I wasn't expecting an answer to everything, but a few answers was nice.

Everyone of those was an answer to a meaningless question which was already answered or if you had any imagination would have been able to have given them a reasonable solution. Walt was the only thing of note that was touched upon and I felt that was disappointing.

I actually thought it was taking the piss out of the fans looking for answers to all the silly small things.

where can i watch this at?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrGRqDL43AU

I basically viewed it as mocking people who cared about stuff. We figured out that the show was basically a bunch of turds thrown at walls to keep us watching week after week without realizing it was just an overbudgeted soap opera. The real key is there are no answers because it was not planned to have answers with a coherent story. That's the reason why every answer just opens up 10 new questions. It's just piss poor story telling.

im really pissed that i have to buy the season 6 dvd in a few weeks. i have 1-5, can't not complete the collection. that epilogue did zip for me.

epilogue was worthless. the "explanation" for chang's different names was just insulting and perfectly illustrates that the writers really were just sitting around saying "wouldn't it be interesting if we did this?" with no further thought put into it before writing it into the script.

Yeah that was pretty disappointing.

No...more the opposite.
The main people that still talk about it are the whiners and haters like TomC who just sooo want to be right that the show sucked cuz it didn't do what they wanted it to. Those are the people this "dvd add-on" was meant for and it may be an intentional **** you from the creators since they obviously can tell from watching it that its just a bunch of random answers to questions that don't really matter, which is why it is such a fail.

So you're argument is people aren't talking about it so it was good.

That's an interesting argument. Stupid also, but interesting.

I didn't mean talking about it on the forums fwiw, I meant socially.

For instance, I live in a diff city from my fam. My brother and I were both huge fans of the series since day 1. When I went home like a month after the finale, our conversation was basically

- What did you think?
- It was pretty good.
- Yea, I thought so.

and that was it.

Contrasted with the endless convos we had after the flash forward finale or the Man in Black/Locke reveal or any of the classic moments over the life of the series, that just doesn't hold up.

In speaking to some friends they had the same reaction, so I decided to post it itt see what other people had to say.

Maybe my sample size is off, but the more I think of it the more I believe the whole purgatory thing was ok, but it wasn't particularly good, and as such it ate up too much time in the last season of a show.

Also your argument about bias works a lot more in favour of the finale than against it. Clearly people wanted to love the last season and the finale. I certainly did.

And like I said, I did enjoy it for what it was worth, it just wasn't worth all that much compared to the rest of the series.

I never understood this line of reasoning. (more accurately, I understand it completely and recognize it as being ******ed).

One cannot suggest that how a story should be critically judged is to be done in light of what the people who are telling it said in the press.

You can certainly advance a strong argument that the series is not a failure on the basis that it left a lot of question marks.

You can also advance a strong argument that the series did fail on the basis that it left a lot of question marks.

Fwiw, I would agree with the former.

However the argument that the series is not a failure on the basis that it left a lot of questions marks because separate from the story the storytellers said in the press that the series will leave a lot of questions marks is moronic.

did i say whether or not i thought hte series was a failure? stop putting words into my mouth and calling me a moron for things i haven't said. my point is that people had ridiculous expectations that were impossible to meet, then complained that they didn't find out **** that doesn't matter to the overall narrative, which is ******ed when they were told months in advance that most questions would remain unanswered.

having a problem with the overall plot is one thing, being pissed that we don't find out where the polar bears come from (info easily obtained online/inferred over the course of the show) is stupid.

This is exactly the prob. You're suggesting a particular critique/reaction/view of the story is "******ed" in light of the creators statements in the press months in advance of publication.

That's stupid.

The idea that "we were told months in advance we wouldn't get answers" doesn't excuse this. There are a ton of answers that are obviously irrelevant and pointless. The food drop is a perfect example. Shannon's inhaler is another one (that I thought was handled well because it was making fun of people who care about stupid answers). And the answers we did get were pretty dumb- what is the power of the island? magic light. what is Jacob? some dude that's mom crashed on the island. What is the smoke monster? another dude who went into the magic light. It was just all dumb answers that didn't really explain much or add anything to the story. And the quote was that they weren't going to be EVERYTHING answered. Sure, they answered a lot, but not one answer struck me as interesting. Every single one of them struck me as "well, we put these questions out, what can we do now?"

What we were told, far beyond the point of being committed to the show, was that they had "it all planned out" from the beginning, and the story would be some kind of meaningful arc. The only thing I saw planned from the beginning was ending on Jack's eye. I really had a lot of faith that they DID have some awesome part planned out, and all these hints and all these stories WOULD matter. But none of them did. All of the coincidences were just "hey, wouldn't it be sweet if....", with no relevance on anything.

It's just bad storytelling. I didn't want to believe they were just making it all up as they went along. There were hints that they had some cool plans (perhaps some stuff with traveling back in time would explain stuff that they HAD to have planned from the start, or at least early). But really it was just a bunch of writers that tried to get as stoned as possible to come up with as much weird stuff, pretend there is just meaning in that, and then add a cliffhanger on the end so we'll keep watching each week. I was bamboozled big time. I was waiting for the payoff, and it never came. Perhaps it is my fault for listening to them and not seeing through their lies.

It's also quite sad that many of the fan theories were far, far superior in their story telling techniques. Now, there is a problem with these types of shows being able to make a good storyline since they don't know how long it needs to last, how many stories they need to tell, etc... But even so, there is no excuse for not having some basic ideas figured out ahead of time, heading toward that point, and then filling in the middle as you go.

Take the entire alternate reality split. That was just a deliberate scheme to trick you while adding nothing to the story and bring back dead cast members. It was absolute trash and provided no benefit to the story. But hey, it kept you watching each week to try to make sense of it until the curtain was pulled off of it. Mission accomplished.

it was a VERY emotionally satisfying series finale. It had a end to it for all the characters and for the overall story. Most people got the answers they wanted.

The add-on probably would have been way more interesting if it was about Ben/Hurley's relationship or Desmond/Penny/Eloise/Sawyer/Kate/Claire/Richard blah blah blah...cuz people were actually emotionally invested in those characters and cared about what was happening to them.
No one actually cares how the food keeps getting dropped, sure its a neat little question,...we get the answer in a "cute" little scene but it makes no impact what so ever on the viewer cuz its just an answer to a meaningless question.

People don't sit around and talk about other series finales once they are over unless the ending was really weird or jarring emotionally --> Seinfeld, Sopranos, etc. LOST is slightly different from these shows because it was so much about the ride.
Now say Season 5 had been the final shot...yes people would be talking about it for awhile(much like they did the Season 6 finale) but eventually people move on. The show is over. Only like hardcore nerds are going to sit around discussing a SERIES FINALE 3-6 months later...especially if the finale nailed things down as firmly as the LOST one did.

they are dumb for you because u wanted the answers to be something different. For the majority of people they were fine. Not everyone is a massive nit. I mean it is one thing to be bummed that everything didn't fit together perfectly and it all wasn't completely planned out blah blah blah - which would have been impossible, but whatever...the creators should have done more to nip that thought process in the bud. Its even another if u wanted the ending to be less spiritual in nature or more about the island less about the characters etc etc. That's fine, but that's not what the creators wanted to do and it wasn't really what the show was about. But your line of complaining just comes off like a whiny bitch who supposedly got suckered out of 6 years of watching super enjoyable well acted/written/produced TV that was all worthless cuz in the end it wasn't all perfectly planned out like u wanted it blah blah blah. Do yourself a favor...don't watch heavily serialized shows that deal with sci-fi, and time travel, and monsters, and the afterlife etc. You're gonna end up whiny and bitchy at the end.

There were no answers I wanted. There are only answers I didn't want. I didn't ask for perfection. I just was hoping for one or two big things that completed the arc and paid off anyone who watched the whole thing.

Keep saying I want it perfect, though. I pretty much have given up on serialized multi-season shows. But it can be done right with careful planning. See Dexter for example. Now Dexter went about it in a smart way in just planning out an entire season and not worrying about having some big plan between seasons as much. Lost did an OK job of getting each season right (until the lollast one). They set up arcs and set up pieces so that everything was needed.

Yes, I am pissed. I watched every episode in S1-S5 at least 3 times, some even more. But I guess these guys are whiny bitches too:

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Because that's what Lost was.

its not that serialized multi-season dramas are the problem, its that serialized multi-season dramas on NETWORK tv are often subject to the whims of some executives rather than the people actually making the show. they don't usually get years to plan out and film seasons in advance of the air date as a show like the wire did.

This is a good point. Although Lost did have the benefit of having quite a lot longer than most network shows in being able to figure things out ahead of time.

You know why you watched every episode...cuz it was ****ing awesome to watch and be along for the ride...that's why. You didn't like how the ride ended...to bad. Millions of people loved how it ended and were super happy to just be able to have gotten to go on the ride. Your South Park clip is ******ed and just shows what a massive life nit you are.

I didn't read the Harry Potter Books just to find out how it all ends. I read them cuz they were ****ing awesome and super enjoyable to read. I didn't love how it all ended...but it worked for the most part, and I was happy to have been able to read them and get enjoyment out of each chapter in the story as it came along.

Comparing Dexter to Lost, just in even scale and scope both story and production wise, is so LOL that its even hard to fathom someone making that comparison with out doing it as a intentional joke.

Just the Cable/Network TV difference is the tip of the iceberg, I mean just think if CC and DL could have pulled a Chase and told the network "Hey we're gonna take a year break...that may actually turn into a nearly 2 year break...and then we'll have our last season". They started on their season at the same time as if they were starting episodes in Sept...they just didn't air the shows till Jan so there wouldn't be massive breaks and a bunch of reruns...and they had to essentially beg the network to allow them to do it when they first attempted it. LOST was an accident.

This is why I made that argument that there won't be another LOST on network TV.
Sure on FX or HBO or Showtime...maybe. but to quote Josh Friedman

You just don't get it. The ride was only awesome because I thought it was going somewhere. Take away that, and it's boring. If the ride is so awesome, I might sometime in my life watch the whole series again. In fact, I was planning on doing that after it ended. It's virtually unwatchable again knowing the end. Yeah, millions of people loved it. Millions of people love a lot of dumb stuff, too. It changes nothing. Millions of people think Miley Cyrus has talent too. I look back on the entire Lost experience as waiting in line in anticipation for a sweet ride, then getting to the end of the line and that being it. I just wanted *some* payoff. It didn't even have to be much.

Of course, Harry Potter isn't a mystery-ish book series. This is like having a murder mystery novel where it ends with the detective giving up and dying with the case unsolved. Then the writer makes an epilogue and says "oh, the murderer was some dude you have never seen before". That would be a terrible book, no matter how good "the ride". "But we gave you answers!". Yeah, the answer was terrible.

Did you work on the show or something? You are so defensive. If so, I'm sorry your writer buddies either sold out or were too incompetent to come up with anything interesting. Next time, try something more advanced than getting high, coming up with a list of weird things, then having no way to explain them.

I'm just showing an example that I am not some life nit and can enjoy super well done stuff. While Lost was better than a lot of trash on TV, it's still trash.

Plenty of fan theories came up with more interesting and well thought out ideas. If some random fans can come up with stuff like that, why shouldn't the writers?

If the scope was the problem, maybe they should have thought of that. These are pros, not amateurs (although judging by the results, just barely). Have a plan with the big picture. It doesn't have to be that detailed. I had surprisingly low expectations going into things that there would be on or two things that made the last couple episodes different. It wasn't unrealistic at all. Yeah, it's harder to do it with something that you don't know how long its going to be, but still, you just figure it out in advance, and reveal it when you know the ending is coming. But nothing was figured out. Well, except for ending on Jack's eye closing. Wow, how profound!

I only am hard on Lost because it seemed like it really had the potential to be special with a little bit of work. We were reassured that it was going to be worth it, that the plan was there and in place, that they WERE treating it special. Of course it was all a lie, or they were just incredibly incompetent. But hey, anyone who disagrees must be a life nit! Much easier.

Yeah, I know, they had it so rough. Man we were so lucky to just get to see how many people Kate made out with.

Hopefully there isn't on any network. Actually now that I think about it, there already are. Days of Our Lives, General Hospital, etc... Just not as fancy cameras and slightly better acting.

I don't know who Josh Friedman is but I'm happy that someone finally agreed with me that the the show went too far into Sci-Fi in their last two seasons. While TC would have preferred a tight science wrap-up, they wisely appealed to the greater part of the audience.

Ok, it has taken until now for the realization to dawn on me that you're just trolling this thread. Easier to just put you on ignore given every one of your posts in this thread is going to be identical to the last one.

"the show was trash, the writers were hacks, it was horribly written, everyone wasted 6 years of their life, if they don't get it then they are obviously not super smart like me, the millions and millions of people who loved the show and finale were all sheep, blah blah blah."

See, you never bother to actually address my arguments. They are not unique to me. Plenty of critics have had similar issues. But hey, I'm just trolling!

Just tell me, were you involved in Lost? Because it really sounds like you just got sand in your vagina that people dare criticize your brilliance.

I have to agree with TomCollins.

I neglected to watch the show because it always looked like some dramatic survivor wannabe with stupid mysteries to keep people hooked.

Of course, I caught wind of the news after season 3 that they had signed on for 3 more years and the show would end with the sixth season. This piqued my interest and I actually started watching the show only because they had three entire years to wrap up what I thought was going to be a sweet series-long arc.

I never would have watched Lost if it wasn't for the reports the writers had at least a skeleton of an idea of what was to happen in the long run.