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05-24-2010 , 01:19 AM
I wonder if WAY back when - when Eko was building a church - that was going to be the church of the final scene...but then Eko quit the show / etc - and they had to modify
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05-24-2010 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton
Because they had to write 120 hours of TV, and occasionally they thought they would go a certain direction and didn't end up going there.

I think you're being really nitty. There are parts of every episode that are written but never see production. There are parts that are produced, but don't make the episode. It just happens.

Just because we ridiculously overanalyze every single little bitty piece of the show, didn't mean it was intended to be overanalyzed like that.
Check my edit. Characters like Zoe and Dogen were introduced this season (when they had to know the exact direction they were going in) for apparently no reason other than to kill time. Sayid being revived, Claire being changed, etc. were all introduced and then never really mentioned again. Like, why "change" Claire and Sayid to make them questionably evil-ish and different if you're not going to use it? I don't think asking that question means I'm being nitty.
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05-24-2010 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Wubbie075
Didn't she say "it worked" when Sawyer got the candy bar after pulling the plug? That entire conversation in the blast hole was Juliet somehow seeing the purgatory meeting in the hospital snack room, and did not actually refer to the bomb at all.
this 1,000,000
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05-24-2010 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by NUTZ2
There's nothing satisfying about a show that leads you in one direction the entire time only to make a u turn when your finally about to reach the end. This whole religious ending came out of nowhere, for 5 seasons the show has been about the island, and the stories behind the people on the island. This whole season has been a slap in the face, to introduce a religious aspect, one with holes in it non the less is simply lazy and poor writting.

And people that are gona tell me the show has been about the ppl all along, I say wtf are you talking about. The only reason people tuned in to the show for past 5 seasons is because they were intrigued by the mysteries of the island, the unknown. The show was different then anything else that has ever been on the air. And to end the show with a cheesy ending, and to completely ignore questions that are crucial to the show is just silly. I wasn't disappointed with the finale, as much as I was disappointed with the entire season.
Sorry bro, but this show has had religious overtones for pretty much the entire show. We've talked extensively, to the point of ridiculousness, about it in almost every thread about every episode on this very forum.
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05-24-2010 , 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton;
Because they had to write 120 hours of TV, and occasionally they thought they would go a certain direction and didn't end up going there.
They didn't have to write 120 hours of television! Before season 3 was over, the creators of the show told network exactly how many episodes they would need in each of the next three seasons to complete the storynthey wanted to tell. The creators had free reign to create 10 more episodes or 100 more episodes. When they said they wanted ~50, the made it sound like they knew exactly what they were doing. And I was absolutely blown away by the Season 3 finale....but the series finale make almost everything that followed seem pointless to me.
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05-24-2010 , 01:21 AM
ya - hilarious someone saying "where did all this religion come from" - dude hasn't been paying attention apparently.
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05-24-2010 , 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Wubbie075
Didn't she say "it worked" when Sawyer got the candy bar after pulling the plug? That entire conversation in the blast hole was Juliet somehow seeing the purgatory meeting in the hospital snack room, and did not actually refer to the bomb at all.
basically, but "it worked" was what Miles told Sawyer after "listening" to Juliett's grave
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05-24-2010 , 01:21 AM
Disagree that flash sideways was purgatory. I think it was about ALL the characters and how they found heaven...amirite??? That's what I got from Christians monologue at least. I have a feeling I'm missing something, but no matter what its an epic fail for the flash sideways, and +1 to all who said this was cheap and thoughtless writing.

The reason we bought into the flash sideways as a alternate universe was because of the atom bomb in season 5 was supposed to stop them from ever coming to the island. If the flash sideways isn't real then wtf was season 5 even about???

LOST had great potential, but is NOT one of the all time greats.
2 things that made LOST awesome were 1) The viewer never knew exactly what was going on and 2) you were wondering how they were going to put it all together in the end. Even though they tied up the island story adequately (though anti-climactic imo) there were too many loose ends, holes in the writing, and plot lines that they just gave up on for me to consider this an all time great show.

Also...fu Kimmel for wasting an hour of my time and giving me nothing about the ending.
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05-24-2010 , 01:22 AM
Loved this series, season and finale. Great ending.
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05-24-2010 , 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by LoosenUp
(I'm an adult male and my eyes teared up on several occasions during this finale)


i might have on 2nd viewing if the ALT didn't turn out to be an obviously contrived plot convenience device just for reunions. unbelievably lame.
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05-24-2010 , 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by TxSteve
ya - hilarious someone saying "where did all this religion come from" - dude hasn't been paying attention apparently.
yeah, also seemed like they really played up all the religions kind of being "equal" with the stained glass window of all the major religions in the room where Jack met his father
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05-24-2010 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Kos13
Check my edit. Characters like Zoe and Dogen were introduced this season (when they had to know the exact direction they were going in) for apparently no reason other than to kill time. Sayid being revived, Claire being changed, etc. were all introduced and then never really mentioned again. Like, why "change" Claire and Sayid to make them questionably evil-ish and different if you're not going to use it? I don't think asking that question means I'm being nitty.
I don't really care about any of those people. Characters get introduced into shows all the time, and never amount to anything. I don't see why you really care, they're just minor characters on a really huge show.

As far as Sayid/Claire "changing". It's just part of the story. I guess I don't really understand your complaint. It seems your complaint is "I don't like some of the ways they told the story", which is perfectly fine. But I don't think there is anything systematically wrong with how it was told.
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05-24-2010 , 01:25 AM
am i the only one who thinks the alt timeline could still have happened?
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05-24-2010 , 01:26 AM
This might have already been asked, but those of you who have formed an acceptable solution for the finale: looking back at when we saw Desmond appear and disappear after talking to Jack on the plane, was that actually Desmond or just Jack imagining him (or some other explanation I'm not comprehending)?
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05-24-2010 , 01:26 AM
probably mentioned already - but Michael (harold perrineau) was asked by Kimmel where his character was -

the answer : he did bad things - so was stuck on the island whispering with the other people who'd done bad things.


There was 1 point - when Jack was hugging Christian where I couldn't make out what was said even on playback - anyone else?
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05-24-2010 , 01:27 AM
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What about the shot from the season premiere of the Island under water? That show any light onto the finale?
Yea seriously!!! HTF does the Atom bomb and that ending co-exist???
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05-24-2010 , 01:28 AM
im mostly just dissapointed that the writers forgot that there were 2 smoke monsters
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05-24-2010 , 01:28 AM
Can we get a SyFy spin-off that would focus around the island post-Jack?

I think I know why I don't like the ending. I'm a huge scifi fan and was looking for a finale more centered on the island and what happened. What we got was a tear-jerker complete life drama bomb that brought all the characters to a finish. It was well done but not the direction I hoped for.
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05-24-2010 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by savant111
Yea seriously!!! HTF does the Atom bomb and that ending co-exist???
A: what happened, happend. Faraday was wrong - and in all likelihood - the A-bomb WAS the incident.


As for the island at the bottom at the start of the flash sideways - time is sort of meaningless in the sideways - so I don't know - I guess the island someday ends up at the bottom of the ocean - possibly on Hurley's watch - possibly 100 "jacobs" later
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05-24-2010 , 01:29 AM
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This might have already been asked, but those of you who have formed an acceptable solution for the finale: looking back at when we saw Desmond appear and disappear after talking to Jack on the plane, was that actually Desmond or just Jack imagining him (or some other explanation I'm not comprehending)?
This is what I mean about people not paying attention and just are bad at lost. You're really asking this? Did you just watch the finale and you can't answer this.
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05-24-2010 , 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton
I don't really care about any of those people. Characters get introduced into shows all the time, and never amount to anything. I don't see why you really care, they're just minor characters on a really huge show.

As far as Sayid/Claire "changing". It's just part of the story. I guess I don't really understand your complaint. It seems your complaint is "I don't like some of the ways they told the story", which is perfectly fine. But I don't think there is anything systematically wrong with how it was told.
I get what you're saying, but it had nothing to do with the story. At all. It's like if they showed you five solid minutes of Bernard walking through the jungle without speaking or doing anything. That would just be irrelevant filler, wouldn't it? So yeah, I don't like the way they told the story because they weren't really telling a story at all, they were just killing time.
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05-24-2010 , 01:31 AM
my point is that even the religious story they were trying to sell had holes in it. The whole Flock/Jacob thing wasn't explained, and near the end you sort of got the feeling that Flock/Jacob don't even represent good/evil. What about the Flock/Jack/Desmond scene what was Jack wrong about, what was Flock wrong about, why was Desmond wrong?

Why is Desmond able to travel between the 'afterlife'/island, the whole afterlife thing is stupid so they have to remeber each other to 'move on', why does the island need a protector if smokey is gone? And these are just some of the holes that have nothing to do with the island.
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05-24-2010 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by LoosenUp
This is what I mean about people not paying attention and just are bad at lost. You're really asking this? Did you just watch the finale and you can't answer this.
fine, youre the best. flex them muscles. now answer?
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05-24-2010 , 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton
I don't really care about any of those people. Characters get introduced into shows all the time, and never amount to anything. I don't see why you really care, they're just minor characters on a really huge show.

As far as Sayid/Claire "changing". It's just part of the story. I guess I don't really understand your complaint. It seems your complaint is "I don't like some of the ways they told the story", which is perfectly fine. But I don't think there is anything systematically wrong with how it was told.
I think what Kos is saying is why have a good/evil/Jacob/MIB/mythical isalnd story develop in detail if it's just going to get dropped and the final statement the show makes is all about the "people" aspect.
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05-24-2010 , 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by savant111
Yea seriously!!! HTF does the Atom bomb and that ending co-exist???
It was about the characters! Nothing else needs to make sense. I cried ffs !!
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