Jefra > Morgan ainec IMO

Agree with throwing the next challenge being FPS-but-not-FPS. Even if LJ gets away with it, if the swap is delayed and they lose another challenge he loses an ally and whichever girl survives won't be feeling great about Jeremiah/LJ.

The only time someone should "throw" a challenge is during II challenges, when a guy doesnt want to win too many early and set up a situation where winning makes him a challenge threat. Like you shouldnt be winning 2 of the first 3 post merge II challenges unless you are in danger of going home. If you can afford it, wait til the en to demonstrate challenge prowess.

Did that monsoon break her nose too?

Meh....

Hope from Survivor Caramoan way hotter and underrated.

Just goes to show it takes all kinds. My wife and I are in agreement that we're never going to Kentucky because Jeffra was the prettiest person there, and we're currently plotting how to get Morgan to be our girlfriend.

If your goal is to get rid of Morgan, it could possibly considered a good move but if it brings you into the merge two down I can't see the upside. The numbers, even if Morgan flips, is the same as winning and forcing the other team to vote off someone else.

In the meantime LJ would be the lesser for it throwing a match.

I definitely understand the impulse to think that the Beauty team should try hard in the next IC, but it seems like once the idea of throwing is suggested and critical thought is applied, the decision to throw seems clear.

It begins with the basis that a swap is coming after the fourth vote. Not a guess; not a gamble; an understanding of what's overwhelmingly likely to happen regardless of challenge outcome. In that instance, Morgan is a liability for you/your alliance regardless of how the swap goes down. She is the furthest thing in the game from a reliable vote for your side. Any random person in the game would be less likely to target your group and she'd be more likely to work with any random person than with your alliance. Her status as a liability versus an asset shouldn't be in question when you're making the decision to throw or not.

Secondly, if the Brains had lost the first four challenges, I (meaning LJ) would have concerns about production splitting the two remainders between the preexisting tribes, but now that we (Beauty) have lost one IC (and ideally another), it appears that the numbers entering the swap will be 6-4-4. Examining all of the swap possibilities suggests that while having a 3 Brawn 2 Beauty 2 Brain split would be likely and would also be ostensibly perfect for our efforts, a random swap is also a possibility. However, in either case, being rid of Morgan is massively superior to leaving her around, as we have to expect that after we've just booted her only friend, she'll be far more inclined to work against our best interests than for them.

I'd be absolutely shocked if it's not random. 3-2-2 would just give the team that hasn't lost an immunity a HUGE disadvantage.

There are some nice female specimens on the show this season.

And some great reaction shots from them. What's her face who almost got voted out who doesn't have the giant rack. She had some genuine panic on her face while Morgan was sporting a smirk.

GREAT STUFF

Also add that Morgan has info on how the 4 people in the Beauty tribe are broken down. Jeremiah, e.g., has to be a bit concerned that Morgan is going to start telling people that he is able and willing to lie to people's faces. Not the end of the world and lesser point to the one above but not an entirely futile point either.

RE: Preview for E3 - How often are strategy previews like this ever actually significant? To me, it seems like it's been pretty rare for it to actually be accurate/completely truthful, so I doubt this one will come into play at all - chances of brawn losing are pretty slim imo.

Jeremiah = Chase Rice

Rob C and Fishbach were trying to figure that out on the after show.

Hahahaha.

She is very very pretty.

Done and done!

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QFT

One downside to throwing the challenge if your LJ, Is what if you lose the challenge after that?

The girls probably won't want to split up and Jeremiah is a flip risk. Plus they may see him as a physical threat in individual immunity. Could cost LJ his HII.

Try to win the challenge imo and wrangle in votes later. Depending on how things shake they might even be able to keep Morgan on there side post merge if they do some damage control.

If Beauty does lose next challenge I think LJ should show idol to tribe mates. His alliance isn't smart enough to flip on him at 5 and it could help make everyone comfortable that Morgan doesn't have it.

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yeah i had to do a doubletake and rewind to realize that was really jefra in that bikini.

Such a cute small innocent face then BLAM uppercuts you with that

Yeah but they didn't actually indicate who would be voted off. It seems to me any thrown team challenge tends to be blatant and unwelcome, without any long term success. I can't recall any sole survivor associated with one.

Depending on how the shuffle works out it would make sense from a production and potential drama standpoint to do it at 14 and have two tribes of 7vs7, but as history shows they will make it random (I can't remember when they have had people pick each other except for the first episode when they don't know each other yet).

I think both Spencer and J'Tia have no loyalty to the Brains tribe at all so they would be happy to hop into any other alliance and both out another brain almost immediately. Morgan obviously will be looking for new friends as well if she survives next week.

Would be very interested to see a Spencer/Tasha and a J'Tia/Kass split from the Brains on two new tribes and see how they fare. But if it is truly random that is unlikely to happen.

Yes, but I guess what I'm implying is that there probably won't be any throw at all in E3. They almost never actually go through with these things if it's hinted at in the preview.

In Fiji they chose their mates at the swap. Last player picked would pick the next one, etc.

Dice the ice


When i get to a cpu and off my phone, I'll pm you a site someone gave me that has all the past seasons. You have to x out of a couple of ads at beginning, but after that its smooth sailing.


I recently rewatched heroes vs villains and it was great.

In Survivor Philippines, after Matsing was down to Denise and Malcolm, (14 left) each was absorbed by another tribe of six.

Of course this is all speculation but my guess is if Brains loses another player, the following week, it would be a random redraw. If Beauty loses another player, Brawn would be divided between Brains and Beauty. And if Brawn loses a player, Brains would be divided between Brawn and Beauty.

At twelve, the two tribes merge.

SS

today was monumental (tasha): stoked about winning the challenge. recounts the come from behind non-loss (she called it a victory). "...the team is exactly what it should be. We lost Garrett. And people were wondering, "Why the hell would they get rid of who appears to be the strongest member of their tribe?" Garrett was not the strongest member of this tribe. So, we let him go, and as a result, our communication was better. We're working as a cohesive unit and the results speak for themselves."

what draws me to cliff (wooo!): woo is team oriented, drawn to athletes. Connects on a different level. he has cliff robinson basketball cards.

we're trying our best (jeremiah): recounting the horrid conditions. Didn't eat yesterday because it was impossible to keep the fire going in the rain. Also, didn't drink much. yada

SS brice: They are making a corn hole game in the sand. Brice says, "They are out there playing corn ho. We don't play corn ho in Philly, so I'm trying to keep my spirits up...I continue to be a worker tho, while some of the girls...I don't know whatever they're being." Brice would probably not choose to spend his time throwing rocks at holes. He would spend his time getting hydrated and chilling out. "...they choose to throw rocks at holes down on the farm...only thing we was missing was a banjo...{sarcasm}Oh I can't wait to get back to Philly to corn ho...yeah, we don't do stuff like that. That ain't nothin' I won't probly ever do again. ...I tried to participate with a smile on my face, but I don't know if I was too believable."

this helps my standing (spencer): yada yada "...somehow we pull it together and win. The feeling I had after the challenge was not something I had ever felt before. We had two of our tribe members crying. We were just hugging all over the place. I can't even really remember it. It was such a blur." Win was huge. Shows them they can win, going forward, staying positive, and playing like a team. Doing the puzzle was risk reward. "I think it helps my standing because people see that I can help us win challenges."

one day at a time (kass): rain sucks, no rice sucks, it's day 7, you can't get down. First TC was a wake up call. She went into it thinking logically that they should get rid of J'Tia because she was the weakest member of the tribe. Then she realized she was out of the loop. But on the long hike back she realized that she was actually totally in control because there were two pairs. Then, she decided she better get out of survival mode around camp and get into game mode.

this weather beats you up (phony): This weather out here. This weather'll beat you up more than the people out running around lying behind your back beat you up. Rain sucks. "We having been trying to maintain that fire all day...well, I should say I....I built a roof for the fire. I've been non-stop working out here and it's taking a toll on me.