SS + GOMAD

That would be my guess -

just like there were US Army tents there from the days of the Army - Otherton and the stations from Dharma

Wells from who knows - and some stuff built by Egyptians.

Now there is also airplane wreckage and a beach camp set up by 815

i asked someone how Ben got out from under the tree, and idiot insisted they showed the earth shaking again and dislodging him...that definately didnt happen, unless i missed it twice

Across the Sea was a flop. MIB was the only character i remotely cared about. I hated mother and the episode completely ruined the character of Jacob. not to mention, they could have easily thrown a few bones (not a nod at the stupid Adam and Eve payoff) and had some cool island mythology answers, and less Mother. She was awful.

For 15 centuries, Jacob stayed the observer he was in Across the Sea. It took Richard in Ab Aeterno to propose he get involved, and even then he wasn't interested it directing other peoples lives. Probably it was only once Jacob needed to find a replacement that he became more active in his interfering.

Jacob as a character really sucked, Mib was awesome. They were 2 sides to the same coin, almost a Batman/Joker relationship; "You made me. No, you made me first" from the 1989 Batman movie.

lol reading back a couple pages, I like when people say stuff wasn't answered, most people instead of replying with actual answer they reply, WTF CLEARLY ANSWERED IDIOT DONK.

If you can't be bothered to watch it, you be damn sure I can't be bothered to tell you.

kind of like the people who come and say - "I have a question - and I'm not reading an 18 page thread to see if it's already been asked...so can someone tell me...."

wasn't that basically what Richard asked Jacob in their first conversation - and that's why he "hired" Richard to be his #2 guy?

Why was Kate's name crossed off for being a mother, but Kwan was still there despite Jin and Sun having a child?

ok, so after having a couple days to reflect on the finale and read a ton of different viewpoints...im still in the camp of those that appreciated the finale for being a great piece of television on its own merit, but ultimately i find it lacking in the complete scope of LOST as a series.

by season 3 or 4 they absolutely knew they had something special on their hands and had plenty of time to make sure they hit a home run, they knew ppl wanted and were anticipating answers to certain mysteries. instead we get the final 2 seasons creating more questions than ever end up answered by the time the series comes to a close.

prime example of this; the incident used to be one of the major mysteries of LOST, right behind the island itself and Richard's origin, imo. when they finally show you the actual events of the incident you are left with no definitive answer at the end of season 5. instead you are left with a time traveling paradox. was jughead detonating the incident? or did whatever happened happened and they never could change it? on top of the fact that the way they edited the season 6 premiere blatantly implies that juliet smashing jughead directly created the sideways(that is implied to have a direct impact on saving the island through desmond's actions, but that is a whole different can of worms).

for the first 3-4 seasons this was entertaining and i loved it, but knowing the series was ending after season 6 you expect good writers to address some of these issues, instead of just creating even bigger plot holes and continuity questions without answering previous ones. especially when the showrunners state over and over that they have a plan and thats why they set an end date.

I guess, but he seemed to do a pretty poor job.

Most of the questions that have been answered but not all that well in show are on Lostpedia.

I got a PM by someone asking me about an unanswered question, the key part was:

He was a nice dude, posed the question in a nice way so i actually answered it.

Edit, thinking about it some more it might just be as simple as he cant harm people in an ash circle but he can cross the barrier. MiB lives under the temple which is protected by the ash, so i dunno, maybe its that simple.

Now this is a genuine plothole in the show, not something vaguely alluded to. It is also not an answer easily found (there is a theory with more detail that im not entirely keen on that expands it out to include "special people" and why Dogen in the Temple was so important.

If the unanswered questions werent uber nitty adding nothing to the story (who is Libby's husband? more like why does anyone care) or ones that werent answered within the show itself (what was MiB's loophole to kill Jacob, you really dont think that was answered?) then id have given detail which i did on a few of them.

The fact is those lists were copied from somewhere one of the dudes admitted it, i suspect Assani did too) and was clearly out of date for a few. Like "what is the island?". I mean sure we dont have the full detail but the show clearly answered in no uncertain terms in large brushstrokes what it is and does.

If you have a question, if you have researched it on Lostpedia and done a bit of googling and you still cant find an interpretation then make some lists but a lot of this stuff is out there and its not too hard to research it. Again, im not saying Lost is a perfect document of record with no holes or flaws, it is a flawed work of flawed people influenced by other even more flawed people. Even if the makers didnt explain something there is a good chance they knew what it was - if i was in charge id have gone a different way on a few things and i think in most shows (especially open ended ones like Lost) people will react the same but this is their story and we dont have the right to insist they tell it how we want.

Those were cool, but I think a lot of them were there just for fun and mystery. I know the Dharma Shark was a joke for example, kind of a wink to themselves.

This was one of my favorites:


It was cool bc of all the 'magnet' themed stuff, but even I can say that its expecting a lot for them to tie all those together.

Also, some of the stuff like picture frames is just errors by set people.

there is absolutely no way that was a "mistake". you think someone took a bunch of pictures out of their frames, put them back into different frames, re-arranged them in such a way that we would notice them in the shot, made sure the camera focused in on them so we would notice, and this was all a mistake? how could that possibly happen?

no, this was a way to generate interest in the show. in a way it is representative of a major show MO - create mysteries as a way creating dramas. some were big, some were little, but certainly many were just red herrings designed to screw with people.

Oh, I didn't look closely at your pic in particular. I dunno yeah it was probably for fun and to generate interest from interweb nerds. I remember there being another picture on a table or something that people were dissecting too. I just credited things like that to the 'mystery of Lost.' I understand what you're saying, but I'm far more concerned with things like Walt, and other stuff mentioned. It would be really effing cool if they could have tied stuff like pictures together, but again, thats a huge huge task beyond just tying together larger themes they dropped.

‘Lost’ Finale Explained: Answering the Unanswered Questions

At the end of this vid the 2 bottles different being hand blown http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK6nerse3RI

another props master vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB9eKhTQPXM

and a sculpter point of view http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGe8q...eature=related


I recall one where the set dresser talked about the cargo ship set, engine room, barracks, etc. many of the details, like picture frame inconsistencies, are explainable if you search for the information. The actual production people do indeed make mistakes. They didn't do it just to **** with the viewers all the time.

I'd love to see an explanation for pictures being swapped out of frames and rehung in different frames, during the course of the shooting of 1 episode in a set that was never used prior to this or after this. that's entirely different than minor inconsistencies

there is an entire section on lostpedia about continuity mistakes, and indeed I would bet the majority are human error. but some big ones are red herrings

It's just a line of chalk in a cave

The best explanation I can think of is that Jin was the candidate and maybe Jacob thinks a mother is more important to a child than a father (which would make sense given Jacob's own personal history). Also Jin had never met his daughter, may have been a factor.

It would be pretty ****ing bizarre if they didn't since that's exactly what happened to the guy on the cross next to Jesus and half the point of the religion in general.

My favourite story with Lost's production is with regard to Locke's knives way back in season one (im a knife guy).

Basically the show turned up in Hawaii and needed these props, so they just sent some lacky to a local knife shop on one of the islands and he was told to buy a bunch of knives. The owner of the shop tried to get him to buy a few good quality ones which would be representative of what Locke would actually own but instead the guy just bought a few of the meanest looking knives.

The end result:


The main Locke knife in season one was a piece of **** and they broke a lot of them, but it was too late to change anything. So basically they tracked down the maker and bought out pretty much the entire warehouse of them and shipped them to Hawaii.

They managed to subtely ignore the Master Bowie and switch to the SOG Tigershark when they got in the hatch (err, it was in the hatch ldo ) in season 2 but that is the story of how one prop guy making a quick decision ended up with them handcuffed to a crap prop.

The extension of that is when people tracked down these knives they found Locke as "the expert wilderness guy" using an extremely inferior knife so THAT lead to several theories about Locke's past, how he was a Walter Mitty, or how he was a salesmen (hence having a load of knives to sell on the walkabout).

This is how the tiniest details in a show like Lost spiral into wild theories. One guy thinks the cheap big knife looks cool and the character gets painted as a complete ****** with no knowledge of knives or survival.

Oh and they somehow managed to put some $20 knives next to some $200+ knives in an extremely expensive luggage case, so whilst it looked nice on set it was a real mess when people tracked all this down and tried to make sense of it assuming these props were chose with huge insight and forethought.

Kate was found innocent of those crimes.

Was it filmed on the same set at the same time, or was the scene mixed from different shooting dates?

Remember the set is in a constant state of flux while filming is in progress. There was a vid about the submarine passageway where they needed to erect a fake wall, complete with conduit pipes and switches, to block the scene at the end. 1 shot, 2 seconds on screen, 2 days to set up.

hypothesis, some intern on the set pulled the photos from the frames, his lead hand freaked out, told the idiot to leave the set before anything else got ruined and gave the task to another intern to complete. The odds of a writer or producer ever even being advised of the ****up are close to nil. Its not that crucial, unless it is

Relax a bit, and if you have never made a mistake in your life, even the most infinitesimal, I will agree with your assessment of the show.

They explained the Numbers 4 or 5 years ago, they just didn't do it in the show. Anyone who doesn't expect and accept that a show like this in the 21st century is going to have tie-ins to their Internet site is pretty absurd.