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07-13-2022 , 11:25 PM
^ I think those ideas of analogies are way to compact and simple... I think they are rooted much deeper and even more distant in history.
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07-16-2022 , 10:37 PM
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I give up half way through the finale. Way too woke.
fozzy was mad todd gut punched like a bitch
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07-17-2022 , 01:47 PM
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I give up half way through the finale. Way too woke.
They actually kinda take the piss outa wokeism with the whole Brave Maeve thing and corporate hopping on the bandwagon culture with the Vaught theme park.
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07-19-2022 , 07:28 AM
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not succeeding in killing Homelander is not "not following through," as Homelander is almost impossible to kill. He's ****ing Superman.
Ironically, I think they're running into some of the same problems they've always had with Justice league; that they always have Superman to save the day if things go wrong. There was an interesting article about it here:

https://observer.com/2021/03/justice...avill-hbo-max/

specifically this: "(he) isn’t so much a character as a “Terminator Zombie” who exists solely to serve as deus ex machina for the physical scale of power tipping back in favor of the good guys"

while mentioning that in the comics: "Superman has always served as the moral compass of the DC Universe. His innate and unshakable faith in humanity and his willingness to help people simply because he can has always stood as a compelling check and balance against the Justice League’s inherent power"

The problem is worse for The Boys, because Homelander is the opposite of whatever being a check or balance is; like when he said to go ahead and release the tape of the airplane, and that if they did, he'd just raze the East coast to the ground.

The only thing that actually keeps him in check is his need to be loved (regardless of what he says), and if his supporters are now fine with him just murdering people, they are going down a difficult path to come back from since he becomes unchecked power and basically they have to kill him because no one can actually stand against him on a power basis and you lose the central villain of the show.
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07-19-2022 , 10:44 AM
Is it just me, or is the show really a metaphor for the powerlessness of the common man (Butcher, Hughie, etc.) vs. big government/corporate corruption? It would be awful to live in a world where there are real Supes, but it’s really no different than the real-world economy we live in now - for the vast majority of humans.
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07-19-2022 , 12:37 PM
Finally, homelander versus Soldier Boy... that was a great episode.
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07-20-2022 , 10:39 PM
spoilers;


Very good season but I feel they need to wrap it up by the end of next season as it's simply wearing thin. There's only so many times Homelander can escape defeat and a secondary villain take the fall for him.

Also, was anyone supremely disappointed with the way they took the Black Noir character? I almost feel sure he'll come back, because if not, that just seems like really bad writing.
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07-21-2022 , 02:05 PM
WOW... Ep 7 was great.

let these writers run free!
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07-23-2022 , 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Is it just me, or is the show really a metaphor for the powerlessness of the common man (Butcher, Hughie, etc.) vs. big government/corporate corruption? It would be awful to live in a world where there are real Supes, but it’s really no different than the real-world economy we live in now - for the vast majority of humans.
I think a better metaphor is communism. In other words, all the power residing in the hands of a small number of ruthless and increasingly paranoid individuals who claim to be acting in the best interest of the people.

Watching the supes politic is increasingly like watching the central committee in "Death of Stalin".
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07-23-2022 , 09:35 PM
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I think a better metaphor is communism. In other words, all the power residing in the hands of a small number of ruthless and increasingly paranoid individuals who claim to be acting in the best interest of the people.

Watching the supes politic is increasingly like watching the central committee in "Death of Stalin".
Haha What?

How is Vought not a showcase of all thats wrong with American Capitalism
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07-24-2022 , 03:56 AM
Vought clearly is the representation of American capitalism.

However, the point explicitly being discussed was the relationship between the Supes and humans.
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07-24-2022 , 08:27 AM
Ah ok I see what your getting at
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07-25-2022 , 04:19 AM
Once of the compelling things about the show is its apolitical cynicism. It takes aim at the left, right and liberals, and it does so in a very intelligent and often amusing way.
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07-25-2022 , 12:15 PM
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NO SPOILERS PLEASE... I am only halfway thru season 2
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Finally, homelander versus Soldier Boy... that was a great episode.
You spoiled it for me i hadn't seen that episode.

Jokes aside thoroughly enjoyed this season and show in general.
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07-25-2022 , 01:10 PM
wait until you see sea3 ep8
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07-29-2022 , 07:53 PM
I've highly enjoyed the show for a while but it really jumped the shark toward the end of s3. Writing has gotten wayyy too far up its own ass.
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07-30-2022 , 12:45 AM
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Once of the compelling things about the show is its apolitical cynicism. It takes aim at the left, right and liberals, and it does so in a very intelligent and often amusing way.
Agree with this. It’s pretty hilarious that people get offended by a show that hammers both sides.
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07-30-2022 , 09:15 AM
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I've highly enjoyed the show for a while but it really jumped the shark toward the end of s3. Writing has gotten wayyy too far up its own ass.

I kind of agree that Starlight has outlived her usefulness...
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09-23-2022 , 08:47 PM
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09-24-2022 , 12:29 AM
Lol.. he's into beaks...
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10-03-2022 , 08:57 PM
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Great episode! They are pretty liberal with the source material but it works. In the comics iirc...

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Herogasm was a bit more of a deal; each year there was some cover story why ALL of the hero teams had to fly off to some remote island, and even the VP came visiting.

Also all of the Boys where on permanent V from the get-go, either by circumstance like the female or by choice. And head-popping senator wasn't a thing.
Yeah i was surprised the herogasm was such a throwaway gag. Really funny concept and they got in and out of that story relatively quickly
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10-03-2022 , 09:08 PM
I thought they had a responsibility to kill a big character at the end of s3. You just cant have this much violence with everyone surviving all the time.

I could live without Butcher.
Killing Maeve would have been a weak death and they even wussied out of killing her.

I thought what they did with the Noir character was really senseless.

As much as you can say “it’s not your typical comic book show”, it kind of still is and it’s for the worst imo.
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10-04-2022 , 12:20 PM
They introduced and promptly killed off a million interesting characters in season 3. While committing to let the same boring people continue to stagnate.

The lamplighter, blue hawk, the doppleganger, everyone on Soldier Boy’s original team. Gone too soon
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10-04-2022 , 01:26 PM
maybe you should ask the producers if you can write for them...
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10-04-2022 , 01:30 PM
The comic book is too much for my taste and the TV show is more balanced overall. Seasons are getting worse but still a decent watch
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