever changes.

the last time i made this point (probably about 5-6 weeks ago), people said it was fine because nothing was going on in the season, but i think that's different now. there's clearly more going on now in s21, there's a lot to discuss, and i personally would like to keep this thread on point.

agree/disagree? i'll shut up about it for the rest of the season if everyone else wants this thread to continue as is.
I totally agree the bashing is absurd, especially in light of the fact that Kos has blocked Boc and me. I really will try to curb it, despite how good it feels.

I don't think adhering to a regimented topic is all that necessary. While no one budges on the actual topic of Russell, I think discussing the his strategy and the strategies of his foils are pretty useful. Love him or hate him, Russell has fundamentally changed the game. Discussion of his game will have bearing on every season from here on out.

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Old 11-19-2010, 07:34 PM   #3403
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You're on a poker forum and yet still being this results-oriented? Her game pre-F3 was almost identical to that of Mick or Jaison (who played a better game than she did imo). Replace her with most other UTR females in Survivor history and the result is probably the same. Replace Russell with almost anybody else, and she's unlikely to make the F3.

vyk: I know it's annoying. If this were a Survivor forum everyone would be eager for a Russell Hantz containment thread.
Could just be her gameplay was specifically entailed for that season. With that, you can't just compare her to any other UTR female. Can you compare her to Purple Kelly? No, because there isn't someone as dominant as Russell this season. I think we're agreeing on this, but how do you know her game doesn't change if Russell isn't on S19?
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Old 11-19-2010, 07:50 PM   #3404
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Re: Survivor: Nicaragua

im rewatching the episodes now. fabio was the first confessional we see then jimmy johnson. just interesting to note. first tribal council when jeff asks who feels concerned about the vote tonight. all the woman - jill. dan and jimmy johnson raise there hands. then holly tells jeff about her alliance with wendy. the chatterbox goes off.

wendy jo you gotta go.
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Old 11-19-2010, 08:01 PM   #3405
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second episode sash and naonka talk for first time. sash says brenda is smart and could be a asset. naonka says she really likes sash. so i guess that is probably a real alliance moving foward. that is pretty strong alliance of 2 with 2 idols.
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Old 11-19-2010, 08:04 PM   #3406
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Re: Survivor: Nicaragua

holly sees jill eating some food. decides the food is bad and throws it away. dan says is she crazy? holly decides she needs to release anger towards him by putting dirt in his shoes and putting them in the water. she says "payback". feels bad about it so tells him later. debates quitting the game but a pep talk with jimmy johnson keeps her in to fight. they win immunity so she lives to fight another day
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Old 11-19-2010, 08:10 PM   #3407
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Re: Survivor: Nicaragua

Oooh, play by play of the early eps, thanks VM ;-)

Something that dawned on me today. Yve's quote in episode 1 about the medallion of power: "Don't winners wear gold?" It could easily be misdirection, but it also could refer to Fabio's bright yellow shirt that he's worn all season.
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Old 11-19-2010, 08:21 PM   #3408
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Re: Survivor: Nicaragua

fabio and shannon want to take out naonka. but alina and kelly b decide thats too easy and want to take out brenda. chase sides with brenda and shannon goes home. that vote finished a few peoples game.
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Old 11-19-2010, 08:38 PM   #3409
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Re: Survivor: Nicaragua

naonka also stole fabios socks this episode.
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Old 11-20-2010, 12:11 AM   #3410
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I love you, Soncy, but I'm sure you understand why Russell's game is significantly different from the one NaOnka is currently playing. I won't open up this can of worms again simply because I think it's a waste of both of our time to even discuss it.

That doesn't mean he got outplayed, and I think you realize this.
I was sort of making a joke with both comments, but only sort of. I had refrenced the Russell = Naonka argument because it completely applied to the sentence which preceeded it. But yeah, I agree there's a difference.

The second one was also a joke...sort of. I think you may underestimate my disdain for a style of play which ensures that you can't win a jury vote. If he had picked some end game opponents that gave him his best shot it would be better, but he didn't even do that. Russell didn't get outplayed in moving himself forward in the game. For sure. If the game worked where you get points every time you decide who gets voted off, and every time you successfully play an idol, every time you find and idol, every time you pull in a new ally, etc. then Russell's game was a superfabulous second to none. But since the winner is decided by the whim of the other players, I'd like at least a little effort in maybe figuring out what is important to them and trying to appeal to them on their level. Fishbach's article had a good bit on that.
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Old 11-20-2010, 12:56 AM   #3411
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Re: Survivor: Nicaragua

This is an actual quote from Fabio's secret scene: "I'm not just going to sit back and let other people make all the decisions. I feel like next time I am gonna step up and say, 'who is really going home, guys?' I'm gonna talk to Brenda, Purple Kelly, you know whoever is gonna have the numbers. I'm gonna say who do we want to go home. Who do we want to bring in or who do we want. You know, somebody does have to take control of this game."

I'm not sure Fabio understands the difference between sitting back and taking control. But for sure this guy's methods are the kind of methods that are classically supported in 2+2. I give him some credit for realizing that it might be dangerous to step up at this time as people seem to be looking to lop off the heads of the leadership...I didn't make this up, Boc, he said it later in the confessional.
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Old 11-20-2010, 01:31 AM   #3412
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boc, i feel honored that you used the benry avatar I made

the more benry avatars, the merrier
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Old 11-20-2010, 01:40 AM   #3413
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This is an actual quote from Fabio's secret scene: "I'm not just going to sit back and let other people make all the decisions. I feel like next time I am gonna step up and say, 'who is really going home, guys?' I'm gonna talk to Brenda, Purple Kelly, you know whoever is gonna have the numbers. I'm gonna say who do we want to go home. Who do we want to bring in or who do we want. You know, somebody does have to take control of this game."

I'm not sure Fabio understands the difference between sitting back and taking control. But for sure this guy's methods are the kind of methods that are classically supported in 2+2. I give him some credit for realizing that it might be dangerous to step up at this time as people seem to be looking to lop off the heads of the leadership...I didn't make this up, Boc, he said it later in the confessional.
I can never tell if you are serious when you say that...
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Old 11-20-2010, 01:40 AM   #3414
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Re: Survivor: Nicaragua

hey guys, long time lurker, first time poster ITT

i'm thinking about picking up a benry avatar if you guys have any suggestions (my arod avatar is a little grainy)
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Old 11-20-2010, 01:43 AM   #3415
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hey guys, long time lurker, first time poster ITT

i'm thinking about picking up a benry avatar if you guys have any suggestions (my arod avatar is a little grainy)
I don't think anyone claimed this one yet



it's of him during Alina's last TC when he says:

"100% grade A, dirt squirrel"
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Old 11-20-2010, 01:48 AM   #3416
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is anyone else getting tired of re-hashing s19 and s20 arguments for the 84th time? it's becoming really annoying to continue following this thread every week when so much of the conversation is kk/clovis/boc/kos/etc insulting/bashing each other and re-hashing the same tired arguments where no one's opinion ever changes.
great post duke

I think this gif just about sums up the back and forth opinionated circle jerk ITT

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Old 11-20-2010, 01:48 AM   #3417
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I can never tell if you are serious when you say that...
I'm generally only about halfway serious about anything. But I know you are rooting for someone to snap up the dirt squirrel Benry avatar if that helps you figure out if I was serious about the other.
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Old 11-20-2010, 02:01 AM   #3418
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I'm generally only about halfway serious about anything. But I know you are rooting for someone to snap up the dirt squirrel Benry avatar if that helps you figure out if I was serious about the other.
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Old 11-20-2010, 05:58 AM   #3419
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It's only being results oriented if you ignore the first 2 parts of what I said where I discuss her plan and process.

Kos, how do you like living in your imaginationland?
having a plan and having it succeed doesnt mean it was a good plan or that you played it well...

If you dont understand why, you dont know what NOT being result-oriented is so it is futile to discuss .
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Old 11-20-2010, 06:13 AM   #3420
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Here is a nice country playlist of 2+2's favorite emotional puppy dog

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Old 11-20-2010, 06:15 AM   #3421
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having a plan and having it succeed doesnt mean it was a good plan or that you played it well...

If you dont understand why, you dont know what NOT being result-oriented is so it is futile to discuss .
Well you got 2 out of 3. We are getting closer, boys!
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Old 11-20-2010, 06:27 AM   #3422
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Re: Survivor: Nicaragua

to the people itt who make avatars i have a request if one of you can do it:
http://www.youtube.com/user/stentily...11/sJbKWzlLs6U

let me see what 6:59-7:00 looks like (just colby's "whooooooooo") then let me see what 6:59-7:01 looks like (colby's reaction+jerry's "wow")

thanks

edit: within the same link can i also get 7:28-7:38...thanks
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Old 11-20-2010, 06:43 AM   #3423
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Here is a nice country playlist of 2+2's favorite emotional puppy dog

Here's video of him being awkwardly attracted to another girl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehJ5ZL6_M_o

She was on American Idol this year but was axed early. Her American Boy cover is really good.
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Old 11-20-2010, 09:04 AM   #3424
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to the people itt who make avatars i have a request if one of you can do it:
http://www.youtube.com/user/stentily...11/sJbKWzlLs6U

let me see what 6:59-7:00 looks like (just colby's "whooooooooo") then let me see what 6:59-7:01 looks like (colby's reaction+jerry's "wow")

thanks

edit: within the same link can i also get 7:28-7:38...thanks
colby's "whooooo"



jerri's reaction to colby



coach's roar



all gifs extracted from HD quality S20 footage and have been cropped to fit the size limit (colby+jerri combined was too long)

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Old 11-20-2010, 03:03 PM   #3425
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Re: Survivor: Nicaragua

Started to get back into this season after losing interest at the start, and finally caught up. Oh dear. The fact that Kelly didn't vote with any alliance just shows how awful everyone is playing. I don't care how dumb she is, everyone needs as many allies as they can get in this game, nobody is ever comfortable enough that they can waste an available vote like that.

I suppose it will be vaguely interesting to see how it plays out now, but please bring on the next all-star season ASAP
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