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The crazy thing is she knew he knew. So dumb. I guess I was still a step behind them though because they swapped the fake before that scene in the jungle.

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11-03-2021 , 08:57 PM

#402

Bidz

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yo that tribal was awesome

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11-03-2021 , 08:58 PM

#403

VTChess

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Damn, I would have looked like a genius if I had been out there and had the balls to randomly ask Tiffany if she had it. Idk if I could have but man I wanted to.

Sydney should have let the vote go 4-4-4 and she would have stayed over Evvie in a re-vote. Can't blame her though; she probably expected Evvie to still have an idol played on her

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11-03-2021 , 08:58 PM

#404

NotReddBoiler

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That was a great tribal. Sets up really well for more crazy tribals incoming too imo

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11-03-2021 , 08:58 PM

#405

hair loss at 19_

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Man-hater saved by a man she’s been trying to get out all season, and admits she wouldn’t do the same for him. 1st good episode all season

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11-03-2021 , 09:03 PM

#406

brianr

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Wish they would vote off evvie’s rainbow shorts

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11-03-2021 , 09:04 PM

#407

Bidz

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5 votes for sydney: naseer erika liana heather shan
4 votes for evvie: danny ricard deshawnx2 (he used his extra vote)
3 votes for deshawn: evvie xander tiffany

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11-03-2021 , 09:17 PM

#408

VTChess

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Originally Posted by Bidz

5 votes for sydney: naseer erika liana heather shan
4 votes for evvie: danny ricard deshawnx2 (he used his extra vote)
3 votes for deshawn: evvie xander tiffany

I wonder why Deshawn used his extra vote, and why 5 people voted for Sydney, instead of them just making it a 4-4-4 vote.

Maybe Deshawn was uneasy that Naseer might not be with them and would vote Deshawn. But even then, it would be 5 votes for Deshawn, 4 for Sydney, and 4 for Evvie, which still ends Deshawn. So I'm not totally sure why he used it.

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11-03-2021 , 09:24 PM

#409

NotReddBoiler

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Originally Posted by VTChess

I heard Danny asking everyone at the last second if they can just switch it. He must have meant lets not split it evenly, lets just go Sydney. Smart play(but obvious play as well) for DeShawn to double up on Evvie just in case idol is played on Sydney.

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11-03-2021 , 09:25 PM

#410

Symbioticse

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Giving it to Tiffany in particular is a genius move, especially with the fake idol. I'm in on Xander, didn't think he was playing well socially but he clearly has a great mind for the game

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11-03-2021 , 09:37 PM

#411

brianr

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Just atrocious gameplay that the knowledge is power advantage wasn’t kept secret.

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11-03-2021 , 09:53 PM

#412

Soncy

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Why didn't the Evvie group pull in Erika based on the fact her entire tribe had been trying to vote her out before she smashed the glass? Also, Heather and Naseer ripe for the picking in the misfit tribe. I feel like the ball is being dropped.

Is Ricard going to be fine with the BLM movement voting him out 5th? I mean what's his plan on this path he's on? He's going to wrest control by creating a 'anti-guys' alliance at the end?

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11-03-2021 , 09:56 PM

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Soncy

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Also, why wasn't the backup plan to vote out Xander in the event the idol steal failed? Pre-plan a false vote split on Tiff and Evvie with the actual plan being vote off Xander. Not enough balls/ovaries for that move?

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11-03-2021 , 09:58 PM

#414

Bidz

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Tiff and Xander could not be voted for

only ones who could receive votes were Danny, Naseer, Deshawn, Sydney, and Evvie

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11-03-2021 , 10:41 PM

#415

housenuts

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Originally Posted by brianr

I guess the steal an idol has to be played at tribal? Otherwise why didn’t she just take it when he had it in his hand in the jungle?

Cause he didn't. He had the fake at that time.

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11-03-2021 , 10:46 PM

#416

housenuts

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Originally Posted by Symbioticse

Giving it to Tiffany in particular is a genius move, especially with the fake idol. I'm in on Xander, didn't think he was playing well socially but he clearly has a great mind for the game

Also based on her comments, Tiff was like this is your idol. You tell me what to do. She will 100% give it back next ep. I'm not clear if Evvie would give it back. Well Evvie would've just played it on herself, so it'd be wasted away.

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11-04-2021 , 01:05 AM

#417

NotReddBoiler

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That Liana blunder has to be up there with James getting voted out with two idols, Erik giving away his immunity, and some of the other all time blunders. I mean how do you waste something that powerful?!

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11-04-2021 , 02:10 AM

#418

Mark_K

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Originally Posted by NotReddBoiler

As mentioned earlier, the blunder wasn't "wasting" the power. It was having the power become public knowledge.

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11-04-2021 , 04:04 AM

#419

BringbckMichelleYi

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Well I went into the episode fully expecting Sydney to be the merge boot based on her edit and position and we got there, all be in a very roundabout way.

Really really poor gameplay by Liana. She knew Xander knew about her steal an idol and she seriously thought he was going to show off the real one at tribal. Baffling

Been eyeing up Tiffany as the winner for a long time now, just trying to work out how they flip the numbers. My assumption is this big alliance just starts cannibalising themselves sooner rather than later

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11-04-2021 , 04:41 AM

#420

BringbckMichelleYi

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Originally Posted by Punker

I think she won't smash it and it will be perfectly understandable.

From her perspective:

1) My team enters the merge with 6 people. We have the numbers.
2) 4 of my team is already immune and "earned" it
3) We'll likely pick off one of the people from one of the weaker in numbers tribes
4) If I smash it, I'm making enemies of half the people in the game
5) If I don't smash it, it looks kind of selfless and should garner me enough favor with the people who remain immune

Well that prediction worked out well.

Based on the edit it seemed that the only person bothered by the smash was Danny, and even then it was more aimed at production not Erika. They were more than happy to include her in their voting block come tribal council time.

Probably as like me the whole cast knew it was an absolute no brainer decision to take immunity when offered to you

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11-04-2021 , 05:09 AM

#421

JStunna

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Originally Posted by Mark_K

As mentioned earlier, the blunder wasn't "wasting" the power. It was having the power become public knowledge.

I inferred that by "waste," NotRedd meant the fact that Liana told anyone about her advantage, exponentially increasing the potential for failure when attempting to use it.

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11-04-2021 , 05:27 AM

#422

Symbioticse

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Originally Posted by VTChess

Evvie told Deshawn during their hike that Xander had an extra vote, so 5 votes have to go on somebody to correctly split if the minority vote together just in case. It was actually a pretty sharp play.

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11-04-2021 , 07:50 AM

#423

Bidz

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if only Sydney had kept her vote and put it on Evvie instead of trying the 1 in 6 … what could have been

Lol her goodbye at the end was so deliciously bitchy

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11-04-2021 , 08:58 AM

#424

housenuts

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Originally Posted by BringbckMichelleYi

Based on the edit it seemed that the only person bothered by the smash was Danny, and even then it was more aimed at production not Erika. They were more than happy to include her in their voting block come tribal council time.

Anyone is happy to include anyone in their voting block. The other people would've like to include Erika, or Danny, or whoever in their voting block too. Erika chose to rejoin that voting block.

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11-04-2021 , 09:06 AM

#425

BringbckMichelleYi

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Join Date: Feb 2020 Posts: 515

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Originally Posted by housenuts

Anyone is happy to include anyone in their voting block. The other people would've like to include Erika, or Danny, or whoever in their voting block too. Erika chose to rejoin that voting block.

Sure, my point is that the 'cliffhanger' was pointless as it was such a stacked decision. I went into this week thinking there was a sub 1% chance she doesn't smash it.

Her positioning in the game on the face of it hasn't changed materially at all.

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