I'm not sure how people can complain now that there aren't any more "good guys" to root for when practically from day 1 there never has been.

The only club members I ever sympathized with were Piney and Opie and Bobby .. and Jax to some extent just because Clay was 10x more devious. I've never really thought of Jax as "good" or a sympathetic character despite his attempts to make the club legit.

I still enjoyed the show despite the moral ambiguity of it's main characters , I thought most people had come to terms with that a long time ago. Don't see how anyone can have gone through all these seasons thinking that somehow the club despite being the protagonists are somehow the "good guys".

well Jax is the protagonist, and he has generally bounced between "guy who you genuinely root for" (when he was trying to take the club legit) to "morally ambiguous you still hope succeeds". I get he wasn't always an angel.

but now he has turned into straight up psycho with no goals other than the destruction of a club that didn't commit the crime he thinks they did. and he'll kill anyone that helps him get there without remorse.

it's not even close to what he used to be. there is still some chance he is long conning his club and the audience...but doesn't look that way

Nobody, huh?

This show has just fallen off a cliff.

Can someone ban this guy from smiling?

What is that?

I just hope smiley makes it.


and no one else.

Was that a montage free episode?

I noticed Theo Huxtable (Malcolm-Jamal Warner) in the credits but didn't see him in the episode.

He was one of the grim bastards

All,

Worst part of yesterday for me was when I looked at my dvr and it said 1h17m for the episode. Ugh, so dumb.

Worst (or better, least understandable) part for me was Juice being way too vague to Chibs and giving up way too easily.

He was in the background once or twice and had 1 small speaking part.

Haha I've always liked that character in his minimal role for some reason. Leader of the 9ers by default and he's held his own.

the purple plot line sort of lost me. Sons are playing the (3?) groups of black against each other? which group of black was in the van at the end?

9ers

The grim bastards were in the van and they are not part of the 9ers. The 9ers was one group who split into two. August isn't directly a niner but he is like the street boss of all gangs I think

this show is ****ing train wreck and I once was one of its biggest fans

Best part of the episode was juice meeting chibs at the diner - the same diner Art went badass in on Justified I'm pretty sure

fyp

The quality of acting had never been what made this show good but comon now...

I found 2-3 scenes almost unwatchable. And i'm bad at watching TV.

i think my prediction was pretty good.

Im half watching this show because I've put in so much time already itd be a waste to give in now. If someone could be so kind to remind me why exactly juice is on the run in the first place? And who are all these black people? I know there's august and the 9ers but wtf was that last scene? And why in gods name would anyone still be in this stupid club. Really looking forward to this being over.

Juice told Nero that jax killed that lady. And the grim bastards are somehow allied with the sons. Have been since early in the series. They haven't teally explained it I don't think

Juice is on the run - gives us the scene in the diner. It reminds us that great TV will soon be on fx in January. Otherwise you're correct.

Gracias

damn... ****'s going down.

Yes it is.

And damn, that was a lot of stupid for one episode. Even with the crazy stuff that happened.