The people who like the ending make me think of what would happen if you put a bunch of stoners on a roller coaster and tell them they are going on an "epic" journey to a far off place....when the ride comes to an end, right back to where it started and they didn't really go anywhere..instead of knowing they were deceived the stoners all sing in chorus "duuuude, we came full circle maaaannn...HEAVYYYYY!"..
**** this show, I'm done. The matrix 3 ending almost seems not that bad now.

Man, you had to mention Matrix 3, now I'm angry all over again.

Jin and Sun's daughter lost her parents when she was three, and never met her father. It is doubtful either of them are two of the most important people in her life, nor do they represent the most important time in her life. If you believe the Ajira flight never made it back to the main land, then Kate and Claire are both dead and the same would apply for Aaron.

Therefore, the babies were only important in the sideways world as constructed catalysts for awakening the Losties, but their souls belong in some other sideways world with the people that were most important to them.

Ya dig?

I bet Jack felt like a dick for making Sun come back to the island and abandon her kid.

I think it's generally assumed Kate and Claire got home.

Can you accept that love at first sight is a possibility? Whether Nadia had a strength of character or not is inconsequential, she was his past, and on the island Shannon was his future. Sayid never left the island, he blew up in the sub explosion, so it makes sense he would choose to carry to the afterlife with Shannon, his last great love.


Sun left her daughter to find and be with her great love, That was an easy one for anyone who saw the show. As for Aaron, he is with his grandmother, and after the show concludes he would be with his mother and Aunt Kate, conclusive from the finale.

Is this the only afterlife these people could choose to participate in? Depends on your perspective. I have made mention many times in this thread about linear existence. Alternate realities can occur in every phase of existence. This is one of those central themes within the show, choose to not accept the premise and there never will be an adequate answer given. Whether you agree with the premise is another inconsequential element in allowing the story to be told.

Islands that disappear and smoke monsters are big suspensions of disbelief, yet a love is not an acceptable plot wrap? If you hate the show, thanks for the insight and time to move on for you I suppose.

wow just saw this. are you friends? what is the significance of the name?

TC this is AWESOME!

Not sure if this has been discussed, by what else could this be but the church? From the lighthouse episode. Unless it's something else, can we think that Jacob had an awareness of this afterlife church experience?

It's from Apocalypse Now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLEjr4eg8rA

brilliant!

Hopefully the season 6 dvds contain the same stuff as the complete series dvds as a owner of the first 5 on blueray that will be pretty tilting if they arent the same.

Lol at anyone thinking Lost is suddenly not rewatchable. 9 months ago people would watch it several times over but now, nah, nothing to see here folks move on with your lives.

Aaron was raised by his Aunt. His mother was crazy and likely ended up in some nuthouse and Kate wouldnt have won custody if they actually tried to fight it in court.

They could have had Kate reveal she went on to have a kid, maybe with Sawyer, but then cue the huge hate on this so there isnt really anything they can do.

Remember the only person who had actual blood related family there was Jack with his father (who was their guide and may have already crossed over) and sister who he never knew in life anyway.

The point is the 21st century family is the friends we have around us.

(feel free to assume i went on a 100 word insulting tirade against people who though Jin and Sun's kid should be in their waiting room)

if kate/etc died on the ajira plane, she wouldn't have told jack she'd been waiting for him or had missed him for so long or whatever she said after his "awakening". the point was that she lived for a while but was waiting to be reunited with him in death.

Sayid's last love wasn't Shannon, it was Nadia. He married her after he got off the island! Then he went back.

You just don't get it (not surprising). I would want to rewatch things knowing what I know now and seeing how that changes things. I really know nothing now that would make the viewing experience worthwhile. If I could go back in time and convince myself to never start watching the show, I would. The only benefit I feel I would get is understanding pop culture references (such as the PBJ joke) better.

I wouldn't call it unwatchable, but the investment/payoff ratio isn't there. I enjoyed the show because I thought I was being taken on an awesome journey. Imagine going on a long road trip. Sure there are some pretty sites along the way and it's nice to lookout the window. But you take a road trip because you are going to end up somewhere better than where you started. You don't take a huge roadtrip just looking at the scenery and then ending back home. You need that payoff. Lost was a 100 hour roadtrip that ended up back in my own garage. Especially if the driver tells you "omg, we are going to go to this super awesome place, just trust us".

Now I'm not calling people who do enjoy that sort of stuff stupid. That's fine, people like different things. But it wasn't what interested me in the show and isn't why I cared about it. So it's not surprising I'm left with an incredibly bitter taste in my mouth.

Does this mean that Faraday was lying to Richard when he said he was in love with the woman behind him (or to that affect) when he was talking about getting access to Jughead? That's what I took from it - that Charlotte wasn't his love (probably indeed Teresa).

This.

This.

Another debatable position. I saw that Sayid did continue his search for Nadia based on a need to fill the hole in his heart from Shannon's death. He had nothing else in his life, then after Nadia's death he devoted his time to missionary work in attempts to again fill the gap.

If Nadia was his greatest love, and was still alive while he was on the island, why would he entertain thoughts of Shannon? As a piece of ass, yes, but his feelings for her went deeper. The 6th season supports that direction, for the Losties created their ideals in alt time. He placed Nadia with his brother, if he really was still in love she would have been either with him, or available.

That's just how I saw the events.

OMG SO EPIC

This is from that long Doctor post:
Jacob definitely knew what was going to happen. Fate v free will might have been a question, but free will definitely didn't exist despite what Jacob said he wanted. It's fairly lol that Kate and Sawyer were selected to be candidates as children, and no matter what they did in their lives they were fated to end up in Australia at that pivotal time and get on a plane that Desmond was going to crash at exactly the right moment. But once all that happened sure hey here's some free will for ya.

I've often thought Jacob must have either the ability to travel in time (makes sense since time travel did exist) - or the ability to see the future (omniscience).

I also wonder if Jacob's touch - rather than bringing people to the island - made it so Jacob could track people - follow their lives - see them in the Lighthouse - etc - in sense candidates to be candidates - through free will, some would have corrected their course - where-as others (sawyer / kate) would have continued their slide.

Very nice summation of sayid/nadia debate.

Can you correct me if I'm wrong but was part of the reason other characters are left out of the final was partly due to the fact they wanted to end the show how JJ had written it when he produced the Pilot? (sorry if slightly newbie Q)

Don't be so sure though. The fact that Flash Forward has a thread while 90% of the shows ever done don't on the forum should give a clue that thread length doesn't correlate with hardly anything