Actually, it's Captain's Pike's thing. Picard stole it.

wow! i loved it! i had super low expectations, but the lead is great! she is doing a great job acting, and her character is good.

the white man captain is a good actor. i've seen him in other stuff. the asian woman captain is terrible.

a lot of ridic fake stuff about the show, but who cares about that... i certainly don't. good characters and good stories are way more important.

i didn't mind the long scenes of subtitled klingon. it made it feel more foreign/alien to me.

the weird alien who senses death is a good actor too. i don't think i've ever seen him, but he's doing good work. his character is pretty ridiculous, but i like him anyway. i like the way he respects and likes the lead, but he still told her she sucks ass when she was apologizing to him.

You wouldn't recognize him from it, but he played Cochise in "Falling Skies"

i never saw falling skies. was he good in that? i'd be surprised if he wasn't.

I liked the character, the Volm (aliens who were also fighting the Espheni - the alien race that had invaded earth) commander in s3-5

Now that I've associated the actor, I recall some mannerisms and vocal pacing in Cochise that are similar to those of Saru in this show.

our hero, michael, set her phaser to kill and killed the klingon leader because she was angry, right? if she had kept her cool she would have just stunned him and taken him captive, right?

that part wasn't as clear as they usually make things on tv for the masses.

Is the CBS streaming service the only legal way to watch this show?

In the US, I believe so. I believe outside the US, it's on Netflix

signed up for the free trial to watch the end of the first episode, forgot to cancel after a week, well played CBS.

Don't single out CBS. That scenario is pretty much SOP for all "free" trials.

Yeah but this is the first time I'm aware of where they aired the first half of a show on free TV and then cliffhanger you and make you sign up for the free trial if you want to see the ending. Groundbreaking!

FWIW in the British Navy the captain calls his XO 'Number One', whereas in the American Navy they usually call them 'X' or 'XO'.

Not sure how the former found its way into STTOS way back in the day though.

Yeah that is how I took it, especially since she was the one saying killing him is a bad idea and would make him a martyr.

Was a little on the subtle side compared to in your face network tv style.

This article rage tilted me. I'm really not digging having to read subtitles of a gibberish language for 5 minute intervals

Did it feel inauthentic in Hunt for Red October? It did not! Did it feel inauthentic in Star Trek III-VI? It did not! Did it feel inauthentic in TNG or DS9? It did not!

Also, inauthentic? THESE ARE FICTIONAL ALIENS FFS! THEY DO NOT EXIST!

YOU ARE NOT TRANSLATING ANYTHING, THE LANGUAGE DOES NOT EXIST.

http://www.indiewire.com/2017/09/sta...on-1201880882/

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i think the subtitles are a good decision; they add some foreignness to the characters and create a further divide between good and bad.

i think if the klingons spoke english, the whole getup would come across as very camp and silly

digging the show so far

I am a pretty big fan after 4 episodes. I can see why hardcore trek fans might not like it but I love not sitting through 7 stand alone story lines to get a touch of substance.

Don't care at all about the Klingons speaking in Klingon, but do think the scenes drag on forever to seemingly little purpose.

Rest of show is pretty good. Did not like

For me the issues are tied together. You can't create dramatic tension in a scene when the actors are crippled by a language they can't emote in and a facial prosthesis that makes their expressions unreadable. Can anyone tell any of the Klingons apart? I mean there are the darker ones and the albino ones. But I've been trying to pay attention and I'm not sure who the Klingons are or what they want. Or how many of them there are.

The fact they're speaking in a fictional language wouldn't be so bad if the language sounded at all plausible. Game of Thrones' made-up languages have a realistic flow, quite possibly because linguists developed them. When Dany speaks in High Valyrian, you can detect the inflections and emphases so can get a sense of her emotions. It's not so different from watching a movie in a genuine foreign language.

In contrast, Discovery's version of Klingon sounds like a bunch of random grunts and noises thrown together. There's no sense of structure or rhythm. Coupling that with overly heavy prosthetics that kill all facial expressions results in Klingons that fall flat.

This show is a miss imo. Had some potential but they ruined it by trying to be too dramatic and (as usual with the modern Treks) not capturing the essence of the original series.

4/10 (at best) and I'm out.

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Nothing to add but still a big fan. Probably means it will get cancelled on a cliffhanger after season 2, as with most shows I like.