Also meant to add, lolCharlie.

Mergatory sucks and watching them repeat it 6 times in a row is cheap lazy and predictable.

Preview next week splitting them into two small groups for a double boot sucks and watching them repeat it 6 times in a row is cheap lazy and predictable.


Smart move by Charlie protecting against the shot in the dark richochet. Did what the 45 cast failed to do.

That’s a good point. I guess he was potentially deflecting for the SITD hitting.

I as always enjoy the final 13 and final 12 game mechanics

Tim is not good at this game.

Feels like Q is strong arming a bit too hard. And does he have a bias against quirky women with red hair?

One minute Venus fly trap is crying because no one wants to talk to her, the next she's saying she has power in the game. I don't think she knows how the game works. I mean she was completely correct they should be voting out Charlie instead of Moriah, but botched her sales pitch...and then was smirky when it wasn't herself going home. Honey, they have very little incentive to vote someone out who no one would be willing to give the money vote to in the end, but don't confuse that with a position of power. You couldn't even convince them to do something in their best interests.

Did the green tribe not realize their hesitance to be willing to release one of their members was going to be a problem? I'm still not sure how more people weren't on board with axing Charlie. Maybe they were afraid someone had an idol they'd be willing to play for him since he was someone they didn't want to let go.

She's a pretty terrible player that doesn't get much heat for it because she's attractive.

I did laugh during the ep when post merge, they all identified literally the worst players as the big threats: "Venus is so smart, she's dangerous!" or "Moriah has this amazing social game, she's a big threat". Meanwhile, all of them are on the bottom of their tribes with no allies.

I think everyone is **** scared to vote off anyone who is actually good at the game at the merge these days because of the idols and advantages. The one time they tried it with Christian in DvG it backfired massively. It's just so much easier to get an easy voteoff with someone who is expendable and that the others from their tribe are fairly sure doesn't have anything and they are less likely to have an idol/advantage played on them.

Yeah. Venus is really bad. Not from the standpoint she can't have a good idea, but the game is ultimately about getting people to like/trust you enough to work with you. She's massive fail in that area.

I think some of the 'so and so is such a big threat' is just them manufacturing reasons why the person they are targeting is being targeted. Often the real reason is simply the person being targeted seems expendable and therefore safe. People want to play the anybody but me strategy while pretending they are Boson Rob. Pretending someone is a threat seems kinder than when they villainize the person they are trying to get rid of. Acting like they are some kind of horrible/evil person when they are just a person who isn't in your side. But yeah, the fact they can say these guys are such big threats with a straight face is bit eye rolly.

Just an awful season so far. Hate that I'm pot committed to watching.

Yeah me too. I really like the surviving survivor game vt chess runs or else I'd quit watching this season altogether.

this is exactly where I’m at

I feel season has got a bit better. More than annoyed at this season, I'm macro annoyed at Survivor. New era sucks, 26 days of repetitive formula sucks. Sadly still pot committed to the show in general.

just feels like too obvious of a Kenzie winner edit

can it be that simple

Kenzie or Maria IMO. Would have said Tiff a couple of episodes ago but she's gotten zero air time in the past couple of weeks. I have no idea with Liz, but could see her as the zero vote FTC person.

Venus could go so far if she wasn't so try hard and began to play up the fact she has no alliance with anyone.

Q and Tevin are also playing way too hard for this stage of the game. I'm hoping to see Hunter go on an II run although I think he has zero chance of winning. Might make it to fire.

What possible reason did Charlie have to out himself as voting for Venus? I can't even think of a single good or marginal or even neutral benefit.

He's an idiot, and I should have trusted my original read of lolCharlie. There goes the theory he voted Venus for SITD protection.

He's not very bright

Q is certainly the best character. And he’s very stupid.

I think he's the most likely boot next week. 8th/9th/10th is the spot the typical 'godfather' edits get sniped out.

Orange and Green should be looking to strike at purple now and while Kensie is the most obvious target, I can see Maria being more annoyed at Q for blowing up the 'six' and it landing on him.

At 11, it would make sense for Kenzie to flip on purple and go with another group to vote out Q. She gives me the impression that she'd happily flip to whoever. She's also doing a very Dee esque job of pulling strings without anyone knowing it, which is why I think she's a strong candidate for the win.

So Maria, Charlie, Ben, add Venus because she has no loyalty to anyone and Kenzie as a block would be basically unstoppable. They could easily pull in Tevin or Hunter for one vote and then it's gg after that as a power 5, especially with two idols if Hunter comes along.

Immunity run time. He's been pretending to be bad apparently.

Not even a dozen posts here following the first episode post-merge tells you a lot about this season.

kind of says more about the state of twoplustwo these days tbh

They’re not all gonna be slame dunks

This really. Maybe Survivor is of questionable quality, but the quality of the posts in this forum 'discussing' Survivor has been unquestionably bad.