I know a lot of great shows get even better on rewatch, but Succession especially is such a great rewatch.

This article cites podcast interviews that confirm the chronology.

https://time.com/6272360/succession-timeline-season-4/

Honestly not too sure it was the right way to go, it does feel too limiting, but I’ll have to see it play out.

Also thought they did an amazing job on a technical level of having the actual ATN election night coverage constantly running in the background. The graphics and snippets of conversation from the broadcast that were constantly playing on screens or being cut to for just a moment, felt completely authentic. Must have been tough to pull off... they practically had to film 2 totally different shows and edit them together.

Agree this show has great rewatch value. So many lines you can miss on first viewing. First time through I missed Roman saying to Shiv something like "oh why, what did he promise you? Unlimited social security forever with this one weird trick?" Funny line but they come so fast and furious it's easy to miss.

I did think they could've done a better job separating roman's motivations for why he wanted Menchen to win. His reasoning is more just about power/transactions but it seemed like they tried to pull a little last minute roman is on the R team, shiv on the D team with kendall in the middle just to make it a little more dramatic but roman hadn't really shown any political leanings prior to that. Almost like it was for no other reason other than it just felt right for the partisan climate we're in.

I think it is generally to create a political friction between the siblings that one had to be D (Shiv), one had to be R (Roman) and then you have Kendall who leans left but can go right if it suits his interests. I think they had to do this particularly because Shiv comes from a very strong politics background before this whole presidential storyline.

I thought they did a pretty good job of showing that both Roman and Shiv supported their candidate strictly because it helped them with the power grab. Thought it was pretty obvious that neither Roman or Shiv actually believed a single thing they said that last episode when they were arguing politics, just pushing hard for the guy who gives them the most power.

Also, Roman wants the Menchen D and he’s damaged enough to maybe give a little back. Finally lol

Yeah and Kendall was the casting vote and his look of uncertainty the whole episode of which way he was going to go played into the suspense

they were def both pushing to win for their side, but those are the sides that they've been on since season 1 probably. shiv's long been talking about cleaning up the company and taking it in a different direction, and roman's just never really given a **** about anything. and kendall's always been a wishy-washy bitch in the middle. he is a bad person, and a bad father. **** him

Top notch! Just a great episode with multiple peaks.

“Daddy’s here”

Lol

Evil Ken ftw.

I hope they don’t just go full - “Ken unleashes inner killer and becomes his dad but is all alone in the end.” That would be an OK ending, but too formulaic for my taste. Something else please.

Agree with that; replicating the ending of Godfather II is just too uninspired for a show like this. I wouldn't outright hate it, but I expect I would be underwhelmed.

Was never quite sure what the path to Greg getting to the top would be, but I damn sure do now!! “Hey Sexy!!”

I wonder if they keep the 1 day per episode for the finale. Would be kind of the perfect way to end this show with every possibility at its peak possible’ness and CUT

I did get a very weird feeling when they were showing the series finale preview. Just thinking next week is really it and the last episode with all these characters.

The real American CEO Greg the mfing egg

I'll put that down to Mylod why Roman didn't die at the end (he said in an interview before it is his job to keep the characters together) but he is now completely Kendall at the end of season 1 and Kendall is now Logan after that speech.

I'm also ok with the ex-wife and kids storyline as whilst it is a bit unbelievable that they wouldn't go Kendall needed that conflict in his character to eventually get the top prize at the end of the season.


Greg coming in on the conversation with the president was just a subtle play by the writers to give Shiv and Mattson their equal turn at him to set us up for the finale and not knowing which way the deal will go. Greg also had to get that request in with Roman at the service for it to all fall into place and Greg just had to be his usual awkward self.

And just on Ewan - I liked his speech and I thought it was a good way for him to go out but feel he'll have one last say in the boardroom where the final showdown between Kendall and Mattson will be with Roman next to Kendall and Shiv next to Mattson.

“He always spoke highly of you. You were one of his favorites.”

Lol seat sniffer

Finally a good ep. I'm sad that it'll be over next week, but honestly I don't think they've had much to say or much to offer in terms of storylines for quite a while. Good call pulling the plug now.

I'm guessing they'll lose the company and somehow Menchken ends up owning all of their asses somehow.

This prediction after Episode 8 worked out pretty well, so I'll take a crack at the finale.

The finale is set up as Kendall v. Shiv, with Shiv appearing to have the inside track.

But Shiv has a blind spot, and that blind spot is Tom. Tom's recent conversations with Shiv show that he truly hates her now, and with good reason. She has humiliated him at every turn. But Shiv can't make herself see Tom as a threat, even though he ****ed her once already at the end of Season 3. In her eyes, he can never be formidable.

Shows of humanity are never rewarded on this show. When Shiv asked Logan to spare Tom in Season 2, Logan's conclusion was that Shiv was unfit to run the company because she wasn't willing to plunge the knife all the way in. That's why huge red flags go off for me when I see Shiv again showing a bit of humanity to Tom in the penultimate episode when she tells him to rest in their apartment.

Mattson wants whoever he names as an American CEO to be a puppet. But would Mattson really want a Roy to be that puppet? It almost guarantees that he would have to spend the rest of his corporate life sleeping with one eye open.

I think the board is going to approve the GoJo deal based on a representation that Mattson will name an American as CEO. But there is going to be some reason why he can't officially name Shiv until the merger goes through. And after the merger goes through, Mattson is going to name Tom as CEO. He's the perfect puppet. He proved that in episode 8 when he dutifully followed orders from Kendall and Roman about precisely when to call the election. And he is more aligned with Mencken politically than Shiv will ever be.

So in the end, the family totally ****s it and loses control of the company.

I like it. Tom has always been a bit secondary to the siblings, but doesn’t make storyline sense for him to just vanish, and he was pretty non existent during the last ep. What was he doing all day while missing the funeral? Didn’t really explain it.

And why is he so tired? It's because he has spending 20 hours a day for the last few days playing both sides.

The main problem with this theory is that Shiv is pregnant with Tom's child, and we have been led to believe that having a child with Shiv is very important to Tom.

But I think having a child with Shiv was was a higher priority for Tom when Logan was still alive. The moment Logan died, it became less important to be part of the Roy family.

I’m thinking he wasn’t there as a misdirection for Logan. Brian Cox was on set that day so outsiders wouldn’t put 2+2 together. They went with the biggest character to be gone that they could.

Ken is such an awful Dad. but that was effed up what Rava did. liberal lizard brain is amazing.

and boss. no sympathy for Jess tho. she hitched her wagon to a more fascist Fox News and now wants to act like its all so appalling.

wonder what Tom was doing all day. obv some sort of dirt.

Menchken is an idiot if he doesnt go with Roman. like, ya lets turn a massive news agency against himself.

Hard to argue with this.

Or this.

But I don't buy this. Mencken arguably needs to maintain a decent relationship with ATN, but there are multiple ways to do that without "going with Roman."