I understand the conflict, but why was he so set on that particular building? Even Trevor seemed to be puzzled as to why it got so personal with Fiona. I just didn't understand why it escalated to a point where they were damaging her property and then she was destroying homeless kids stuff.

because it was perfect for them and he put a lot of work into renovating it so the homeless could live there. and because it was the only one until the end of the episode when Fiona found the other one (and that’s why it was eventually okay). but for the majority of their fighting, the church was the only spot available

I think the escalation was from what I originally said about how he wanted to be a hero to Trevor so he could win him back. I mean, let’s not forget he went to the philanthropist’s house and went down on the guy’s wife to get $ for this when Trevor thought it would be impossible. So then it looked like it was gonna happen until Fiona swooped in at the end and took it from him so she could raise the rent on her apartments. Trevor was puzzled but he didn’t know what Ian did to get the $ for it, and then it definitely became personal with Fiona but I don’t think that was unreasonable or uncharacteristic at all given what led up to it

I watched the first ep of this season, but im out. I've been following it since the pilot and season 1-4 were really really good. Since then its gone downhill, should have ended some time ago but season 9 already announced.. meh. Some characters I really dislike are ians boyfriend and the russian bartender.

Dominate kev is the funniest story line of this season for sure.

ya they have completely destroyed the russian bartender. she used to be a good character. this ford dude is terrible too with that complete dumbass look on his face at all times.

Frank punching a little girl is the hardest I've laughed at any TV show in years.

This was very well done.
But im sure there we some people outraged by it

Anyone else feel like last nights episode was the best so far of this season?

I feel like Ian is setting himself up for a huge fail. All this attention he is getting is gonna end up ****ing him up somehow.

Also in before lip bangs Lady Youens.

That's what I thought at first, but meh, not hot enough.

Great season, not a single boring story line.

that was the best episode of shameless in years.

FTFY

BIG call. How so?

I am enjoying this season but to say it's been the best episode for years is a bold statement.

I thought it was the worst of the season. I will say that I was pretty tired so I may have not have been in the right mindset. I found almost everything in the episode to be ridiculous even by Shameless standards. Debbie and her toe, Fionna and the squatters, and Carl and his increasingly annoying girlfriend just made me roll my eyes most of the time. That isn't even getting into Gay Jesus laying down in front of a van and then blowing it up. I did laugh out loud at Svetlana at the end of the episode when Kev asked her if that was a dead body.

ya, that was the only episode of this season that I thought was weak.

Ian is such a terrible actor. All those gay jesus scenes look clunky and choppy. Not sure if they are doing it all on purpose, would have to assume they are

He was pretty good in the earlier seasons, but there are times this season where he seems like he is playing a mix of Ian and The Joker.

He is great as the joker.

carls girlfriend is WOAT and ruined a great character

Frank coming out of the porta potty was the most disgusting thing I've ever seen

I don’t think she is as bad as Debs from a few seasons ago but it’s pretty close.

I was pretty disappointed with the last two episodes of the season.

Whatever happened to Lip the super genius. Laughed pretty hard at the Spartacus scene. The Svetlana marriage was ******ed. This season was just ok. Dunno where they're going with this show now.

Amazing show, very good season, good ending. Stop hating.

I thought the finale was pretty Meh, other wise pretty good season. Ian starting a cult, reminds me a little of Fight Club “I am Robert Paulson” and I a little of Walking Dead “I am Neegan”. But he loves it obviously. Fiona successfully settling for 3.8k obv a big win, and I knew Lip was gonna have the little girl stay with him. Thank god carl escaped for now. Liam selling frank out was expected but thank god Frank is back to his old ways for the sake of the show. Debs is worst character of the season imo.

I feel like Ian has been the worst one for quite a few seasons now. Close call though, Debs isn't far behind. Everyone else is awesome.

Deb is definitely WOAT, but yeah Ian took a major step towards challenging the throne this season.

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