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03-10-2011 , 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mlagoo
Oh man watching Judd freak out at TC is pretty fun. Still pre-merge now, hope he sticks around so I get to watch more TC hijinks.
Judd is simply priceless.
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03-10-2011 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mlagoo
Oh man watching Judd freak out at TC is pretty fun. Still pre-merge now, hope he sticks around so I get to watch more TC hijinks.
Between Judd freaking all the time and the awesome of the BobbyJon/Jamie feud, Guatemala had some solid lolz
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03-10-2011 , 07:35 PM
i gotta watch Guatemala for sure next... The only ones i havent seen are the ones inbetween AS and FvF, except Palau, China and Fiji
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03-10-2011 , 08:51 PM
Cook Islands is a weird season, but I think is worth watching. Without giving anything away, it has:

1. Perhaps the most off the wall contestant in that span
2. Perhaps the two most dominant performances in that span (I'd be willing to say all time, but I have not seen some early seasons)
3. Perhaps the best "wtf" moment during an initial TC (which has now been rivaled by Phillips meltdown)
4. The initial version of perhaps the most transformed player over repeat seasons in Parv. She goes from CI to absolutely crushing FvF and HvV. When I rewatched CI I couldn't believe that girl turned into what she did.


With all those going for it, it's still a pretty predictable season (Although I will admit that the final vote was absurdly close, and I thought the person in 2nd would win) without a ton of memorable moments. But it's got a mildly interesting twist to start, a more important twist during the game that ends up sticking around - albeit altered - until present day, and an absolute clinic put on over multiple aspects of the game.

I'd watch it soon too if I were you
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03-10-2011 , 09:01 PM
+1, episode 11 of CI is one of the greatest of all time imo
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03-10-2011 , 09:45 PM
Danni gotta be in the conversation for best Survivor bodies.
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03-10-2011 , 09:52 PM
No doubt. She's way up there in terms of overall looks, too.
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03-10-2011 , 10:10 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Cook Island was one of the worst seasons? The challenges were great, but outside of that, what a dud.
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03-10-2011 , 10:11 PM
If you're not looking at her face, then yeah.

Best part of Guatemala was Cindy's ass shot in the opening credits.
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03-10-2011 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by kartinken
Am I the only one who thinks Cook Island was one of the worst seasons? The challenges were great, but outside of that, what a dud.
Eh, it's one of my favorite non-returning player ones. I'd prolly list em in no particular order of Tocantins, China, CI, and Samoa.


If you haven't watched, don't open tag

Spoiler:
1. Cao Boi was so random and entertaining.
2. Yul was so dominant in the strategy and social aspects of the game that during the episode where Adam goes home, he tries to convince Yul's alliance to go ahead and vote for Yul to get his idol gone and then they can vote for him, just so they all could have a level playing field. They refused. That's the single most impressive aspect of that season - and perhaps the most dominant game (with a little absurd idol rules help) in Survivor history.
3. Billy Garcia's opening tribal council chat about Candice was so looooool
4. Ozzy went into Colby v1 mode and then some in challenges.


There were not a ton of lol moments like in other seasons, nor was there a lot of drama or aggressive play. But Yul's and Ozzy's play in Strategy/Social and Challenges respectively were just so near perfect that it's enjoyable to me
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03-11-2011 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by SavageTilt
If you're not looking at her face, then yeah.

Best part of Guatemala was Cindy's ass shot in the opening credits.
i rooted for Cindy that season and had no real reason why, was unsure even as i was doing it, but i think you just nailed it for me.
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03-11-2011 , 01:59 AM
I literally just finished watching Fiji so it's nice to see some recent chat about it.

Yau-man def one of the best players ever imo. He's very smart, plays the social game really well, reads people/situations well, outperformed everybody in challenges (while being underestimated), and was so generous, happy-go-lucky, and non-threatening. He for sure wins for best player that season, unfortunately not the winner though. He, like Earl, didn't have any enemies and the only reason people ever wrote down his name was to vote him off because he was too powerful.

Which leads into Earl, which I'm very happy he won. He and Yau were so great together because they were both just jovial, genuine guys that performed very well while keeping good ties with everybody. Sure Earl didn't do any GOAT big-time moves, and he may not have specifically chosen to align with Yau, but he and Yau getting along as best buds really worked out well and was a great plan for each of them since they both had a solid partnership to offer.

Earl also spoke very well and with great tact for the entire season. You could argue that he should have been pushing Dreamz harder to reneg, but Earl really is that genuine of a guy, and that's part of the greatness of the Earl+Yau combo. Neither person ever said it, but you could tell that those two were just the most stand-up and genuine guys out there, and they trusted eachother 100% (except for the obv F4 decision, but I think Yau understood and Earl would understand as well if the situations were reversed)

Dreamz impressed me as well. Normally I just eyeroll when the stereotypical poor black guy that grew up on the streets is making big fusses about race/being white like he did in the very beginning. Not going to lie, I started out thinking he was a bit of a joke. But Dreamz did a great job at manipulating the conversations, especially at tribals. He did a great job at slyly pushing his own agenda while not looking slimy or desperate.

Unfortunately Dreamz was a bit nearsighted and hastily agreed to Yau's offer which may have been appealing at the time, but once it came to F4, it sealed his fate with a lose-lose situation. There was no way that he was going to stick around if he gave immunity up to Yau, but also no way he was going to win after scumbagging up the deal.

And totally agree that Alex was underrated. He seemed like a super crafty and smart guy. When he read the situation correctly and voted Mooki to save himself, I was pretty happy to see someone with foresight. On the other hand, it was pretty stupid for him and Mooki to stick together laughing at everyone else on the 2-passenger sinking ship. I did a super cringe when they were giving Yau an ultimatum about the HII like it was some game-changing event. But I guess when you're backed into a corner you'll do dumb stuff (which Yau played that situation down perfectly and made them look far worse). Also once Alex survived that vote with Mooki and they were at F7, he seemed to really pitch himself as the F7 swing vote sooo poorly. He was trying to put all the wrong people against eachother and he really came across as some sneaky evil guy just trying to stir the pot rather than the crucial F7 swing vote. Seriously, how do you not approach the weakest 3 people and say, "look, this is what's going to happen if you vote me out, or..." He tried, but not very well imo.

The entire FTC was pretty lol. Like everyone on the jury minus Yau was PISSED when asking questions. Like, such bitterness and animosity that I've never seen at a FTC before. Especially the one chubby white chick, who I can't remember her name. She didn't even have her heart in the game and was even fine with quitting at one point, and then she got up there and asked the most non-sense questions in the bitchiest way. Made me lol. good TV.

And it seems like some posters were speculating what would happen with Yau at a F3 instead of Dreamz, and obv this isn't definitive, but at the reunion Jeff asked who the jury would have voted for, and 6 said Yau.

In before tl;dr
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03-11-2011 , 05:23 AM
Oh wow, the car twist in Guatemala was pretty cool. What an impossible decision. I kinda feel like to the same extent people are going to be like "Oh that was sweet of her to hook me up with that car, I shouldn't vote her out," they're also going to say "If she makes it to the end, she gave three people on the jury cars, we should probably vote her out." Plus then you don't have a car. Bummer of a spot to be in though. I like the twist.

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03-11-2011 , 03:40 PM
Really impressive set they constructed for the maze at F4IC of Guatemala too.
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03-11-2011 , 04:29 PM
Yeah the F4 IC of Guatemala is one of the coolest. The F3 one is the absolutely most unfair awful pos IC they've ever done
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03-11-2011 , 04:31 PM
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Yeah the F4 IC of Guatemala is one of the coolest. The F3 one is the absolutely most unfair awful pos IC they've ever done
Agreed, just saw that. Grats Danni, you're tall! Also think the decision to bring Danni rather than Lydia to F3 was really silly. I mean, I can definitely see it from Rafe's perspective, given that he is pretty sure that he has two people that are going to bring him to the final two. But I wonder if it's in Steph's interest to gambool and go to the rocks. Maybe it just depends on her perception of Rafe and Danni's alliance.
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03-11-2011 , 04:40 PM

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03-11-2011 , 04:46 PM
Oh wow, at the time I made my post it was before Danni voted, and I just assumed she was going to stick with Rafe (I think I had read enough Rafe posts in here that I assumed he pulled out the win somehow, didn't know results).

Looking forward to Judd and Crazy Jamie at FTC.
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03-11-2011 , 04:53 PM
****, hope i didnt screw it up for you. I'm sorry man
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03-11-2011 , 04:56 PM
Nah no sweat -- I understand that if I'm browsing the old seasons thread, I'm going to occasionally get spoiled, and if I want to avoid that I can just stay away from this thread for a while. There's gotta be some sort of statute of limitations of spoilers anyway, and I think the four years since this season happened has gotta be past that =p
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03-11-2011 , 04:59 PM
hahaha ok

Did you enjoy the season though? I think I need to rewatch it.

I really really liked the puzzle challenge with the steps turning to red that Danni had the bonus for. I thought it was really clever.
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03-11-2011 , 05:05 PM
Yeah they've done that challenge or something similar a few times, it's a good one. Thought Danni blew her advantage way too early/before it become 100% clear which position was going to last the longest, but still managed to squeak it out.


Definitely enjoyed the season. Was really surprised at Steph and Bobby Jon coming back, and also surprised that everyone recognized them -- I guess at this point of Survivor, seasons were spread out further, so that people had already had a chance to see the previous season before this one? Also enjoyed the fact that this season was such a physically grueling one... was crazy to see all the dudes just dead after day one. And there were enough entertaining characters, enough entertaining strategy, etc., to make it compelling. Also agree with GreenMile that I found myself rooting for Cindy and sad when she bustod =(
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03-11-2011 , 05:16 PM
Yeah that makes sense. It's much more difficult to successfully bring someone back the very next season today with them filming before the previous season airs.

I think you hit the nail on the head wtr Guatemala's appeal: it was just so physically grueling. You saw everyone exhausted immediately and all the skin issues they were having, and really understood how difficult it was out there more than the previous couple of seasons.
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03-12-2011 , 06:49 PM
Thx to the constant recommendation, I have finally started Amazon. Rob C has already made me legit lol 2-3 times and I'm not even to the first challenge yet. I think this one's gonna be a fun one.
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03-12-2011 , 07:05 PM
JimHalpert you will finally see how awesome Cesternino is!
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