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10-07-2010 , 05:12 PM
Most seasons are relatively uninteresting for the first few weeks; the first few boots are usually formulaic, whereas at least this time you had Shannon going early in a tremendous blaze of glory. Indeed, one of the things I like about HvV and FvF is that the early episodes were interesting, which is the exception rather than the rule. Besides, the swap next week should make for a fantastic episode, and for good strategy/drama for the next few weeks. Complaining about the quality of the past few episodes is pointless imo.

Oddly, I agree with Kart re. Marty. I think his play could be justified (although I still disagree with the JJ boot) if he knows that there will be a swap after the first four or so TCs (which is a reasonable assumption given the history of the show), but his surprise at the swap seems to be genuine, and he seems to be surprisingly impulsive and emotional for someone of his background. Nonetheless, I'm still rooting for him since I don't see anyone else who's thinking on the same level as him.
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10-07-2010 , 05:21 PM
what this season really needs is Frosti

just kidding. This season is awesome. The editing is great, and there are great characters everywhere. Of course, the final 4 will probably wind up being some terrible group that I hate, like Sash, Yve, Benry, and Na Onka. But by that point it'll probably be kartinken's favorite season ever, and I'll wonder once again why I post in and read this thread.

Last edited by boc4life; 10-07-2010 at 05:30 PM.
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10-07-2010 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by vyk07
LOL what the hell are you talking about?

How could we forget her caring/lovable side that the producers are obviously failing to show us
do you really not think that there could possibly be such a side? The editing in this show is heavily, heavily manipulated. Na Onka is a bitch, for sure, but the editors are clearly going out of their way to make sure America hates her with a passion.
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10-07-2010 , 05:41 PM
Having an immunity idol is a pretty redeeming quality. I'd wanna be her friend, too.
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10-07-2010 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Steroid Boy
you have to save the gif to your comp and the upload it to the avatar that way
tried this. Three times.
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10-07-2010 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cash mahne
with the previews that their is going to be some sort of tribe mix up, Ithink Marty does have a great chance to win
Um, merge is a pad thing for the tribe with lesser numbers. Specifically for leaders on said tribe.
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10-07-2010 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by boc4life
do you really not think that there could possibly be such a side? The editing in this show is heavily, heavily manipulated. Na Onka is a bitch, for sure, but the editors are clearly going out of their way to make sure America hates her with a passion.
you don't think that she can actually be deserving of her negative edit? plus who knows what she, or benry and kelly purple might have done to piss off the producers. Hell, I saw more of Brett of Samoa in most episodes than I see of these two

i wish they released more deleted footage from recent seasons like Samoa and HvsV. they must have endless stocks of footage that they couldn't fit into the episodes

who knows what kind of shenanigans were occuring over at Galu premerge when Russell and Foa Foa had 95% of the screen time and Tribal Councils
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10-07-2010 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Wise
tried this. Three times.
Gary try using one of the Fabio gifs I posted at the top of the page for now

See if any of them at least work for you
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10-07-2010 , 07:02 PM
How do you think they switch the tribes up? If Marty's tribe is either equal or in the majority (highly unlikely), that could invite the older members to purposely lose challenges, force him to use his idol, then vote out younger members.
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10-07-2010 , 07:18 PM
If Alina/KB end up on the same tribe as 2+ of Brenda/NaOnka/Chase/KellyS, Alina/KB will almost certainly flip imo.
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10-07-2010 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by kartinken
I also think you guys are off base on NaOnka's chances. She's only hated by 2 or 3 people that she doesn't intend to allow to make the jury. The rest of the tribe seems to love her. That being said she is going to be in real trouble when the tribes shuffle next week.
def getting an 'she has the idol so...' vibe from brenda, i'm not getting any evidence that everyone else in her alliances likes her all that much either. seems more a marriage of convenience, that said she makes a great shield if she ends up in the majority so she could make jury no probs

i guess if she manages to get lucky with the new tribe and not spaz out too much from here on out its a diff story, she def capable of being nice and charming
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10-07-2010 , 07:45 PM
I am 100% unspoiled and will give you 200:1 odds on Na Onka winning. No winner gets edited even close to as negatively as NaOnka is getting.
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10-07-2010 , 07:56 PM
Jimmy T singing, Tyrone/Dan reaction




NaOnka "you're good"




"Sometimes I just want to shake him. Marty! Get a clue!"




Holly with the "dat ass" face




Yve blindfolding herself




"Jimmy T's got some issues going on"




"Damnit"




Anyone notice the spider scene right before Brenda walked off with chase?




Tyrone: "I think today's challenge was a success"




Marty: "He clearly suffers from delusions of grandeur..."




Tyrone Episode 4 Tribal Council Montage



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10-07-2010 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by vyk07
Anyone notice the spider scene right before Brenda walked off with chase?

lol didn't make the connection, that's pretty cool
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10-07-2010 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SavageTilt
If Alina/KB end up on the same tribe as 2+ of Brenda/NaOnka/Chase/KellyS, Alina/KB will almost certainly flip imo.
This switch really benefits those those (A/KB) the most. Go from drawing dead to legit fighting chance now. Helps Fabio and Benry in that regard too. Maybe even Holly but she might be crazy prone.

Definitely hurts Nuhuhnka and Brenda the most. I sincerely doubt either of them possess the smarts to survive without a power alliance. People act like Brenda is Parvatti 2.0 but she lucked her way into a power position with the help of Sash's smarts and Chase's stupidity.

Don't think it hurts Marty's endgame since this basically accelerates it. He'll either be in a position of total power or be voted off soon, same scenario if they merged as young/old too.

Let's just do a list.

Helps=

Alina
Kelly B
Benry
Jud
Holly

Hurts=
Brenda
Nuhuhnka
Tyrone
Sash? I feel like he's smart enough to form new alliances but he lost his power alliance.
Jill if she can no longer ride Marty's coattails.

No change=
rest, lot of floaters at this point. Chase obv isn't a take charge guy. Kelly Purple is useless and doesn't matter. Jane/Dan are too weak and will be voted off soon. Yve looks like she can gain anyone's trust.
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10-07-2010 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by boc4life
do you really not think that there could possibly be such a side? The editing in this show is heavily, heavily manipulated. Na Onka is a bitch, for sure, but the editors are clearly going out of their way to make sure America hates her with a passion.
pushing the girl with one leg is one thing but taking fabio's socks... you've crossed the line.
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10-07-2010 , 08:35 PM
Guys let me know how you feel about the size and image quality of the gifs

They are extracted from HD samples of nicaragua episodes and used by a free converter which only allows to be 160x90

Noone has any problems seeing them and they are not blurry I trust?
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10-07-2010 , 09:36 PM
I don't know if it's just on my end, but some of them sort of "flicker" at times. Your Fabio avatar blinks just a bit in the first couple frames, and I get some weird whiteness (racist ban) on Soncy's Tyrone avatar. It could just be my graphics card, though.

re: tribal swap, I think there are too many scenarios to work out before it happens. Pretty much ANYONE could be in a good/bad spot based on how things shake out. Like, if the only swap that took place was Chase and Brenda getting traded for Holly and Jane, all four of them would probably be screwed. If Marty got swapped for Chase, he's possibly (but certainly not definitely) screwed. If Alina and KB get swapped into the same tribe as Marty+Jill+Dan, they could own everything. It's just way too complicated to think about until we see how things shake out.
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10-07-2010 , 10:37 PM
Kos I heard you are in for the Power Rankings with our 5. I wonder what kind of disparities there are going to be in the rankings.

The flickering of the gifs is just because of the load time (especially the load time of this terribly epic gif bomb of a page)

I do not see any whiteness in Soncy's avatar, that might be an issue with your graphics
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10-07-2010 , 11:20 PM
Yeah, it must be mine because I just noticed I'm getting some type of flickering on several gifs (you, Savage, Soncy, etc.). Just ignore me.

I'm in for the power rankings, though I think we should hold off until next week, as stuff is potentially going to change dramatically. Are we doing it solely off what we'd think if we were out there (i.e. from the Probst seat), or are we factoring in editing+Probst's blog+other general crap? For example, someone from the Probst seat might think NaOnka has a non-zero (though still very small) chance to win. Sitting at home, though, it's pretty clear that she's drawing completely dead.
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10-07-2010 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Kos13
Yeah, it must be mine because I just noticed I'm getting some type of flickering on several gifs (you, Savage, Soncy, etc.). Just ignore me.

I'm in for the power rankings, though I think we should hold off until next week, as stuff is potentially going to change dramatically. Are we doing it solely off what we'd think if we were out there (i.e. from the Probst seat), or are we factoring in editing+Probst's blog+other general crap? For example, someone from the Probst seat might think NaOnka has a non-zero (though still very small) chance to win. Sitting at home, though, it's pretty clear that she's drawing completely dead.
Good question

I can only assume that we are doing it from an outsider's viewpoint, taking editing/tribe dynamics into account
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10-08-2010 , 01:05 AM
ok few things. gifs look good vyk, still need a good hot yve one. nayonka could def be hated by her alliance, shes just a number atm. i think taking fabios socks was worse then pushing over one leg kelly.(treating kelly as a equal and just wanting the idol). also wow kelly purple has not gotten a lot of screen time. we need more of her, if just for shots of her body. also i think it has been a solid start to the season.
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10-08-2010 , 01:11 AM
Been watching some videos on CBS's site and some spoilers regarding the tribe switch:

Spoiler:

So far I can tell there's a yellow tribe:
Marty
Jill - couldn't see her in video but this would make the most sense
Jud
Jane
Sash
Brenda
Kelly B
Kelly P

Blue:
Benry
NaOnka
Chase
Alina
Dan
Yve
Tyrone
Holly

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10-08-2010 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Dyenimator
Been watching some videos on CBS's site and some spoilers regarding the tribe switch:

Spoiler:

So far I can tell there's a yellow tribe:
Marty
Jill - couldn't see her in video but this would make the most sense
Jud
Jane
Sash
Brenda
Kelly B
Kelly P

Blue:
Benry
NaOnka
Chase
Alina
Dan
Yve
Tyrone
Holly

Spoiler:
Will the Pubes who were on the outs try to realign with Greys, or align with each other now? If you are correct, I see why Naynay was so sad. She lost her whipping boy and girl, and is in a spot where 4 greys and Alina could easily target her. What happens if she leaves her idol at the yellow camp and gets packed off to the blue camp at the switch up? Is the idol still hers, and how does she get it back? Are odds not high that the Blues dominate challenges with Ben, Chase, and Tyrone?


Isn't it a little early to say the season is no good? Has there ever been a non-all-star season that was super good pre-merge? We are still getting to know people and relationships and relationships are about to get stood on their head. Let's give this some time to unfold, people.
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10-08-2010 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Dyenimator
Been watching some videos on CBS's site and some spoilers regarding the tribe switch:

Spoiler:

So far I can tell there's a yellow tribe:
Marty
Jill - couldn't see her in video but this would make the most sense
Jud
Jane
Sash
Brenda
Kelly B
Kelly P

Blue:
Benry
NaOnka
Chase
Alina
Dan
Yve
Tyrone
Holly

Woah, you weren't kidding. They don't even make an attempt at hiding what tribe everyone is on. I like it, though, because it gives us five days (instead of 30 minutes) to speculate on the fallout.

Spoiler:
Could this possibly have worked out any better for the oldies? Geez. I LOVE LOVE LOVE this for Marty. Assuming Jill is Yellow (which is weird because they "reset" the tribe numbers instead of just swapping players), we should have Marty+Jill vs. Sash+Brenda+Purple, and KB, Jane, and Fabio are the swing votes. Fabio and KB have to be looking at this as an opportunity to regain some control, and Jane will just go with the majority, so I think there's a really good chance Sash goes at their next TC.

Blue is an absolute mess. Incredibly, there are ZERO "true" alliances remaining. The closest one would be Chase and NaOnka, and they're only close because of Brenda. Again, though, I think you have to like the old people on this split. Dan, Yve, Holly, and Tyrone really have no reason to turn on each other, but Alina and Benry both have serious incentive to turn on Chase and NaOnka. I guess Dan could go if Tyrone aligns with Chase in an effort to strengthen the new team, but if they're smart, the oldies will bring in Alina and take control.

Man, this is friggin' awesome. If you're rooting for the oldies and against the dominant kid alliance like I am, I'm not sure you could have dreamed up a more perfect tribe split (other than Dan and Jane swapping spots). It's pretty incredible how well this worked out for the oldies.
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