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09-26-2009 , 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dmisfh1
Really good stuff Baltimore Jones. Thread saved.
See? THAT is the sort of thing I was looking for. Was that so hard?
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09-26-2009 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by daryn
i think i've only seen it once, but that one where christopher sees that white trash family at the gas station, i thought he was just thinking about how adrianna couldn't have children.
Adriana La Cerva: There's something you should know. A long time ago, years ago, I had a medical procedure. It was before we met. My uterus got pierced.
Christopher Moltisanti: Both of 'em?
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09-26-2009 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by supafrey
Wait which one earns you more OOT points these days, I'm trying to learn the heirarchy:

1) providing a cool subtle moment
2) poopin on someone for the moment not being subtle enough
3) poopin on a pooper for pooping on everybody
4) arbitrarily siding with whatever side of the semantics argument has more OOT vets/loudmouths?
I'm going with:
5) categorizing the previous posts in a thread in a noncommittal way that implies you are above it all.

Or maybe its:
6) creating a new category which lumps even the guys who categorized the previous posts of a thread in a noncommittal way in with the rest of the generic masses, thereby putting you a full 2 levels above it all.

Either way, I'm thinking we both just earned some serious points!
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09-26-2009 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
Hitchcock did this 40 years earlier, when Cary Grant is about to nail Grace Kelly on a train in "North by Northwest". It was a big deal in those puritanical times.

If it wasn't for that, then yeah, what you mention is exactly what I'm looking for ITT.
Interesting, didn't remember the Hitchcock scene, but Chase certainly did.
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09-26-2009 , 10:42 PM
Sorry guys, OP and Baltimores posts are examples of way more subtle moments than most of the others listed.

Last edited by 27offsuit; 09-26-2009 at 10:45 PM. Reason: mine excluded, tee hee
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09-27-2009 , 12:39 AM
Op getting hated on way too had
good job OP and balmore jones
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09-27-2009 , 12:45 AM
Re:From Where to Eternity (one where Bevilaqua kid gets popped)

Eight minutes into the episode, Christopher's heart stops, indicating that he has died. After the doctors resuscitate him, they tell everyone waiting outside Christopher's operating room that he was "clinically dead for about a minute." Adriana requests to see Christopher, but the doctors indicate that he only wants to see Paulie and Tony. When Paulie and Tony see him, Christopher tells them "I'm going to hell. I crossed over to the other side. I saw a tunnel, and a white light. I saw my father in hell. And the bouncer said that I'd be there too when my time comes." Paulie asks him "What bouncer?" Christopher replies "The emerald piper. It's an Irish bar where it's Saint Patrick's Day every day, forever."

Later, Tony tells his psychiatrist, Dr. Melfi, that Christopher was clinically dead for about a minute, and describes Christopher's alleged experience in hell. Dr. Melfi asks Tony "Do you think he'll go to hell?" Tony responds "No. He's not the type that deserves hell." Dr. Melfi asks "Who do you think does?", to which Tony responds "The worst people. The twisted and demented psychos who kill people for pleasure...the degenerate bastards that molest and torture little kids. They kill babies, the Hitlers...those are the evil ****s that deserve to die. Not my nephew."

Still later in the episode, Paulie visits Christopher in the hospital in the middle of the night. Paulie asks Christopher "That bouncer that sent you back, did he have horns on his head?" Christopher answers "No. He was just some big Irish goon in old-fashioned clothes."

In a conversation between Paulie (clearly concerned that he is going to Hell) and Tony (dismissive of Christopher's experience), Tony asks Paulie "Do you eat steak?" Paulie then asks "[what] the **** ya talkin about?" Tony says "If you were in India, you'd go to hell for that."

Tying-up all of the symbolism in the episode, the final 13 minutes include the discovery of the location of Christopher's shooter, Matthew Bevilaqua. Tony says to Big Pussy "Give me one," indicating that he wants a gun, and that he wants to be involved in the hit on Matthew Bevilaqua. Big Pussy says "You don't have to do this, Furio and me are on it." Tony smiles and says "I wanna do this", indicating that Tony will get pleasure out of killing the man who attacked his nephew Christopher. The scene cuts to a Hacklebarney State Park snack bar where Tony and Pussy have tied up Bevilaqua, and beaten-up; Bevilaqua was shown with several bruises and cuts. During the interrogation, Bevilaqua is frightened, shaking, and on the verge of crying the entire time; at one point, he urinates in his pants and it is shown dripping down his ankles. When Tony is done tormenting and intimidating (ie "torturing", in Tony's words) Bevilaqua, he and Pussy treat Bevilaqua like they were best pals, with Pussy offering a Diet Coke soft drink to Bevilaqua. After quaffing the soda, Tony tells Bevilaqua that it was his last drink that he will ever have, bringing the incident to a cruel turn. Tony holds a gun up to Bevilaqua's head, and Bevilaqua calls out for his mommy, begging Tony not to kill him. When Tony shoots him in the head, Tony has become everything he despised, epitomizing those who deserve hell. Pussy and Tony then shoot Bevilaqua several times in the chest, to make sure he is dead. A few moments later, Pussy and Tony are shown in an Irish Bar containing much of the color green; this "Irish bar" could also be thought of as hell. Behind Pussy is stained glass, and 2 curved blue pieces of the glass appear to come out of Pussy's head, as if they are horns. Tony and Pussy are also eating steaks - something that Tony said would send an Indian person to hell.
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09-27-2009 , 12:53 AM
Wow, I just watched that episode last week. Holy ****, is that a lot of subtle.
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09-27-2009 , 01:39 AM
Veeery nice dude113. Can't wait to watch the series again looking out for similar subtext. Might be another year or two before I do it though.
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09-27-2009 , 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dude113
Re:From Where to Eternity (one where Bevilaqua kid gets popped)

Eight minutes into the episode, Christopher's heart stops, indicating that he has died. After the doctors resuscitate him, they tell everyone waiting outside Christopher's operating room that he was "clinically dead for about a minute." Adriana requests to see Christopher, but the doctors indicate that he only wants to see Paulie and Tony. When Paulie and Tony see him, Christopher tells them "I'm going to hell. I crossed over to the other side. I saw a tunnel, and a white light. I saw my father in hell. And the bouncer said that I'd be there too when my time comes." Paulie asks him "What bouncer?" Christopher replies "The emerald piper. It's an Irish bar where it's Saint Patrick's Day every day, forever."

Later, Tony tells his psychiatrist, Dr. Melfi, that Christopher was clinically dead for about a minute, and describes Christopher's alleged experience in hell. Dr. Melfi asks Tony "Do you think he'll go to hell?" Tony responds "No. He's not the type that deserves hell." Dr. Melfi asks "Who do you think does?", to which Tony responds "The worst people. The twisted and demented psychos who kill people for pleasure...the degenerate bastards that molest and torture little kids. They kill babies, the Hitlers...those are the evil ****s that deserve to die. Not my nephew."

Still later in the episode, Paulie visits Christopher in the hospital in the middle of the night. Paulie asks Christopher "That bouncer that sent you back, did he have horns on his head?" Christopher answers "No. He was just some big Irish goon in old-fashioned clothes."

In a conversation between Paulie (clearly concerned that he is going to Hell) and Tony (dismissive of Christopher's experience), Tony asks Paulie "Do you eat steak?" Paulie then asks "[what] the **** ya talkin about?" Tony says "If you were in India, you'd go to hell for that."

Tying-up all of the symbolism in the episode, the final 13 minutes include the discovery of the location of Christopher's shooter, Matthew Bevilaqua. Tony says to Big Pussy "Give me one," indicating that he wants a gun, and that he wants to be involved in the hit on Matthew Bevilaqua. Big Pussy says "You don't have to do this, Furio and me are on it." Tony smiles and says "I wanna do this", indicating that Tony will get pleasure out of killing the man who attacked his nephew Christopher. The scene cuts to a Hacklebarney State Park snack bar where Tony and Pussy have tied up Bevilaqua, and beaten-up; Bevilaqua was shown with several bruises and cuts. During the interrogation, Bevilaqua is frightened, shaking, and on the verge of crying the entire time; at one point, he urinates in his pants and it is shown dripping down his ankles. When Tony is done tormenting and intimidating (ie "torturing", in Tony's words) Bevilaqua, he and Pussy treat Bevilaqua like they were best pals, with Pussy offering a Diet Coke soft drink to Bevilaqua. After quaffing the soda, Tony tells Bevilaqua that it was his last drink that he will ever have, bringing the incident to a cruel turn. Tony holds a gun up to Bevilaqua's head, and Bevilaqua calls out for his mommy, begging Tony not to kill him. When Tony shoots him in the head, Tony has become everything he despised, epitomizing those who deserve hell. Pussy and Tony then shoot Bevilaqua several times in the chest, to make sure he is dead. A few moments later, Pussy and Tony are shown in an Irish Bar containing much of the color green; this "Irish bar" could also be thought of as hell. Behind Pussy is stained glass, and 2 curved blue pieces of the glass appear to come out of Pussy's head, as if they are horns. Tony and Pussy are also eating steaks - something that Tony said would send an Indian person to hell.
Wow I've read all of the ones in here and most of them have been terrible/borderline ******ed, but this one is spot on. I went back to check it all out...here's a screen cap

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09-27-2009 , 04:06 AM
dude113: Awesome!
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09-27-2009 , 04:19 AM
Is there some sort of master list of this kinda stuff out there... I guess not

great stuff dude.... How you even go about noticing that is beyond me but I think it's really awesome
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09-27-2009 , 04:59 AM
All credit goes to wiki

Pretty mind blowing stuff nontheless
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09-27-2009 , 10:12 AM
This thread has me reading Sopranos deconstructions all over the web now.
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09-27-2009 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dude113
All credit goes to wiki

Pretty mind blowing stuff nontheless
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
This thread has me reading Sopranos deconstructions all over the web now.
How about a couple of links, fellas? Or some copy/paste examples? Thx.
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09-27-2009 , 01:15 PM
If you really want your mind blown by an episode full of symbolism, check out this write up of the last episode, done by noted Jeopardy champion and author of Prisoner of Trezbekistan (a great book btw) Bob Harris. Pretty much singlehandedly changed my opinion from Tony wasn't whacked to that he was.

http://www.bobharris.com/content/view/1406/1/
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09-27-2009 , 01:57 PM
damn, now i need to find someone with the dvd's to borrow.
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09-27-2009 , 02:41 PM
I quit renting the DVDs, because I can never find any commentary tracks.

The complete box set has commentary tracks, but it costs like $300. It's on my wish list, as in, "I wish I had $300 to blow on it right now."
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09-27-2009 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
This thread has me reading Sopranos deconstructions all over the web now.
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
How about a couple of links, fellas? Or some copy/paste examples? Thx.
Yea me too. I've been reading some stuff on a forum I found and there's a ton of stuff they've out there.

http://thechaselounge.net/forumdisplay.php?f=45
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09-27-2009 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 040
If you really want your mind blown by an episode full of symbolism, check out this write up of the last episode, done by noted Jeopardy champion and author of Prisoner of Trezbekistan (a great book btw) Bob Harris. Pretty much singlehandedly changed my opinion from Tony wasn't whacked to that he was.

http://www.bobharris.com/content/view/1406/1/
i've read it, didn't change my mind. it doesn't matter if tony gets whacked or not.
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09-27-2009 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
I quit renting the DVDs, because I can never find any commentary tracks.

The complete box set has commentary tracks, but it costs like $300. It's on my wish list, as in, "I wish I had $300 to blow on it right now."
I see it in the Amazon marketplace new for $140.
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09-27-2009 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Triumph36
i've read it, didn't change my mind. it doesn't matter if tony gets whacked or not.
thanks for your helpful contribution.
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09-27-2009 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
How about a couple of links, fellas? Or some copy/paste examples? Thx.
Check out 'Tony's vicarious patricide' first...
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09-30-2009 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Triumph36
i've read it, didn't change my mind. it doesn't matter if tony gets whacked or not.
can you elaborate?

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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
i liked the author's writing... i was enjoying it until the end when i thought the Christopher = Johnny argument was poorly developed and the Heidi bit seemed a huge stretch. Meh, still entertaining.

somebody else in the forum posted this as a response to the tony whacked blog:
http://hearthehurd.typepad.com/hear_...tony_died.html

it is probably the worst counterargument column i've ever seen: "Bob Harris says this.... but nahhhh i dk about that" x50
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12-19-2009 , 11:30 AM
bump, pretty worthless one at that, but -

in the episode where meadow wants to obtain speed so she can stay up to study for the SATs, she's also in the choir and sings the song 'all through the night'.
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