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09-25-2009 , 03:46 PM
shut up plz.
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09-25-2009 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Baltimore Jones
Quick note about the finale here, violating OP's rules. One of the Lost creators recently stated in an interview that Lost would have a conclusive finale that wraps everything up tidily. He contrasted this to the "black-out" ending of The Sopranos, saying that the Lost finale would not be like that. He did add, "I thought it was brilliant, by the way".

The hilarious thing is that he clearly does not have a clue what the ending means or how brilliant it really is (if he did, he would be praying that his ending could come close), is saying that he thinks it was brilliant because he thinks he's supposed to, and in the process is admitting that Lost's ending will have NO subtlety and that everything will be VERY plainly spelled out for everybody. Sounds about right.
Really disagree. Ending Lost with a Sopranos style ending would be a total fail. Lost is one giant mystery - it needs a concrete ending. Ending the Sopranos that way is fine b/c the show is character based, not plot driven.

They're two totally different shows. I guess you just wanted to take the opportunity to **** on Lost for whatever reason.
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09-25-2009 , 03:59 PM
Symbolism should replace Subtle Moments, because that's what we're really talking about.

Last edited by 27offsuit; 09-25-2009 at 04:29 PM. Reason: and people can't get past 'subtle'
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09-25-2009 , 04:27 PM
When Furio knocked that guys hat off while he was playing golf.

"You gotta bee on a your hat!"

It looked like he was doing the guy a favor by keeping a bee from stinging him, but he was actually trying to intimidate him. Sometimes I think they only brought Furio over to be a hired goon.
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09-25-2009 , 04:39 PM
the mullet guy one was cool and what i like about the show... but it wasn't subtle

the ferry/ empty bowl

mayonaise on the face.... if your not openly looking for symbolism these could easily slip by... the mullet guy is in your face

I guess i don't watch closely (or analytically enough) to notice things like the mayonaise or even the empty bowl let alone the ferry.... anyway keep up with your original posts im sure most readers like them, even tho people like franchise like to start a thread by insta trolling
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09-25-2009 , 04:41 PM
and seriously the vito thing... kind of dissapointing... like some 50's sitcom when all of a sudden theres a new darren
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09-25-2009 , 04:42 PM
the interior decorator his place looked like sheet line in pine barrens was probably the funniest line IMO
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09-25-2009 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by THAKID
the interior decorator his place looked like sheet line in pine barrens was probably the funniest line IMO
That whole episode is my second favorite hour of TV ever. It was brilliant.
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09-25-2009 , 04:55 PM
this thread (besides the OP) is why OOT is growing ever more terrible by the day
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09-25-2009 , 05:11 PM
"The thread is obviously asking for fun facts/small details about the show"

Please explain to me how you get that from the OP?
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09-25-2009 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
Oooh, his just reminded me of one.

There was a scene I can't say exactly, but Vito is in bed with Jonnycakes or something and they're talking and the scene cuts right before they go at it and it cuts right to a train entering a tunnel in the side of a mountain at about 60, replete with horn.

I lol'd
Hitchcock did this 40 years earlier, when Cary Grant is about to nail Grace Kelly on a train in "North by Northwest". It was a big deal in those puritanical times.

If it wasn't for that, then yeah, what you mention is exactly what I'm looking for ITT.
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09-25-2009 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mxp2004
I'm positive that it is Big Pussy in the reflection.

I've never seen anything written about this. I can't believe that I'm the only who has noticed it.
We all noticed it. None of us thought it was a big deal. Sorry.
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09-25-2009 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
We all noticed it. None of us thought it was a big deal. Sorry.
You're really gonna get snippy with someone for making an honest effort to go along with your horrible OP and borderline ******ed examples, while everyone else didn't bother to do anything but mock you?
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09-25-2009 , 05:59 PM
got any more cool symbolic stuff... the ferry and bowl is cool imo... just keep going... i wish i had any but i'm just not observant enough
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09-25-2009 , 06:08 PM
Wait which one earns you more OOT points these days, I'm trying to learn the heirarchy:

1) providing a cool subtle moment
2) poopin on someone for the moment not being subtle enough
3) poopin on a pooper for pooping on everybody
4) arbitrarily siding with whatever side of the semantics argument has more OOT vets/loudmouths?
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09-25-2009 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dibbs
You're really gonna get snippy with someone for making an honest effort to go along with your horrible OP and borderline ******ed examples, while everyone else didn't bother to do anything but mock you?
I tried to be as unsnippy as I could be. How would YOU point out to the poster that not only wasn't he the only one who noticed, but that it was so obv that nobody found it remarkable?

People have pointed out that some of my examples were just as obv, and were able to do it without crapping on me. My intent here was the same.
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09-25-2009 , 07:17 PM
Towards the end of season four (starting as far as I know with the aforementioned Ralphie death episode), there were a lot of references to a mysterious "9-0-7" and the Divine Comedy.

The episode begins with the line "ladies and gentlemen, that concludes the presentation of evidence." So, we've seen enough of these guys, and now it's time for the punishment to start being doled out (note that this did not necessarily work out to as swift a downfall as Chase may have intended, since they kept adding seasons/episodes). Then, Junior is on the courthouse steps (in the middle of his trial) being swarmed by the media. Somebody accidentally lowers a boom microphone onto his head (literally having "the boom lowered" on himself, Ralphie, and the Sopranos as a whole), knocking him down the stairs. A reporter remarks "Corrado Soprano has just fallen down nine - no, seven steps" (nine-no-seven).

That episode in general represented what at the time felt like a tonal shift - it was depressing and powerful and dark in a way that prior episodes had not been, and it really felt like it was the beginning of the end (again, perhaps muted by the fact that the number of episodes was stretched out).

There is absolutely some sort of meaning with "9-0-7", because a couple of episodes later, Tony wakes up to a digital clock reading 9:07. There was a lot of talk about the meaning of this at the time on Usenet (you can find the archives on Google Groups). People were speculating about the 7th and 9th circles of Hell (sins of violence, sins of betrayal), checking line 907 of Paradise Lost: "On those proud Towrs to swift destruction doom'd" (the season was the first post-9/11, the influence of which is discussed in further depth elsewhere), etc. It was fascinating stuff.

When Tony wakes up to that alarm clock he is in a Florida hotel. He stumbles into the bathroom, turning on the red heat lamp (Hell). Then he walks outside to the balcony, and overlooks a gorgeous resort beach and pool with trees and greenery all around (Paradise). Cue Surfing U.S.A, cue credits. Maybe he's in Hell and can look at the promise of Heaven only from his balcony?

Furio also gives "Maedo" a gift that season - The Divine Comedy.
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09-25-2009 , 07:26 PM
Great posts Baltimore.
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09-25-2009 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by dibbs
Great posts Baltimore.
+1

wow
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09-25-2009 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dibbs
Great posts Baltimore.
+2
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09-25-2009 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
Hitchcock did this 40 years earlier, when Cary Grant is about to nail Grace Kelly on a train in "North by Northwest". It was a big deal in those puritanical times.

If it wasn't for that, then yeah, what you mention is exactly what I'm looking for ITT.
I didn't watch the Sopranos, but Hitchcock did that with Eva Marie Saint in North by Northwest. In "To Catch a Thief," Grace Kelly and Cary Grant are alone in a room and the cut is to fireworks outside their window.

Whew. I feel so much better now that I've gotten this taken care of.
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09-25-2009 , 09:07 PM
lol at op thinking his are any more subtle than the other guys

any person that has seen any of these episodes more than once (and has half a brain) will have noticed all of the things itt
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09-25-2009 , 11:13 PM
i think i've only seen it once, but that one where christopher sees that white trash family at the gas station, i thought he was just thinking about how adrianna couldn't have children.
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09-26-2009 , 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by daryn
i think i've only seen it once, but that one where christopher sees that white trash family at the gas station, i thought he was just thinking about how adrianna couldn't have children.
Before he sees them, look at the way he's looking at his SUV. He's practically petting it, like a beloved horse that needs to be put down.

The car definitely represents "the life", and the trailer trash shows him where he would be without "the life".

(But I had never considered Ad's infertility, so I can't completely dismiss your post, either.)
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09-26-2009 , 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Baltimore Jones
Towards the end of season four (starting as far as I know with the aforementioned Ralphie death episode), there were a lot of references to a mysterious "9-0-7" and the Divine Comedy.

The episode begins with the line "ladies and gentlemen, that concludes the presentation of evidence." So, we've seen enough of these guys, and now it's time for the punishment to start being doled out (note that this did not necessarily work out to as swift a downfall as Chase may have intended, since they kept adding seasons/episodes). Then, Junior is on the courthouse steps (in the middle of his trial) being swarmed by the media. Somebody accidentally lowers a boom microphone onto his head (literally having "the boom lowered" on himself, Ralphie, and the Sopranos as a whole), knocking him down the stairs. A reporter remarks "Corrado Soprano has just fallen down nine - no, seven steps" (nine-no-seven).

That episode in general represented what at the time felt like a tonal shift - it was depressing and powerful and dark in a way that prior episodes had not been, and it really felt like it was the beginning of the end (again, perhaps muted by the fact that the number of episodes was stretched out).

There is absolutely some sort of meaning with "9-0-7", because a couple of episodes later, Tony wakes up to a digital clock reading 9:07. There was a lot of talk about the meaning of this at the time on Usenet (you can find the archives on Google Groups). People were speculating about the 7th and 9th circles of Hell (sins of violence, sins of betrayal), checking line 907 of Paradise Lost: "On those proud Towrs to swift destruction doom'd" (the season was the first post-9/11, the influence of which is discussed in further depth elsewhere), etc. It was fascinating stuff.

When Tony wakes up to that alarm clock he is in a Florida hotel. He stumbles into the bathroom, turning on the red heat lamp (Hell). Then he walks outside to the balcony, and overlooks a gorgeous resort beach and pool with trees and greenery all around (Paradise). Cue Surfing U.S.A, cue credits. Maybe he's in Hell and can look at the promise of Heaven only from his balcony?

Furio also gives "Maedo" a gift that season - The Divine Comedy.
Now this, this needs to be quoted. Really good stuff Baltimore Jones. Thread saved.
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