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Old 11-17-2010, 10:13 PM   #3226
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Re: Survivor: Nicaragua

so if sash gives brenda the idol. she plays it. naonka sees it, plays hers. random kelly purple vote sends benry home?
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:19 PM   #3227
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I guess Brenda literally did not try and rally any votes since she probably could have gotten Kelly P to vote for Jeff.

Kelly P is like #2 in LOL Rankings.
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:20 PM   #3228
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so i guess brenda told kelly purple to vote benry then. she did kno nay had the idol. i wonder who knows she has it now then.
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:20 PM   #3229
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I have no idea how to rank people now. I might have to start my way at the bottom and work up. The men should probably align with each other and try to take out the women. But maybe Dan feels most comfortable with his old ladies. And maybe Chase tries to weasel back in there with the women now that Brenda is gone. If I'm Benry, Chase, and Fabio I would certainly be concerned that if I go along with a plan to get rid of any of that number, I might very well be the next target. But I can't get caught up with what I'd be thinking. What are these people thinking is the question.
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:21 PM   #3230
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Ummm they all said brenda then sash.
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^ Try to keep up, Kos. I think it was Holly, Jane, but maybe Naonka was in there too. Something along the lines of: "Brenda and Sash are running this game. We have to get rid of Brenda, then Sash." Why you don't blindside the guy with the idol first I'm not sure???
You guys are missing the point. What we saw tonight wasn't one giant alliance ousting Brenda, it was two opposing alliances randomly coming together. They aren't aligned, though, and NaOnka and Chase still appear to be with Sash way more than anyone else. Who is Benry with? Fabio and maybe Dan? They aren't "with" Holly and Jane. Purple Kelly is apparently on her own, which is good for Sash. I think you guys are wayyy off if you assume everyone who voted for Brenda is aligned because of it.
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:24 PM   #3231
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Re: Survivor: Nicaragua

All I know is I'm finally starting to get interested in this season, glad to see Brenda gone, and gonna be fun watching how the rest play out, even if it won't be high level survivor.
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:24 PM   #3232
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Is Naonka going to pull off a mask at FTC and be Tom Cruise under there?
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:25 PM   #3233
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Re: Survivor: Nicaragua

also i like naonka much more after this episode and hate jane even more.
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:27 PM   #3234
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You guys are missing the point. What we saw tonight wasn't one giant alliance ousting Brenda, it was two opposing alliances randomly coming together. They aren't aligned, though, and NaOnka and Chase still appear to be with Sash way more than anyone else. Who is Benry with? Fabio and maybe Dan? They aren't "with" Holly and Jane. Purple Kelly is apparently on her own, which is good for Sash. I think you guys are wayyy off if you assume everyone who voted for Brenda is aligned because of it.
I was merely refuting your claim that Sash's name was not mentioned during the episode as a potential target. I know the alliances are all over the place and that Sash might be able to find a crack. It's why I don't know how to rank.
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:27 PM   #3235
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Jane is pretty unbearable for me. Then Naonka and Chase follows.

Rooting for Fabio and Benri
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:40 PM   #3236
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I think this was bad timing for Naonka, Sash & Chase. I feel like they all should have stuck with Brenda to clear out some of the other dead weight, and then taken her out @ F5. I know she's dangerous, but she's also a handy distraction (especially for Sash).

If Na was going to turn on her, she should have held out until she was in trouble herself, not done it when she was comfortable.
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:47 PM   #3237
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yeah na just has fancy play syndrome
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:48 PM   #3238
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I think this was bad timing for Naonka, Sash & Chase. I feel like they all should have stuck with Brenda to clear out some of the other dead weight, and then taken her out @ F5. I know she's dangerous, but she's also a handy distraction (especially for Sash).

If Na was going to turn on her, she should have held out until she was in trouble herself, not done it when she was comfortable.
Naonka is in pretty terrible spot regardless. If she goes to the finals with Sash, Chase, or Brenda she'll lose so she needs to find someone more worthless than her(Dan?).

Overall probably the most entertaining episode yet. Holly really impressed me. She came up with the plan and somehow completely avoided the detection from Sash, Brenda, and Chase. She actually has been floating really good and made a subtle power move at the perfect time.

Saying it was too early to do this was ridiculous. Naonka could've changed her mind in an instant so it was important to take out one of Sash/Brenda while she was on board. Disregard this paragraph, I'm an idiot.
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:52 PM   #3239
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Give me some critique on my top five beore I make it official:

5. Benry - I still think he will be a target soon. People are going to fear his athleticism.
4. Fabio - He's very likable, also a potential target. He is playing a pretty good UTR floater type game, so it's understandable why he is so popular ITT because that is generally a highly respected method.
3. Jane - I'm not sure who is really with her and Holly. Kelly probably could be if they bothered to scoop her up. They might be able to re-bag Chase. Is Dan with or against them? If she makes it through a few more tribals, she might be able to go on an immunity run.
2. Sash - He has an idol. He should be able to realign. It seems like his best move might be to rally the men, but I'm just not sure how much clout he has anymore. It's also possible that he, Naonka, Kelly, and Chase could use an immunity idol to take someone out next week and the one following.
1. Holly - If she has a real alliance, she's probably in a pretty decent spot. I'm just not sure she has enough soldiers she can count on. Plus the counter-alliance is still battling two immunity idols.
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:53 PM   #3240
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You guys are missing the point. What we saw tonight wasn't one giant alliance ousting Brenda, it was two opposing alliances randomly coming together. They aren't aligned, though, and NaOnka and Chase still appear to be with Sash way more than anyone else. Who is Benry with? Fabio and maybe Dan? They aren't "with" Holly and Jane. Purple Kelly is apparently on her own, which is good for Sash. I think you guys are wayyy off if you assume everyone who voted for Brenda is aligned because of it.
I don't think they are necessarily aligned, but he still very much has a target on his back.

I still think letting brenda go was best though.
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:55 PM   #3241
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1. Sash - shows a willingness to make the right moves even if they're not aligned with what he previously thought. Unlike Brenda, he has working relationships with some people. And he has the idol.
2. Fabio - No one is mentioning him. REPEAT! No one is mentioning him!
3. Dan - Isn't pissing anyone off or scrambling which is saying alot imo.
4. Holly - Has actually started playing the game. And although she appears frightful, she actually does a decent job of convincing people.
5. NaOnka - Is certifiably insane. But she might just skirt by Dr. Will style because they can "get her at any time".
6. Jane - Loses spots because of her immunity challenge acumen.
7. Benry - May have ruffled too many feathers with his supposed antics.
8. Chase - Is the next logical choice for this new voting group.
9. KeLOLy P - KeLOLOLOLOLy P.
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:56 PM   #3242
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I think this was bad timing for Naonka, Sash & Chase. I feel like they all should have stuck with Brenda to clear out some of the other dead weight, and then taken her out @ F5. I know she's dangerous, but she's also a handy distraction (especially for Sash).

If Na was going to turn on her, she should have held out until she was in trouble herself, not done it when she was comfortable.
Naonka is a loon. I mean, what can we really expect here. Sash and Brenda were probably both wanting to go to the end with someone and Naonka. They also had Chase and Kelly on the hook as expendable minions. That's solid numbers, and she just randomly does something in the best interests of the rest of the tribe. Maybe she is trying to make up for stealing everyone's food.
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:02 PM   #3243
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Naonka is in pretty terrible spot regardless. If she goes to the finals with Sash, Chase, or Brenda she'll lose so she needs to find someone more worthless than her(Dan?).

Overall probably the most entertaining episode yet. Holly really impressed me. She came up with the plan and somehow completely avoided the detection from Sash, Brenda, and Chase. She actually has been floating really good and made a subtle power move at the perfect time.

Saying it was too early to do this was ridiculous. Naonka could've changed her mind in an instant so it was important to take out one of Sash/Brenda while she was on board. Disregard this paragraph, I'm an idiot.
For sure Naonka is in a bad spot so why the heck not move forward with your friends? It's like Russell screwing Parv/Danielle out of the win all over. There is no one more worthless than her. Some people actually like Dan.

I think Chase knows about Holly, there was just nothing he could do about it.
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:09 PM   #3244
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Sick spoiler in the previews. The editors on this show seem to be getting worse and worse.

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Old 11-17-2010, 11:12 PM   #3245
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Best episode of the season by far. Love pretty much everyone but Dan, Kelly, and Chase showing they have serious game.

I was a big Brenda fan, but this just made the season so much better. Glad I was right about Holly, I was slightly worried my read on her was off, but she's a serious player. She's been my pick to win for a while now and I am sticking to it.

So excited for next week!
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:17 PM   #3246
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hollys not winning. she made one good move. shes played a fine utr strategy. but we all know shes got a lot of crazy brewing in her. one good move doesnt make you a good player. she still doesnt have any real alliances. getting rid of brenda was just a clear move for most people.
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:20 PM   #3247
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hollys not winning. she made one good move. shes played a fine utr strategy. but we all know shes got a lot of crazy brewing in her. one good move doesnt make you a good player. she still doesnt have any real alliances. getting rid of brenda was just a clear move for most people.
You are not giving Holly nearly enough credit. She's had more than 1 good play. Her insta-flip at the tribe swap was a great play. You don't just get the ringleader out by a fluke. She positioned herself to make this move all along. From what we've seen she's played the best game of the season, and for my money I don't even think it's close.

You are the one who is putting too much weight on 1 bad/crazy play. Everything post shoe-drowning has been great from her.
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:26 PM   #3248
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You are not giving Holly nearly enough credit. She's had more than 1 good play. Her insta-flip at the tribe swap was a great play. You don't just get the ringleader out by a fluke. She positioned herself to make this move all along. From what we've seen she's played the best game of the season, and for my money I don't even think it's close.

You are the one who is putting too much weight on 1 bad/crazy play. Everything post shoe-drowning has been great from her.
she also threw away food. then they made fun of her. then she drown the shoes. she snap switched because it was her only play. she and jane were next on chopping block to marty and jill. her plays have really just been handed to her. you are just getting behind her because shes just the type of person you root for. under the radar woman who happen to make the right moves. no one could have played the best game of a season having drown some shoes. im sure this will come back and bite her
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:27 PM   #3249
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rewatch episode 2 or whatever then tell me shes some strategy mastermind. its just absurd. i was behind her before. saying shes made a great turn around from a awful move. but making a obvious tribe switch and then taking out a ringleader when everyone is behind it(even naonka one of her closest allies). doesnt make her the genius you are trying to make her out to be
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:28 PM   #3250
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No way I'd of said this in the beginning of the show but right now I'd actually like to see Jane win at the end.
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