They took his kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid man.

I would say for a few different reasons. First of all, Jax wants to make sure he knows EVERYTHING there is to know before he takes this matter to the table, if he does end up taking it to the table of course. He wants to be positive there is not going to be any back fire from it. And until the end of this last episode the RICO case could have been brought back at any point, which means he needs Clay since the IRA will only deal with him. Lastly, Jax now sees a way from benefiting from the death of Clay. Who is against Charming Heights the most? Clay. Who does Jax insist is the ONLY investor in Charming Heights? Pope. If you make the investor go away, you'll make the project go away. And what happens when someone kills Pope? The person to kill the murdered receives 5 million dollars!

Plus, so far the only actual evidence of Clay's wrongdoings are the letters from John Teller. And those letters are nothing but J.T.'s suspicions that he may be killed by Clay. There still isn't proof of it.

Wow, you ALMOST made a good point there but overlooked something. Jax isn't that stupid. Think about it. Clay hates the idea of Charming Heights. Put Pope in the middle of it, and Clay will probably try and kill him. Then Jax kills Clay and gets 5 million for doing it!

Despite everyone who is going to disagree with this, I think "Crucifixed" was a great episode! I'm also going to get brave and say that so far, it is the best season so far and I'm sure that the season 5 finale will be just as good, maybe even better, as season 3's. It seems like Jax is just running around and raising Hell in Charming, but all of season 3 it seemed he was causing Hell for himself and we all know how that turned out.

Here's a few of my theories:
Clay's secret gun will play a big part this season! There was way too much emphasis on the gun and the say Juice picked it up the way he would if he was shooting it. This left Juice's fingerprints all over it. Whether Clay is using this gun to kill Jax or somebody else, blame will automatically be placed on Juice. If it is Jax, since Juice became an informant and Jax found out, it would seem like Juice would have a good reason for it. Another way the gun could be used is to frame Juice's suicide, since I'm sure Clay knows Juice is working against him and Juice has tried to kill himself before.
Clay gets back at Juice and/or Gemma! They're being fake, and unless they end up confessing, they'll face the wrath of Clay.
Clay found a way to contact Otto and helped form the plan! Something like this happening to the wife of the club could put Jax in a situation to step down or be forced out of chair at the head of the table. And let's not forget that when Tara was making Otto's gift box, Clay walked in and saw what she was doing.
Any chance of Tara's sanity returning left as soon as the crucifix entered that nurse's neck! Let's just face it, she was already going crazy. But this and the event's to come will lead to her being checked in to a mental health institution or death!
Pope will die! Everyone else involved in Opie's death has been dropping dead, why not the mastermind? But Jax of course isn't stupid enough to do it on his own. So he sets up the Charming Heights deal to only have one investor, Pope. We all know Clay isn't against the development, so killing the only investor would make it go away.
Jax kills Clay! Of course, we've seen this coming for so long! And we've been waiting for it even longer! If my first theory is correct, not only does Clay get the satisfaction he needs from the death of Clay, but he also receives 5 million dollars for killing the murderer of Pope!
Something's up with Margaret Murphy! Definitely more than just Tara's boss... still affiliated with another MC or an informant, who knows! But she has her secrets!


Definitely a long post, but had to throw my ideas out there to someone. Of course, I was totally wrong about season 3 and that could be the case with some or all of these. We'll just have to wait and see!!!

Shield Spoiler/SOA Thoery

not to flog an already overdead horse but man oh man did that scene tilt the **** out of me.

Yeah, if only they had Gemma to confirm the story. Or Tara to confirm Clay put a hit on her. Or one of 1000 other things that someone who is alive could testify about in the room.

Maybe it's been too long since I've watched The Shield, but:

The Shield spoiler:

If Jax kills Pope in the season finale then all of next season is Jax running away from thise killers I'm going to be pissed.

The gun was just one of a few and a real nice gun. Tossing it in a crime compared to the others they showed wouldn't seem like the right choice. Using it in a crime would be extra dumb also because the grips have the Sons logo on them.

If the gun does come into play, the way Juice almost fell in love with it makes it seem like Clay will tell Juice something along the lines of "thanks for all your help, anything I can do for you or give you?" And Juice will bring up the gun. Burning himself and Clay will probably play it off and give it to him talk about the gun or whatever. That will let him know Juice was snooping around.

Or Juice will want to hold it again and get caught by Clay. I just don't think the gun will be used in a crime. These guys are in CA with threaded barrels in their pistols for suppressors just the barrel in the gun is a crime, add the suppressor and shoot outs in broad daylight yet they rarely change guns.

I don't get how that would help at all. A club decision, especially one as big as this one will be, can't be based solely on the testimony of non-members. Tara and Gemma are nothing more than old ladys, not Brothers. Plus, the fact that Tara is the wife of the NEW president won't help either. And neither would having your mother back your story after Clay beat the snot out of her. Jax needs cold hard proof.

Also, other than the one time Tara came into Church during Jax first time sitting at the head of the table, no one other that members of SAMCRO are allowed in there. I could be wrong about this one though.

damn that was brutal from otto... wtf...

not that many 100% innocent citizens get murdered that brutally on tv...

That's why SOA, Breaking Bad, and The Walking Dead are my three favorite shows. It's more real-life. Where the innocent die just as frequently!

No one watched tonights episode?

I have like no clue whats going on anymore.

Me neither but I enjoyed the episode alot. Wish all episodes were 90 minutes or 2 hours

This season is comparable to a fat chick who starts to lose weight and starts to look good, then gets fat again. Not great for an episode or two then shows some hope of getting good and right when you think its going to be a great show again (or the fat chick is going to be hot) they don't hit the potential and slopes downward again. These last two episodes better be great or it will probably be the last 2 I watch.

not sure exactly why but I enjoyed this ep

I haven't watched last weeks episode or this weeks, and I won't watch them unless I hear pretty good word of mouth about the next two. This show is not worth my time imo (and I have a lot of it!).

Poor Nero.

Who is that guy going after Otto and Tara?

Dunno - other than he has nothing 2 do w Rico they r keeping it in the dark , IMO they r setting things up 4 next season w that character

Somebody in the writer's room is on bath salts.