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05-24-2010 , 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton
The answer to the Desmond question may very well be as simple as the answer to why he's not effected by electromagnetism. He's just special.
And you don't see why someone would think this is quite a cop-out by the writers? When you write yourself into a corner, just use magic as your explanation.
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05-24-2010 , 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Potvaliant
Most (4-5 seasons) of the show was specifically marketed to the people who overanalyze, though - and I'm including interviews with the writers in what I consider marketing. If you don't think they started to write with the rabid Lost fan's OCD in mind you're really, really naive. And if you accept that they did, then it's either sloppiness, disdain for the audience, or simple desperation over the hole they dug themselves into, that's responsible for the loose ends and plot holes and other unreasonable BS.
I'm not disagreeing at all.

I'm just saying, we don't know what areas the writers thought we would be over analyzing. I'll go back to the stupid 4 toe statue.

For years now I've read people wanting to know about the 4 toe statue. But maybe there wasn't anything behind it. It just had 4 toes. Maybe the writers didn't mean for us to over analyze that part. So just because they didn't explain it, doesn't make it ****ty writing, it just makes it a unanswered question.
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05-24-2010 , 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Kos13
And you don't see why someone would think this is quite a cop-out by the writers? When you write yourself into a corner, just use magic as your explanation.
I'm not entirely sure how you can write a story about an Island with a magical light, and immortal people, and smoke monsters, etc, etc. Without occasionally using a cop out to explain something.

I'm not saying any of these explanations are perfect, just saying they don't bother me to the point that it negatively effected my watching of the show.
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05-24-2010 , 01:57 AM
The only thing I really wanted an answer for when it was all over was about Desmond.

In the recap/commentary show, the writers said it was about the characters so I sort of expected a reunion type ending.

Then Kate said something like "Christian Shephard, COME ON" and I lol'd.

I enjoyed it.
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05-24-2010 , 01:57 AM
By far my biggest disappointment was how much the MiB (LOL NO NAME) and Jacob story arch failed and didn't learn near enough about them which is sad because it had so much potential. Also Walt.

Overall thought finale was decent
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05-24-2010 , 01:57 AM
Oh and a giant lol to whoever said BUTTPLUG OF ETERNITY.
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05-24-2010 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Kos13
And you don't see why someone would think this is quite a cop-out by the writers? When you write yourself into a corner, just use magic as your explanation.
People really need to stop asserting that they wrote themselves into a corner. In fact, whether you liked the finale or not, I think it really puts to bed the idea that they have just been pulling stuff out of their ass the last season or two.
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05-24-2010 , 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Kos13
And you don't see why someone would think this is quite a cop-out by the writers? When you write yourself into a corner, just use magic as your explanation.
Would you rather see someone giving him his powers then that person getting there powers from someone else and so on and so on.

They gave you'll an origin for Jacobs powers and job and you all wanted to know where his mother got her job from.

this is sci fi and there comes a point where you need to just accept that is how it is.
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05-24-2010 , 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Vagos
People really need to stop asserting that they wrote themselves into a corner. In fact, whether you liked the finale or not, I think it really puts to bed the idea that they have just been pulling stuff out of their ass the last season or two.
WHY???????????? All the evidence points to them doing exactly that?
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05-24-2010 , 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by savant111
WHY???????????? All the evidence points to them doing exactly that?
All I can say is you simply haven't been paying attention if you think this.
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05-24-2010 , 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by LoosenUp

this is sci fi and there comes a point where you need to just accept that is how it is.
I actually somewhat agree with this, but I'd like for some of the defenders to tell me why the alt universe ending doesn't SUCK????
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05-24-2010 , 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Vagos
All I can say is you simply haven't been paying attention if you think this.
Enlighten me...please?
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05-24-2010 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by SoloAJ
Probably the same place Ben was. Outside the church.

Michael was never really part of the original Losties in spirit. He was a different fella.

Or something.
Michael said it himself...he was being punished for the bad **** that he did, and was stuck on island for all eternity, as part of "the whispers"
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05-24-2010 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by savant111
I actually somewhat agree with this, but I'd like for some of the defenders to tell me why the alt universe ending doesn't SUCK????
It wasn't the "alt universe ending". It was the ending. After everyone dies, that's how it ends.

You don't need to be so hostile. People would be more likely to take your posts seriously if you'd stop capitalizing letters like your yelling at people, or putting 10 question marks after things.
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05-24-2010 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton
I'm not entirely sure how you can write a story about an Island with a magical light, and immortal people, and smoke monsters, etc, etc. Without occasionally using a cop out to explain something.

I'm not saying any of these explanations are perfect, just saying they don't bother me to the point that it negatively effected my watching of the show.
I hate that Desmond randomly becomes special by turning a key, but I can accept it. The problem I have is them bashing us over the head with how special Desmond is without ever explaining how he's able to do what he does. Like, I can get behind him jumping into and out of purgatory, just give me a half-assed explanation of how he's able to do it. "He's special" is not an explanation (and BTW, they didn't even give us that, they just didn't address it at all).
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05-24-2010 , 02:08 AM
why did jacob let those weird others prance around the island and steal babies?
why did he allow them to live on his island?
rose and bernard didnt seem too lonely, certainly im missing an explanation of why they are grouped in with the rest?
now that there is no smoke monster, wtf reason do hurley and ben have for sticking around?
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05-24-2010 , 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Kos13
I hate that Desmond randomly becomes special by turning a key, but I can accept it. The problem I have is them bashing us over the head with how special Desmond is without ever explaining how he's able to do what he does. Like, I can get behind him jumping into and out of purgatory, just give me a half-assed explanation of how he's able to do it. "He's special" is not an explanation (and BTW, they didn't even give us that, they just didn't address it at all).
Well, for one thing, they kind of did give us some information about it when they locked him in that room and blasted him with that energy.

Whether Desmond got his specialness by turning a key, or a magic wand, or magic wine, or magic water, or God, or whatever. I don't really see a difference.
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05-24-2010 , 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by TurnUpTheSun
now that there is no smoke monster, wtf reason do hurley and ben have for sticking around?
They have to protect the eternal light of life from anyone that comes across the island and tries to mess with it.
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05-24-2010 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Potvaliant
FTR I think that Lost was a poorly-written show that had excellent production values and actors which made it fun to watch.
Yeah, me too. Some of the actors really owned their roles but the writing has always been the weakest link of LOST. And by this I mean the characters. They had a good sci-fi show going for a while and all the twists and turns kept me coming back. I didn't really care if any of these were answered though. Would have been cool just to end the series with the biggest facemelter yet and then cue LOST instead of this schmaltzy crap. All the finale did was re-hash past epidoes.. Awww they're all gonna be happy in heaven now re-united with their loved ones. Whatever. Super lame.
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05-24-2010 , 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton
It wasn't the "alt universe ending". It was the ending. After everyone dies, that's how it ends.

You don't need to be so hostile. People would be more likely to take your posts seriously if you'd stop capitalizing letters like your yelling at people, or putting 10 question marks after things.
I'm just trying to emphasize my points, certainly not personal, and you guys have right to your opinion.

As a viewer eliminating the alternate universe story line in the last 10 minutes, and replacing the last two years of story is feel like a disservice.

I'm not trying to throw water on your experience of it, but am trying to understand why you liked it.
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05-24-2010 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Kos13
I hate that Desmond randomly becomes special by turning a key, but I can accept it. The problem I have is them bashing us over the head with how special Desmond is without ever explaining how he's able to do what he does. Like, I can get behind him jumping into and out of purgatory, just give me a half-assed explanation of how he's able to do it. "He's special" is not an explanation (and BTW, they didn't even give us that, they just didn't address it at all).
If you could accept that he was able to travel through time, why not alternate states of consciousness (i.e. seeing part of his afterlife, call it traveling to the "future" if you wish).

Use your imagination.
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05-24-2010 , 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Vagos
People really need to stop asserting that they wrote themselves into a corner. In fact, whether you liked the finale or not, I think it really puts to bed the idea that they have just been pulling stuff out of their ass the last season or two.
Yeahhhhhhhhhh, no.
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05-24-2010 , 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by savant111

As a viewer eliminating the alternate universe story line in the last 10 minutes, and replacing the last two years of story is feel like a disservice.

I'm not trying to throw water on your experience of it, but am trying to understand why you liked it.
How did they eliminate the alternate universe story line?

I think I liked it because I don't think any of that stuff you listed happened.
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05-24-2010 , 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by savant111
I'm just trying to emphasize my points, certainly not personal, and you guys have right to your opinion.

As a viewer eliminating the alternate universe story line in the last 10 minutes, and replacing the last two years of story is feel like a disservice.

I'm not trying to throw water on your experience of it, but am trying to understand why you liked it.
The alternate universe story wasn't "eliminated". It just wasn't what you thought it was all along.
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05-24-2010 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by LoosenUp
They have to protect the eternal light of life from anyone that comes across the island and tries to mess with it.
yea thought about that, but doesnt add up for me.
cause couldnt only the people who drank the drank see the light anyway?
and it wouldnt be hard for an army of 10 (or 3) to take on hurley and ben.
and its not like jacob was always standing, at guard, protecting this light.
this whole light thing makes zero sense to me.
(i know, its about the characters, blah blah, but the island was the main character for me)
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