This is what I meant earlier about the Abel storyline. It feels like it will 100% head that way. The actual branch didn't impale the kid, and the blood (if it doesn't turn out to be something ridiculous like juice) was coming from near his foot or leg. Obviously I might be nitting it up about the position of the branch and I wouldn't hold it against the show if they said it did impale him. I just doubt the kid is dead.

I need to stop DVR watching this show, I end up skipping like 60% of it.

Plus, they need someone to drive the van.

Why doesn't he take Piney's Trike? It's been for sale since last season.

He probably hasn't earn the right to ride along side them yet?

Also LOL at the fat biker stuff.

Which brings me to another point they seem to be setting Phil up to take Juices comic relief spot

fat phil is a full member, he votes at the table...

I miss Tacoma. Too bad he exploded.

I wasn't implying he wasnt ?

The end of that last episode had me saying "O COMMMONNNNN". That's enough...passing out at the wheel with kids in the back? Seriously? **** off.

I'm having trouble accepting this Gemma falls asleep at the wheel thing as plausible.

I was always under the impression that Charming was a small town, and that Gemma's house and the clubhouse were both in Charming. So how far apart could they be? 5 minutes? 10 minutes?

Yet here is Gemma driving on this lonely stretch of highway, in the middle of nowhere, with no other traffic on the road (except for the one big rig she almost has a head on with), and for so long she can't keep herself awake.

I'm not buying it.

I think by being a full member and sitting at the table means he has earned the right to ride with them. Why they never show him doing it, I have no idea. He always drives that damn truck.

correct.

I have a hard time with the Gemma thing too. I get people here were talking about being very tired after having a hectic cpl days, but the scene looked to me like they were putting a lot of emphasis on her smoking dat joint which is super bull**** since she smokes alllll the time and never had any issues.

I don't remember it well, but I think Juice always drove the truck in S1 too. Just something the new guy does? And it doesn't seem like they have any prospects right now.

I thought the scene was meant to show her stopping. She put the joint out after getting the call, rather than finishing it. I wouldn't be surprised if somebody did something to make Gemma pass out.

great observation.

I honestly think 2+2 could make the greatest television show to ever be on television

too many motorcycle chase scenes for me

def not how I saw it.

fyp sir

I'm sure the nits will be out in force but I thought this was a good episode. I like where the show is headed.

Stock,

I thought the juice/clay convo was super unrealistic, but besides that thought it was pretty good. I like stone cold badass jax.

I loved the first 2/3, but the stupidity of the Clay plotline is getting really grating

So at this point the President, VP, and Sgt. at Arms have all heard a confession that directly implicates Clay being behind everything and still that's not enough proof?? What the **** do you need exactly, a taped confession and contracts signed between Clay and the nomads?

And not to mention, the "table" is Jax, Bobby, Chibbs, Happy, Tig, Phil, and Juice...3 of the Sr. members heard the confession, Tig is under the thumb of Jax, who the **** is going to dissent exactly?

And the thing is, Jax needs Clay alive to deal with the Irish, so if he couldn't kill him then he probably can't do it now. But after already being aware of what exactly Clay is capable of, it's just really dumb writing (I know I know we need the drama tho) to still continue to let clay run wild unchecked.

no words for that scene, just ridiculous on so many levels

the whole point of the last season and this season was "clay I have all this **** on you and I am going to be president now and if you have a problem I will tell the club about the letters, about how you killed my dad, and tried to kill tara, how you killed piney over the letters and how you beat gemma. so deal with it"

And now they are running around like chickens with their heads cut off to find new justification to bring to the club to have clay offed? Even if they couldn't get jack **** about this nomad stuff they STILL have enough over clays head from last season:

- They have the letters
- They can have the testimony of gemma knowing about the letters and knowing how piney was killed and why tara was attacked
- They can have the testimony of tara
- They have the testimony of jax's half sister in ireland who knows about the letters and can back them up
- They have the testimony of uncer knowing about the real reason piney was killed
- They have jax's word which they would obviously be inclined to believe

But forget all that. Instead it's "Man, we really need to bring something to the table to let everyone know how bad clay is! Too bad we have absolutely nothing to bring to the table right now! Gemma, go be a spy!"

This show is so ****ing dumb and so tilting. I can't believe I watch this, the writing is god awful.

Oh yeah, and the hospital doesn't do a simple drug test on gemma and not instantly let the club know she was high?

uggggggh

This was the most irritating episode I can remember.

I agree with exo.

I thought they had been pretty clear that they need Clay for the Irish deal. Jax saying they need 'evidence' is just stalling so whatever plan he is working on can play out.

I didn't mind the ep.

This isn't even nit-picking; seriously, apparently to get anywhere in Charming you have to drive on the road with the steep, foliage-ridden embankment next to it.