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Who cares? Really? Sawyer brought a huge branch over to use as a lever, assume he got him out.

Suspension of disbelief for the win. It's a prerequisite for the show.

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05-24-2010 , 12:25 AM

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I feel bad for all those who are stuck on the island mysteries. You're missing the point! Didn't you become attached to the characters in a way that you might not have realized until the very end? The mysteries kept me hooked and allowed me to get to know the people. IMO, that was their purpose.

I kind of disagree. I got my read on the characters pretty early on and appreciated them accordingly. The mystery of the first few seasons is what made the show, not that either Jack or all of them got into heaven.

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05-24-2010 , 12:26 AM

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Why is it that every single person who considers Lost a character-driven story looks down their noses at people who liked the actual story more?

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05-24-2010 , 12:26 AM

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Another question for the "alt-timeline was purgatory" people: what was the significance of Jack's son?

helped Jack come to terms with his issues with his father

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05-24-2010 , 12:27 AM

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imo, squeek12 is the kind of LOST fan I would have been wanting to watch the show with, not you grumpy folks that obviously had certain expectations and aren't satisfied. This show was probably never going to be for you from the beginning.

I think it must suck to be one of you that hated that. Obviously, it was intended for people to love it, and if you didn't, it wasn't for you.

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05-24-2010 , 12:28 AM

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are you guys really worried about how ben got out from under the log?

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05-24-2010 , 12:28 AM

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Without the mysteries the show is nothing. I was attached to the mystery surrounding the island, the characters were just there to move the story along

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05-24-2010 , 12:28 AM

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I'm pretty sure that Desmond's extra awareness all came from Charlie driving his car into the water. There wasn't a hint of awareness in Desmond before that.

Yeck. Right on.

At the time, I really thought Ben was implying to Hurley/audience that Hurley could send Desmond back and make things start happening "back home" or whatever.

I guess I just don't know. Apparently it all started with Charlie having his dream, then.

Why Charlie? Why the dream? Those seem like good speculative questions.

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05-24-2010 , 12:29 AM

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Josh Holloway via Satellite >>>>>>>> Matthew Fox live

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05-24-2010 , 12:30 AM

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lol Emily der rAvin

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05-24-2010 , 12:30 AM

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Why is it that every single person who considers Lost a character-driven story looks down their noses at people who liked the actual story more?

I think that it's just always been viewed as a character-driven show by most people.

Obviously this may not be the case for you and others, but ...

Yeah I don't know.

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05-24-2010 , 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RacersEdge

Really? I felt the exact opposite.

Yes, but I can see where you are coming from. Throughout the series I really was more interested in the island and all its mind****s than the people. But the ending helped me realize that I really did care about the characters, and I think they resolved the characters' stories really well.

OTOH, I would definitely read a book detailing the origins of the island, Dharma, etc.

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05-24-2010 , 12:31 AM

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I think that Matthew Fox is actually pretty cool. He's noticeably awkward, but I think he just isn't used to this sort of thing still. Some actors probably just never get to the point where they embrace the interview.

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05-24-2010 , 12:32 AM

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Just a random thought:

I don't want to speak in hyperbole, like so many other people in this thread about how "awful" the finale was. But I'm pretty much at a loss as to how someone could have liked the show as a whole, but hated the finale. Surely those who hated the finale, have hated the show for a long time.

I thought the finale was absolutely amazing. Probably the 2 1/2 best hours of TV I've watched in my life, or very close to it. If I had DVR'd it and missed the 1000 commercials that might be the only thing that would make it better imo.

This coming from someone who has seen pretty much every single 2p2 loved show, literally.

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05-24-2010 , 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kos13

Why is it that every single person who considers Lost a character-driven story looks down their noses at people who liked the actual story more?

That's not what I meant. I just meant that I feel bad that you didn't enjoy the ending that way that I did. I'm satisfied and you're not. It doesn't make either of us right or wrong to feel the way we do. We got something different out of the series.

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05-24-2010 , 12:34 AM

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How many times did you cry?

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05-24-2010 , 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SoloAJ

I think that it's just always been viewed as a character-driven show by most people.

Obviously this may not be the case for you and others, but ...

Yeah I don't know.

If you describe this show to a friend, do you say:

"They're on an island that's full of mysteries..."
OR
"This guy, Jack, loves Kate, he has daddy issues..."

That doesn't automatically make it a story-driven show, but I don't think it's as much of a stretch as 90% of the people ITT make it out to be. And those of us who like the story more aren't snooty d-bags about the way other people enjoy it. Well, I'm a d-bag, but I'm not snooty; I couldn't possibly care any less about why other people enjoy the show.

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05-24-2010 , 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SoloAJ

Of those of you understanding what's going on, take a shot:

What is the significance of Ben not going into the church?

Hes going to hell.

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05-24-2010 , 12:36 AM

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Agree with this.

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05-24-2010 , 12:37 AM

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I was just thinking this. You should have been prepared for letdown a long time ago if the mythology is your source of interest. They could have sat down with an entirely candid and open Cuse/Lindelof for a 2.5 hour interview and they wouldn't have been able to address everything.

You should have seen a letdown coming and just embraced it.

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05-24-2010 , 12:37 AM

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lol random Jacob shot?

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05-24-2010 , 12:38 AM

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What was up with Eloise knowing?

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05-24-2010 , 12:38 AM

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Sopranos finale and the Wire finale blow this 1 away

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05-24-2010 , 12:38 AM

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Maybe it's just that by this point, most people have realized that the mythology was never going to get explained in even remote detail.

It seems weird to "us" to complain about the finale after like two years of "more questions, few answers."

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