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02-27-2014 , 06:23 PM
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02-27-2014 , 06:28 PM
Garrett came off very poorly on RHAP. Just a monologue that mostly didnt make sense. Rob clearly decided to let him hang himself when he refused to even take a breath.
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02-27-2014 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by danspartan
Garrett came off very poorly on RHAP. Just a monologue that mostly didnt make sense. Rob clearly decided to let him hang himself when he refused to even take a breath.
Color me shocked.
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02-27-2014 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by danspartan
Garrett came off very poorly on RHAP. Just a monologue that mostly didnt make sense. Rob clearly decided to let him hang himself when he refused to even take a breath.
I thought the same thing. He spent the entire time trying to justify his bad play. It was kind of sad to listen to, honestly.
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02-27-2014 , 06:53 PM
Also, I've been thinking about this all day: how in the hell did J'tia screw that second challenge up so badly? Like how is it even possible? Once you place the first disc and lock in the spinning puzzle wheels, it's just a matter of trial and error to fit the others in right next to it. LJ and Sarah placed 16 pieces in the time it took J'tia to place two. Incredible.
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02-27-2014 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Odysseus
I thought the same thing. He spent the entire time trying to justify his bad play. It was kind of sad to listen to, honestly.
Lol, sounds like you typical poker coach(not saying he's a bad poker coach).

Wish he would've just owned up and said the reason he didn't want any "side convos" was because he was running on fumes and would rather have just laid at camp all day.
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02-27-2014 , 07:13 PM
easiest prediction in the world that the 'brains' tribe would fully implode. God they were horrible.
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02-27-2014 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by danspartan
Garrett came off very poorly on RHAP. Just a monologue that mostly didnt make sense. Rob clearly decided to let him hang himself when he refused to even take a breath.
I thought it made sense.

But it didn't address the basic errors of telling J'Tia she was going home and making it clear to Tasha that she was on the outs. If he was drained on Day 6 and didn't feel like playing the game, that would've been a more satisfying explanation.

And I think when Tasha says "I want to step away and talk to you and Spencer" that your instant reaction (at least on RHAP) shouldn't be "OF COURSE she didn't mean that, she meant she wanted to step away and talk to Kass."
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02-27-2014 , 08:04 PM
All alliances in Survivor history have been built on the strength of 1:1 relationships and deal making. Garrett did that with Spencer, but his unwillingness to bond and build rapport on an individual level (even superficially) with anyone else on his tribe was his biggest mistake. How he could have studied as much as he did and missed that as an essential part of the game is beyond me.
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02-27-2014 , 09:50 PM
Listening to the second edition of D and C preview... Colin just said if he is Spencer, he's getting in good with someone and throwing all the challenges. I have a couple of questions about that. Do these rewards they offer the tribes depending on finish offer any extra incentive for you to NOT throw the challenges? (Spencer himself seemed pretty relieved that they were being given fire making capability after that first TC. But you're going to complain about the horrible conditions, but disregard any leg up you could have? Is this a pat strategy you like or just one you like in Spencer's spot on this season?) How do you propose to throw the challenges? I assume you aren't taking point on the puzzle because it's too visible. How do you ensure challenge throwing in this team setting without putting yourself in the cross hairs? Do you just not do anything during the challenges and hope that is enough or do you actively bumble around and slow your team down?
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02-27-2014 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dedmau5
All alliances in Survivor history have been built on the strength of 1:1 relationships and deal making. Garrett did that with Spencer, but his unwillingness to bond and build rapport on an individual level (even superficially) with anyone else on his tribe was his biggest mistake. How he could have studied as much as he did and missed that as an essential part of the game is beyond me.
Exactly. This game is about communicating with the other players in a manner which they will be receptive to. Being able to manipulate someone emotionally is the most important skill in Survivor, and it's why I think Judson's (aka Fabio) interview on RHAP after winning Nicaragua is a must listen for future contestants.

Watching how Heidik interacts with the other players, and then seeing how other players perceived him in their confessionals is far more valuable information than anything he did in his own confessionals.

I was pleasantly surprised by Brice, the Beauty tribe, and Sarah. I liked Spencer too, but I'm not sure how so many people were rubbed the wrong way pre-game. I perceived him as just playing to the cameras.
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02-28-2014 , 12:53 AM
X-posted from NVG thread for those who don't go there...

For some insight into the decisions I made, here are links to a few of the interviews I did today:

http://robhasawebsite.com/survivor-c...ett-adelstein/

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethe...le-rouser.html

http://www.examiner.com/article/inte...dol-either-way

http://realitytvmagazine.sheknows.co...s-hidden-idol/

I've always been pretty self critical and will be the first one to admit that I made multiple decisions that were anywhere from marginal to flat out bad. Hopefully everyone was at least entertained by the premiere; expect continued high drama as the season unfolds.

Forgive me for not responding to individual questions about why I was such an epic failure
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02-28-2014 , 12:57 AM
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poker overlaps with Survivor (gman): Talks a good game. Hey, Gman, I'm curious about the dollar value that would be attached to the 2000+ hours you spent preparing for Survivor? How much did that cost you? Any regrets? Also, kudos for not letting on how massively disappointing the first episode was going to be for all of us who were hoping you did well. You successfully blindsided David, and then your fans.

i'm here to drink their blood (tony): Tony seems to be a little more popular with the masses than he is with me. Perhaps he will grow on me. Sure he's funny, but it's in a bumbling way, and he takes himself completely seriously, while I can't help thinking ' this guy'. Lying about being a police officer...good one. He's so threatening. He's not here to make friends. Bit of a vampire. He's super awesome. But he has no outdoor survival skills. He has to resist the urge to micro-manage people, for instance, how he micro-manages the way his wife washes a dish or wipes off her hands . Likes to eat...identifies that as a potential problem. Oh gosh, his wife is also a police officer. Pretty sure I'd have shot him by now...like the first time he suggested I was using the Bounty paper towels incorrectly. He's extremely loyal to the people he cares about. He doesn't care about any of his fellow cast aways and doesn't plan to be loyal to any of them.

SS david: Investigated the top of the rice container to see if it might be an idol. It was windy.

i'm out here for my girls (trish): Has been raising her two girls by herself for 15 years. It has been challenging financially. She thinks she has the tools to bring home the bacon. Came for the $, but anticipates that the experience will be bonus. It will be difficult for her to establish relationships with people, then have to stab them in the back. mmmmm, probably wrong game, Trish. She's a recovering Catholic. Has had a tough life, this one. If she can keep her temper under control, she thinks she can reel them right in. mmmm, good luck with that. She knows she doesn't look like much, but she's pretty strong and tough. ....like a piece of rawhide.

it's my destiny to be on survivor (for three days) david: Was really stoked about getting to play Survivor. I imagine he's pretty disappointed in how this unfolded. A pretty big fan. Has some Tony in him. Can't let people do their own thing if he thinks they should be doing something else. His word of the day is subjugate.
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02-28-2014 , 01:19 AM
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Obviously spent all 2k hours watching Cultmaster Rob in Marquesas
FYP
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02-28-2014 , 01:20 AM
I feel like the 3 tribe setup is kind of unfair because the beauty tribe is by default going to be young and in shape. Which means it's really brains against 2 teams of brawn. And let's face it high IQ is not that big a factor in Survivor, solving these type of puzzles is not something only braniacs can do.

I like the cast so far but I want the entire brains team to get eliminated asap except perhaps for the chess player who at least seems to have a sense of humor.

And sorry but I never got the impression that an open forum was some strategic decision on Garrett's part. He was just tired and hungry and didn't want to be bothered with all the secret conversations, since he thought the decision was obvious. Just terrible playing on his part.
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02-28-2014 , 02:10 AM
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I'm going to want to do everything (LJ): Really loves horses. Bartends for 50 year old women. It's easy to puppeteer them. Ideally he'd like to align with an older woman and a younger woman. Figures to get a good idea early on whether he will be able to handle this or might drive himself nuts. Control freak. He's going to win because of all of the crap that he's been through. Has a hard time finishing things if he doesn't feel creatively challenged. Has worked in finance, so he's practiced in screwing people over. Estimating the number of horses he could buy with a million dollars. Maybe he will start a Horse bar.

I possess this special quality (woo): Most drawn to Survivor by the social aspect and the physical challenges. Game was made for him. Climbing coconut trees and doing physical challenges. Mental will power aspect...he has it. All kinds of people train for Martial Arts. Here to win a milly. Dream is to own and host his own tae kwon do studio. Dad is his hero. Tae kwon do champion in several weight divisions. Close between whether Woo loves martial arts more than LJ loves horses.

I was an NFL cheerleader (hootie): Oh gosh. She thinks she's so cute. I want to punch her in the face. (She is so cute, natch.) Playing Survivor to find out who she is. It's a journey. Competitive dance...you have to work as a team even though you may not like them. Used to people being mean to her all her life...like mean girls. She will give more than she gets. Went to a private Catholic high school, and the authorities there weren't thrilled about her being a NFL cheerleader her senior year of high school. Guys loved it, girls hated it. She ate lunch alone because no one wanted to eat with the NFL cheerleader . Always finds a way to get what she wants. People have a tendency to think she's a stuck up brat based on looks. She will work overtime to show people she is nice and sweet and can be trusted. She sees herself being villainy.

I bridged the gap (uncle cliffy): Have always been a big fan of Survivor. Grew up camping and fishing. Being a former NBA player could hurt him, but that's part of the game...seeing if you can maneuver in the game with obstacles. He's approachable, and people generally feel comfortable with him. NBA teams are always looking for someone to take your place. In Survivor, you have to fight to keep the people aligned with you from going over to the other side. Played vs. Magic, Bird, Jordan, O'Neal, Kobe, LeBron, Carmello...bridged the gap. Was able to relate regardless of his age positioning with his teams. This game is not easy. "I know that." Odds not in his favor, but if he can establish a good footing right from the beginning, he thinks he can do well.

I love nerds (J'Terrible): omg. "It's my job to control the spread of nuclear weapons into the wrong hands and to ensure the spread of peaceful nuclear energy." Was originally in Navy ROTC as a 17 year old. Spent some time on a nuclear sub. Slept between two missle silos and the sub was powered by nuclear power...it was so cool..."I want to blow $#1% up, maybe. Or maybe stop people from blowing things up." Loves all kinds of nerds...movie nerds, car nerds, it's all interesting. She used to be a tom boy. Learned how to be cute in college...it's like another tool in her tool box. Convinced she is going to build a great shelter. She's awesome at puzzles. "I will own you at puzzles." Mentally, competing on Survivor is not as tough as getting a PhD. Also, not as tough as being around the sorority bitches. Loves her family.

every decision is a business decision (kass): oh gosh...She owns her own law firm. "I bank on the fact that the men in my profession are chauvinist pigs and they are going to look down on me anyway. And I've done well doing that. ...you can't have an ego...a woman with an ego is called a bitch. A woman who has confidence is successful. ....and you have to be able to take the insults, take the condescension, which there's a lot of...and I think those skills of being able to sit there and nod my head and smile when somebody is blowing smoke up my ass...those are going to serve me well here. I can look at the pretty buff boy and say, gee those are big muscles, I've never seen somebody up close with these big muscles. And I just made his day...it's so simple." (mmm, men maybe don't have the market cornered on the condescension) She is ruthless. Thinks she is well suited for the game. Will be a bit of a floater if she can. She doesn't like these first day alliances where all the cute people go sit in the water and play footsies. Not generally a naggy person, but can be snarky at times...will have to keep that in check. Actually does appear to be an animal handler...so that wasn't a lie and she has stories to back it up. Won a 7 figure lawsuit with her first swing in a trial situation.

chess is like Survivor (spencer): Does sports. Runs cross country and plays ultimate frisbee. Not as competitive as he was in high school, but likes to stay active and fit. Not much of an outdoorsman. Won 6k in a chess tournament. Class A division. Thought chess was for nerds at first, but ended up loving it. LOL. Obviously people are not chess pieces. They have feelings and thoughts of their own. but a lot of these people look dumb enough that maybe they are chess pieces. I can treat a lot of these people as pawns if they are not thinking about the game the way they should be. It's an asset that he has a baby face. "I don't think anyone here is as strategic as I am or as intelligent as I am...I know no one here is as big a fan of Survivor as I am....so I don't think I really have any peers." Mit Romney is his hero. He embodies success. "I automatically think someone is a little less intelligent if they have a southern accent. I grew up in Georgia. I've been around these people all my life. When you go to elite colleges like the University of Chicago, the southern accents disappear." "All I care about is being strategic and playing a good game. As long as people are willing to reward a good game, I think I can overcome a lack of likability." Wants to win...the money is only bonus...wants the bragging rights. "If I lose the game it's going to be because I piss people off."
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02-28-2014 , 02:11 AM
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well played, sir
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02-28-2014 , 02:21 AM
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I feel like the 3 tribe setup is kind of unfair because the beauty tribe is by default going to be young and in shape. Which means it's really brains against 2 teams of brawn. And let's face it high IQ is not that big a factor in Survivor, solving these type of puzzles is not something only braniacs can do.

I like the cast so far but I want the entire brains team to get eliminated asap except perhaps for the chess player who at least seems to have a sense of humor.

And sorry but I never got the impression that an open forum was some strategic decision on Garrett's part. He was just tired and hungry and didn't want to be bothered with all the secret conversations, since he thought the decision was obvious. Just terrible playing on his part.
I think the tribes were fair enough, but if you are in a 6 man tribe and prioritize eliminating threats to yourself over keeping the tribe as strong and unified as it can be, the tribes can become unfair really fast.

The brains didn't donk through the first challenge because they were too old and weak. They were disorganized. Garrett is a specimen. They actually performed quite well in the physical part of the second challenge, and finished with a good lead on Beauty, then donked that away during the challenge portion.
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02-28-2014 , 02:36 AM
grunching

feel like i shouldnt even continue to watch this season

brains with the 3 weak women lol they better hope for a merge ASAP
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02-28-2014 , 02:38 AM
Hopefully Spencer is able to find the idol and use that to save himself. I feel like there is just so many possibilities if your in danger with an idol in a tribe of 4.
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02-28-2014 , 02:38 AM
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grunching

feel like i shouldnt even continue to watch this season

brains with the 3 weak women lol they better hope for a merge ASAP
My sister has already told me she doesn't want to watch anymore. Lol. Absolutely HATES J'Tia. Oh well, I'll never stop watching.
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02-28-2014 , 02:41 AM
i guess I wont either.

Rooting for Wutang I guess? Man I dont know...

wtf lol
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02-28-2014 , 02:43 AM
Lol. Wutang is it now!
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02-28-2014 , 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
grunching

feel like i shouldnt even continue to watch this season

brains with the 3 weak women lol they better hope for a merge ASAP
Look at it from their perspective (Tasha and Kass). The tribe had already lost 2 challenges so they literally can't lose another one without avoiding being down in numbers at either a merge or tribe swap. So that's unlikely give their performances. If they lose another challenge then they put their fates into Garrett and Spencer's hands and the remaining one is always going to be 3rd.

Now after cutting Garrett the two of them are most likely to be the last two on the tribe and the precedence is that they will then go on to the other tribes to form 2 tribes of 7. Tribes that haven't been able to get rid of conflicting members for 2 weeks. Potentially those tribes are both going to have two people on the outs both with idols (Morgan/Brice, Tony/Trish) which is pretty much a dream scenario.
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02-28-2014 , 02:57 AM
No. I want my Garebear in the game. **** the horrible nuclear bomb maker and weak ass lawyer. Tasha is cool though. More of Morgan's boobs. Think I'll watch the premiere again. Right now.
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