I don't think attracting younger viewers is needed when there's such a large existing fan base. Maybe in 20 years when most of that fan base are closer to the grave .. ya , but not now. What we need now is a continuation of the awesomeness of DS9.

I would personally hate to see a series based in Starfleet Academy. The last thing I want is a Beverly Hills 90210 version of Star Trek.

Andrea also didn't have that raw sexuality Noel had, while planting the suggestion when Kirk was in the chair. She was more the doe eyed innocent trying to figure it out. But like all good Trek girls, she had heat.

I always imagined each planet in the Federation had it's own academies so their ships were mostly of their own race. It's modeled on the UN amirite?

The Star Trek movies from 79-late eighties were all pretty good but after that I think they started to increasingly suck as the years went on.

Actually it seems like most ships are modeled after the Enterprise with a few exceptions like we've seen in DS9 and the movies.

I'm sure there are probably more academies then on Earth alone but as I mentioned in another post it seems the whole exploration of the other members' technology and ships hasn't really been explored much.

I have a hard time believing every single race in the Federation would stop using their own tech. and model all their ships to the same design , even visually.

First Contact was good.

I'm rewatching TOS these days. I'll be posting more pics. Seems like there's one hot babe in each episode though. Could take me a while

Star Trek: Academy would potentially crush Enterprise for the consistently rated worst Trek of all time. Its like taking the worst parts of Ensign Crusher and making an entire series about it.

they probably did, but Starfleet, whose headquarters was on Earth, was the military/scientific branch of the Federation. So while Vulcan had the Vulcan Science Academy, which would have pre-dated the Federation, it would not necessarily align its technology or operations with Starfleet.

The floating city Stratos, in The Cloud Minders, was a technology the Federation didn't possess. If that planet had become a member of the Federation, maybe there could have been a sharing, or not.

The woman from "The Omega Glory" isn't probably in my top 5 but there's something to be said about barbarian women wearing fur mini skirts and tank tops.

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The Cloud Minders' Vanna was pretty fine.

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Not saying that a Starfleet Academy series would be the best thing ever, or that I would love it, but done right it could be very good. Obviously none of us want to see something that resembles 90210 with aliens. And Wesley Crusher was a terrible character -- I would like to believe that any new Trek series might learn from previous mistakes.

But if the series was set in the 26th or 27th century, we could have humans begin to explore time-travel, parallel universes, and other new frontiers in science. Maybe show the Federation as having lost some of its clout throughout the galaxy. Maybe have the Borg subjugated into mankind's servants. Maybe the Breen are the big dogs in the yard. Who knows? Maybe even a method of travel superior to Warp Drive!

We could possibly follow a group of students through the Academy as they break ground on these new frontiers, kind of learn as they learn, and follow them through holodeck simulations until they're given a ship of their own after a season or two.

I think that a retread of DS9 or TNG would just turn viewers off. They've been done well already. Trek's fanbase is pretty old and hard-to-please, so drawing from a younger fan base would be critical. And I think you guys might be overestimating the loyalty of the hardcore fans. I consider myself to be at least fairly deep into the franchise, and I still couldn't stomach Enterprise and barely had an interest in Voyager. A new series would have to be much more compelling than either of those for me to get invested in it.

Do you forget that a good portion of the new movie was set at SFA? And with the huge success of that movie, the near future would be the time to strike a chord with fans by releasing a new series.

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Being a hardcore fan doesn't mean you'll like every series. I'd consider myself a hardcore fan and I thought Voyager and Enterprise were fairly bad too. Voyager sucked because it was pretty much TNG in the Delta Quadrant without many interesting characters. Most were under developed and boring to say the least. If I see another Neelix type character in a new series I'll pretty much drop it on the spot.

I just don't think the potential for conflict and action in a series based in Starfleet Academy would be very promising and those are the elements that made DS9 so good.

And using the elements of a show that made it entertaining isn't really "retreading".

And obviously if the writing is good enough , and the characters are well developed any concept can succeed but I think using Starfleet Academy would make that very difficult.

Your other ideas are appealing. A more futuristic setting where things may have changed dramatically in the Federation. It might be difficult but having the series focused on more than one Starship would be interesting if they can pull it off.

Also giving antagonists more screentime to develop them is always a good thing in any show I've seen. DS9 succeeded on that front. If half the show included screentime for the major antagonists I'd be happy.

I think DS9 should be the model for the next series in terms of how it developed characters and the villains as well and included tons of action which included numerous factions.

A show taking place on Starfleet Academy would just not be able to do that easily or not at all. I don't want to see rivalries between cadets in SA as a major focus of a Star Trek series.

Maybe they could track a class of cadets make their way onto their first assignment by season 2 or 3. Heck sci-fi now virtually demands the dang story arcs that last one season.

Sounds like its a big decision whether to cater towards the traditional fan base or try to rope in John Q Public.

I don't have too much confidence TV execs , for cancelling Firefly alone they should been put to the torch

Even they can't ignore the obvious I would hope. A well written series with character development will succeed. If they concentrate too much on eye candy to the detriment of those it will fail. As much as I like fleet battles if you don't give a rat's ass if the main protagonist's ship gets destroyed ... then it has no impact. Hell , I was hoping Janeway would die at some time during Voyager ... if she did I probably would have been more interested in the series.

I really do think ST needs to evolve with the times though. It needs have a darker tone which is why I agree with most suggestions that portray a Federation in a more chaotic state , and the quality of the writing and character development has to be improved when compared to Enterprise and Voyager.

Not sure if any of you watch "Justified" but it's a relatively simple concept about a U.S. Marshall exiled to his hometown in Kentucky after a shooting incident in Miami , supposedly one of his many "shooting incidents".

Seems like a fairly "done before" concept right? But it's a gem of a series because of the writing , characters and dialogue. If the TV execs think just stamping on "Star Trek" onto a pile of manure like Voyager will do the trick .. then even I'll be done with it.

I'll just rewatch DS9 for the 3rd time and the latter seasons of TNG for a 3rd time and maybe read some of the more acclaimed books if there are any.

From what I've heard of those who might be potentially involved in a new series .. it does seem they are going for quality but a quality producer with a somewhat proven record doesn't necessarily involve quality writing.

The new Star Wars movies were evidence of that.

All the hippie chicks in "The Way to Eden" were pretty hot as well. Those outfits didn't hurt either. Like in most TOS episodes the women wore some pretty revealing outfits. The least attractive was the brunette we don't see much of , couldn't find a decent shot of her and my fav was Checkov's former girlfriend. Gotta love that fake Russian accent



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To be fair to the Academy idea the episode where Crusher's unit was under investigation because someone died slingshotting round Jupiter (going from memory, it was something like that) had a lot of potential. Half a dozen characters flying small faster fighter style shuttles is a generally interesting idea. Its basically what the entire new Battlestar is banking on and it was some of the most interesting parts of the BSG reboot series.

They just need to come up with a good reason to transfer that training to an actual battle. Introduce some new enemy that gives a good reason technologically why fighting with small ships is better than big ships, such as there being a new range war where they have a weapon similar to what was on a Voyager ep where it was like a torpedo that has their own shielding defences and are warp capable so the torpedo would just warp into the area, get a fix on the target and hunt it down creating a huge cat and mouse game where the current vessels cant just run, but they also cant easily stand and fight as it exceeds their design parameters but they have some kind of flaw that can be exploited engaging them at short range.

Base the little ships on the Delta Flyer, attach them to a normal Starfleet ship that has been retrofitted with a larger shuttle bay and a command bridge redesigned to reflect how it would be commanding these ships and set them free to hold back the enemy and find out who they are and where they come from. Its new ground isnt just that they are an aircraft carrier instead of a battleship but it would be the first title ship in the Trek series that is specifically designed for war instead of exploration, something which could be a sub story within the show as it would be controversial within the Federation.

Word. Just rewatched that last week.

I would watch a ST series set at the academy in a heartbeat.

But then again I've also thought a TV show based on following a group of privates from basic training into the Army would be killer if done well, and at worst could be a militarized version of 90210 or the like. Basic training is like hazing, and then once you get into the regular Army it's similar to college in a lot of ways with young kids getting into all kinds of shenanigans.

It would be called "Private Lives", ldo.

The witch woman in "A Private Little War" is definitely in my top 10 list.




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Pretty cool article on Grantland about TNG's 25th Anniversary, in case anyone's interested -- http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...ation-turns-25

One thing that really surprised me was that in its heyday TNG was pulling in as many viewers as American Idol. Wow, I had no idea.

That's really good considering it was a syndicated show.

Q is one of my favorite TV characters of all time.

Gonna pick up this Q DVD one of these days.

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Honeys from TOS.

I watched "Deathwish" last night, the Voyager episode of the Q who wants to commit suicide. Although preachy, the Qs were/was funny as always. It was the offbeat characters like Spock, Data, Q, Voyager Dr that gave the writers a license to crack whatever jokes they could write and still keep the story believable.

Your reply to me was 17 months after my post, so I shall return the favor, replying to this 15 months later...

Story is way more important than acting and special effects. Acting being sometimes borderline terrible is standard for all TV in the 20th century and special effects just aren't that important, as long as they're not pulling me out of the moment to laugh at them.

Just started watching TOS for the first time. Loving it.

I'm a dozen eps in and agree thus far.



Andrea was not bad either.



QFT.

Realized who this was almost immediately. Just one of those faces.


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Thought she looked great angry, murderous, messed up hair, etc.