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04-19-2024 , 08:12 AM
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Yeah, showrunners have said the season is a complete story and there are no immediate plans for S2. Clavell wrote several other historical novels set in Asia, so maybe they'll adapt one of those. I think Shogun was easily the most successful though.
I re-read the entire Asian Saga a few years ago, so I'd be in on that.

Of course, there couldn't be a cliffhanger is they did that as Tai-Pan, the next in the time line, takes place 240 years after Shogun and that's set in Hong Kong, not Japan.
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04-19-2024 , 09:42 AM
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Great episode. Yabushige is such a mother****er but you can't help but like him and his ability to survive. Should be lots of Emmy nominations from this show with the actress playing Mariko and the actor playing Yabushige at the top of the list. Can't wait for the finale. It's been a great show with just about no filler.
Yeah took me a minute to figure out what Yabushige was up to.

Masters of the Air and this were true works of perfection in the limited series category this past season.
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04-19-2024 , 10:24 AM
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I thought Shogun was a book series and not just a single book. That does change things.
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04-19-2024 , 11:46 AM
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Yeah took me a minute to figure out what Yabushige was up to.

Masters of the Air and this were true works of perfection in the limited series category this past season.
Masters of the Air had some really good moments, but overal it wasnt that great imo. Certainly not compared to BoB and The Pacific.
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04-19-2024 , 03:55 PM
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Masters of the Air had some really good moments, but overal it wasnt that great imo. Certainly not compared to BoB and The Pacific.
I'd argue it might have been the hardest of the 3 to make convincingly. But yes it was the weakest of the 3 (which is still high praise).
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04-23-2024 , 07:41 AM
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and so far toranaga is smarter in the book... like with the whole jail thing...

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toranaga sent blackthorne to jail, planning on getting him out the whole time. he sent him there with the plan to have him educated by the monk(who was spanish and would never ever ever help an englishman. so in the book he was blind and assumed blackthorne was spanish, but in the show blackthorne just blurted out he was english)... but toranaga sent yabu to get blackthorne out of jail before ishido could kill him. and ishido was the one who ambushed them on the walk back, but the ambush failed because yabu fought them off. toranaga knew the whole time how valuable blackthorne was and wanted to protect him. he even had secret bodyguards in the prison protecting blackthorne... but in the show it was just blind luck that blackthorne wasn't killed and ended up back with toranaga


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Wasn’t that revealed later though? I just re-read the book and am pretty sure that we learn later on that Toranaga planned the whole thing / situated Yabu to be there under some pretense
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04-24-2024 , 04:25 AM
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Not my favorite episode. I hated Anjin in this episode. Really good show overall though.
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04-24-2024 , 02:00 PM
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I was a bookreader but forgot a lot of the details. Thought finale and show overall was really, really good.

Really refreshing to see a show like this without any handholding or over the top action scenes.
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04-24-2024 , 03:08 PM
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Yeah the way it wrapped without needing massive battles was pretty cool.

Just incredible acting end to end.

And yeah the Anjin was a bottom 3 character. But was good enough.
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04-26-2024 , 07:04 PM
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It was really really good and I really wasn't let down by the lack of a finale battle I was assuming would happen. I am sure Sun Tzu probably said something about the best battle is one you can win without fighting. Some elite acting as well
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04-27-2024 , 02:04 AM
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Great show, great cast with Yabushige and Mariko being my favorites. FX is the king of the modern tv era.
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04-27-2024 , 09:27 AM
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It was really really good and I really wasn't let down by the lack of a finale battle. I was assuming would happen. I am sure Sun Tzu probably said something about the best battle is one you can win without fighting. Some elite acting as well
Book spoiler if you're interested:

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There was a final battle, but the book relates it from a retrospective account. Toranaga gets the battle at the place and time of his choosing and crushes Ishido's forces. The direct quote from the book states "40,000 heads were taken."Ishido does not die honorably in battle, but suffers an extremely ignominious end."
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