100% the only show that was better as a rewatch imo was arrested development - there's so much stuff you miss the first time around

The recap was awesome.

The Greg and Logan roast had me in tears laughing.

That roast could’ve gone on for hours and I’d been there for every second lol

yeah i was mad that wasn't longer


some really good stuff in this, and also some of the worst stuff they've ever done maybe with some of these jokes

like 5 times my eyes were rolling out of my head wtf

I’m not being horrible. I’m being fun!

I think it's silly to try and make us feel bad about Tom and Shiv's marriage, as that has always been a disaster in the show.

But I enjoy the show...I liked Greg's date saying she asked Logan for a selfie and then Tom's reaction.

Did you rummage to fruition?

I like how they gave Greg a tan. I've also enjoyed reading how Brian Cox likes to make fun of Jeremy Strong in interviews for his method acting.

yeah i don't get what they're doing with shiv, at all, ever. unless the point is supposed to be that she's the literal worst, somehow


actually seeing that scene would have been roughly 1000x better than hearing it described

Solid premiere. As is customary with this show.

I'll want more, but 4 seasons is going to be perfect.

really impressed with episode one, man are they flying at breakneck speed this season

and once again they really nail the subtleties of the upper crust, when you grow up in a house where your parents can pickup the phone and call the president you develop a certain confidence that shows itself in not just posture and swagger but even choice of words - like you'll notice people who grew up under normal upbringings don't use the unnecessarily flowery and indirect manner of speaking, greg & tom will say they have a headache whereas one of the roys wouldn't say it directly and instead use some random word where we're forced to figure it out from context like they'll say "i'm having a moment"

i've said it a bunch before but it bears repeating, i've had a lot of interaction with generational wealth by going to prep school so it's part of my network to this day, this is the first show i've ever seen that accurately depicted these people instead of just being a caricature of what a middle class person would imagine life would be like if they had more money - like i have no doubt that a show like entourage accurately depicts how hollywood people who grew up poor and middle class and are suddenly rich and famous will act, but the problem is that "entourage mode" is the typical default setting for depicting people who grew up rich and that's an entirely different species

you'll see the only time any of the roys are worried about brand/luxury is the very first scene with kendall where he's putting on branded sneakers in the belief it'll make him fit in with these normies he's going to meet with - when you can afford everything none of it is important anymore

this is especially well done at logan's party

One of the things I love about this show are the hilarious throwaway lines that are sometimes barely audible. Like when they were discussing their new website "The Hundred", I think Roman says something like "Its clickbait, but for smart people", or something like that. So many of these tossed-off lines are golden. They do such a great job of parodying all the meaningless business speak of the tech bros.

Agree also that this show really does a fantastic job of portraying the banality of being uber-rich. It must be odd to live in a world where literally nothing impresses you. Like last season when they visited Matsson in Italy... his house was one of the most stunning things I've ever seen. But you could see that Roman, Logan, and Mattson himself could care less. They don't even notice the view or the setting.

That is really the heart of the show imo. Ultra rich people who are motivated by the same exact petty emotions and grievances as everyone else. All of the Roys are clearly miserable, and all of their money and power can't change that.

hell no, just imagining Logan's reaction is so much better lol

I think 4 seasons is good, storyline kinda just goes round and round at this point

I like the show but more than 4 and you become Billions imo


I always thought Kendall was the best character on the show, but the way he just fell hard last season, I'm not sure what more you can do with him. Shiv and Roman just don't have the depth to be the main foils to Logan. Without Kendall as the flawed protagonist, I think the show is gonna be spinning in circles a bit.


Dialogue/scenes are still great but can't deny how repetitive it has all become

It feels to me Logan will change his mind and try to cancel the sell. This way, he gets his petty revenge over his kids (who don't have funding anymore) and the Pierces (who don't have a buyer anymore and are forced to come back to him begging).

Also his whole demeanor during the first episode was that of a man who thought he would/should be really happy and yet is deeply unsatisfied. I can't see him proceeding with the sell.

And I still think Greg wins it all at the end, I'll die fighting on that hill

yeah for all the terrible things logan does, he oddly seems to respect greg more than any of his other minions, when greg told of the handjob he didn't tell greg to leave but just wanted the girl to go and it was probably just a "good now i have an excuse to get the selfie girl out of here"

greg was then the only one to really go at logan with a roast and hit hard with the "where are your kids"

obviously logan didn't handle it well but didn't go beyond that response about gregs dad and then moved on to watch as nobody else dared to say anything

remember in earlier seasons when greg strictly ass kissed logan didn't even want greg to finish the drink he had when he came over, just wanted him gone and had earlier done boar on the floor stuff with him and now greg is getting handies and saying his kids hate him he's actually far kinder

“I will answer to Craig or Greg.”

“I am going by Gregory now.”

No way this doesn't get some sort of prequel, right? I realize it's not the ratings juggernaut of GoT or even Breaking Bad, but it seems like there could be so many ways to make a prequel in terms of focus and years covered.

thought tonights ep sucked, we're in Ozarks season 4 territory here if this keeps up

Roman's character is too repetitive and dull to be the man in the middle, he's the same in every single scene, who cares what he thinks or does

Kerry Haircut lady as a semi-central character sucks. It’s like trying to do some kind of meta show-in-a-show thing with her by acknowledging that she sucks as a character and is getting shoved down our throats just like the audition tape thing. She has like five lines the entire previous three seasons and now we’re supposed to be into her throwing down the one-liners on Greg? And why the **** does Logan, the most ruthless unfeeling dude, want her input on stuff? Like she bones Logan and now she’s a business genius? Just very internally inconsistent.

I didn’t really understand why the Matsson call made Kendall want to tank the deal? He just got pissed off?

I actually like Roman as the guy who deep down just wants his family to actually be a family and think there’s a lot of depth to the performance there.

Connor is a doof, but they’ve also shown him as being somewhat perceptive about everyone’s motivations and moves overall.

have not ready any of this thread, just wanting your score on this series out of 10 overall

i might give it a go based on 2+2 verdict.

+1

plus this is literally a robert california plotline from one of those seasons of the office that sucked ****

like why was she even in that meeting with logan and the kids, and why didn't anyone tell her to **** off? lol


i think the quality is overrated (but i could be wrong), but it's worth watching just from an entertainment perspective

good characters, very funny show

~8.5/10

I think it is an excellent show simply in terms of LOLs per episode, and in how quickly each episode moves.

From a plot perspective it's just OK but the rapid-fire dialogue makes it a must-watch imo.

Probably overpraised, certainly not up there with the best HBO shows but solid. 8/10.

Yeah my interpretation is that Logan is realizing how old and lonely and almost-dead he is, so it makes him show weakness. Like the scene in the diner with his bodyguard... he has no real close friends and has alienated his entire family, so perhaps someone like Kerry can manipulate him now, where in the past he wouldn't allow it. Agree the whole plot line with Kerry is dumb and she is not an interesting character. If they were going to give a bit character a plot arc I would rather it had been Jess, who I at least find sorta interesting in the few times she's on screen.



I read it as Kendall realizing that Matsson calling him to tell him not to blow the deal was a sign of weakness, in that Mattsson definitely wants the deal to go through and so would probably be willing to pony up more money.

Yeah I am surprised to see some comments that seem to be tiring of Roman. I think he does a fantastic job with a character that could easily become a parody (I'd say cousin Greg has gone over that line already, although he's still funny). I'm honestly more tired of Kendall and Shiv at this point, they risk becoming one-note. Like we get it, they hate Logan and will sabotage their own deal for Pierce to screw over their father. I like Roman and Connor better because at least they seem conflicted. And Roman actually seems like a potentially good businessman, unlike his siblings.