Rooting for: Sandra, Parv, JT
Happy with Winning: Amanada, Candice, Courtney, Jerri
Not pleased: Russell (I blame all you), Colby
Unacceptable: Danielle, Rupert

This is obviously as of today. I'm willing to come around on more or less everyone but Rupert. You guys helped give Russell a huge uphill battle in my eyes. I don' care that much about his actual finish, but it'll be just too sweet if he finishes 9thish.

Yeah that would be awesome. But then I'd have to start defending Rupert. Not sure I have that in me

Molejunkie on youtube has all the mole seasons if anybody is interested.

I would be _____ if these players won:

Ecstatic: Russell
Happy: JT
Okay with it: Parvati, Candice, Colby
Indifferent: Jerri, Rupert, Danielle, Amanda
Disappointed in the rest of the HvV cast: Courtney
Extremely ****ing pissed off: Sandra

From the start of the season I think the only thing that would have made me dislike this season was to see Sandra or Cirie win. I'm halfway to salvation.

What do you have against women who are amazing at the game of Survivor? Maybe if they got some fake boobs you'd at least be indifferent.

lol Sandra is amazing at Survivor? At the most generous she is a mildly intelligent coat tailer.

I think I've already said in this thread that Sandra is pretty good at manipulation and is definitely no dummy. But her confessionals and attitude are far more vindictive than people are giving it credit for. I can't stand her **** eating comments when she's writing peoples names down at tribal. I mean obviously Russell is an evil son of a bitch too but my read on Russell is that it's all just in the game. It doesn't seem like that to me with Sandra. She seems genuinely evil.

Also, I don't like fatties.

That's fair about Sandra. As I have said in the past I have a soft spot for feisty Hispanic women.

Russell is a fatty and you like him.

I think she's quite bright, when it comes to the social game. I don't think there has ever been a player who is better at knowing the social dynamics of the people around her.

She is one of very few Survivors who spy. This is a highly underrated and underused strategy. When most Survivors sit on their asses and ask each other "where did they go, I wonder what they are talking about!?" Sandra just finds them and listens. She then figures out exactly what to do to shift those dynamics in her favor.

I just love her. She plays a very similar game to the one I would play, just with a lot more emotion/anger.

Russell is a little gnomish troll, it adds to the hilarity of his personality. The guy is definitely no weakling though. I like physicality, and it's something that players like Sandra and Cirie, while smart, offer absolutely nothing towards. Part of my appraisal of a players worth can be old-school like that, which I acknowledge can be a bit lame.

Based on what, your clairvoyance? Certainly not the show itself. What has she ever done to make you think she is the best at the social game? In the season she won she made zero moves, was invisible, sat back and coasted to the end, threw a temper tantrum when one of her alliance was voted out, and then got lucky to go against a WOAT at FTC.

This season she has done nothing, sat back, coasted on Robs nuts, and finally maybe made her first ever move by suggesting Coach to Russell.

Somehow this adds up to her being one of the best social players ever? Can you provide an example of this GOAT social game?

Cirie is a GOAT at social game, Sandra cant hold a candle next to her.

I think you underrate Cirie in challenges. She's defintiely not good, but she's nowhere near as worthless as Sandra or Courtney.

As men go, Russell is below average at challenges, I'd say. I was just bustin your balls about hatin on 2 of my favorites.

Cirie plays the social game differently. Sandra is more in the shadows, while Cirie is more of a power player. Both are amazing at understand the social dynamics. Cirie is better at molding the long term game, and Sandra is better at working out of short term problems.

She "thew a temper tantrum" because she knew it meant she was next on the chopping block. She was plotting to get rid of Rupert herself down the road as I have reminded people about 10 times now. I get a lot of heat for repeating myself, but it's only because a small few of you don't seem to actually like to read the posts in the thread before commenting.

Her game doesn't involve making moves when things are going well for her. It would have been stupid of her to make moves when she was nestled in a strong alliance pre-merge. It would be atrocious gameplay. Players like Courntey and Sandra can't try to make moves pre-merge. They are already huge pre-merge targets b/c of their uselessness in challenges. If you saw Sandra making moves now you could use THAT as proof she's bad. Not making a move til she had to then making a great one is just proof of my point.

It saddens me to learn you are Canadian

Is there a single example of game play in there I am missing? Can you name me ONE thing she has ever done in the game to have any influence or a role of any kind, ever?

Guys this is pretty unrelated but I just remembered that Jordan won the last Big Brother. SERIOUSLY WTF?!

telling time is hard.....

Yes, feel free to review my posts from the last time this was debated for examples. I'm tired of repeating myself

I had mixed emotions. I wanted Jeff to win, and I sorta feel like Jordan winning was like Amber winning. Yeah the semi-useless hottie won, but we know who really won it for them. In that respect I am happier Jordan won than most other people.

Oh wait, I'm stupid. I wanted Kevin to win, totally forgot about him.

Us 1 and 2 are the only ones I checked and they have been taken down for copyright infringement. Probably better not to post this stuff in here. PMs is probably best.

None of the vids work though

Several reasons. He's yummy. I like that he is a nice guy. Because of the way people who are atheletic are large targets following the merge, I don't really like his chances for making it to the end. So if he gets there, I would assume that he managed to do something right along the way. He's not an ideal winner by a long shot, but I'd still be all right with it if he won.

Coach IS WOAT, and I'd be fine with it if he ever managed to win one because it would amuse me. If I could except Coach in theory, it's a little hypocritcal of me to exclude ANYONE as being less than exceptable. Acknowleging that fact, I still do so, but Colby doesn't fall on that list for me.

^^ Not a female.

wow this thread is awesome, huge survivor fan. I try discussing with my family but they're all clearly morons and just dont quite get it.
Just watched Cook Islands because i missed it first time round and thought it was aweosme. Ozzy is def best at challenges ever.
I cant stand waiting for new eps to come out, any suggestions on other good seasons? im thinking of China (havent seen) or Fan v Fav (was awesome)