Oh it wasnt because I am pretty sure in season one, it sort of was. There are some small lose ends I really dont give a **** for, some didnt matter and some are confusing on purpose. But the Walt thing I call BS on!

FWIW, I don't remember reading about there being NO alternate endings, so I don't know how one would assume that the alternate endings they were going to show on JKL would be fake, especially the way they were teased throughout the show. Why should I assume that a Lost wrap up show would ONLY have fake alternate endings bc Jimmy Kimmel is the host? I could very plausibly see them shooting multiple endings to maintain secrecy or to give them room to change the ending if they wanted to. I do remember reading that they filmed parts of the finale in the middle of the season so people wouldn't know what was in the finale, so they could have very easily shot multiple endings with the ability to pick the one they want based off of how the rest of the season played out.

I wanted to stay up to watch them, but decided to wait til the morning and watch them off my DVR and I'm very glad I did. While they were somewhat humorous, it was a total bait and switch on their part.

I thought there would be an alternate ending where Jack does become Smokey and based off of reading this thread I don't think I'm the only one who thought that when they cut to Jack laying face down outside of the cave of light a la MiB.

Indeed. That's the way I interpreted it the whole time. We assume being Jacob would give HUrley some sway over the island and it's powers, and we know that it can "hold" spirits atoning for past actions, as explained by Michael.

Best parts of the show -> Jack's Journey, Locke's Journey, the character of Ben Linus, Charlie's dealth, Desmond attempt and eventual success at getting back to Penny, character of Daniel Faraday, Sawyer and Mile's dialogue.

Random question but what are the huge mysteries that were never explained?

Not being a dick...just thought about it myself and couldn't come up with a bunch of really important mysteries that weren't given an answer(besides specifically saying what the "island/light" is - I assume the light allows your soul to transcend from the material world to the other side).

-The Numbers
-Walt
-Aaron

being the biggest probably.

Then there's the whole DI thing and obv Ben/Widmore.

wait, wait



So you thought that **** was real? bwhahahahaha

dude it's the jimmy ****in kimmel show.

DI was explained, Ben/Widmore was explained minus any random rules they made for their little fake MIB/Jacob type battle.
Numbers were explained
Walt and Aaron are essentially the same given The Others seemed to take all children. Walt's abilities doesn't really matter because Hurley, Miles, etc all had a abilities and no one is freaking out trying to get answers for them.

I'm so disappointed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDCHj...layer_embedded

Season 6 could have been so ****ing awesome..

We were lead to believe by a admitted fraud psychic who had a real psychic experiance that everything is going to go to **** if Aaron is going to be raised by another (remember that episode? Its title was "Raised by Another" iirc). DI and The Numbers were explained in some web-spinoff, yet the Valenzetti equation doesn't even really tie in with the numbers being associated with the main characters. They are considered "Canon" anyways. Walt was made out to be SUPER important with him being special (remember the episode "Special"?), so no, these things have noit been answered.

Ben/Widmore ends in a way another poster has described in a way I couldn't describe better. There's a huge war coming (for which I spend BILLIONS), so imma hire a 40 year old female scientist, hide with her in a closet and have myself and her killed off in a split second just like any other redshirt.

So Hurley created a special happy place for his friends where Sayid has to watch his brother marry the girl of his dreams and Locke and Ben need to get the crap kicked out of them to find whatever?

I don't that that theory holds up at all.

Nor do I understand why people are guessing at what the sideways is, since we got some pretty heavy handed exposition as to what it was from Christian.

A+

This.

Cuse & Lindelof repeatedly stated they would let the ending stand on its own viewing. Their position was to not discuss, answer questions about, or add any further clarification after the show night of May 23rd.

The comedy shorts they filmed for Kimmel, don't know why they did those, or why any of the cast chose to participate in promotion. In an interview Terry O'Quinn said he would miss the show because it allowed him to travel the world for a fee and free. If he wanted to go to Scotland he'd tell someone and they'd set up a press tour.

No more answers, nothing to see here, move along

The numbers were thoroughly explained with the Valenzetti equation, plus the numbers on the cave wall. Walt is special, and Aaron can't be raised by another... what more do you need to know?

Part of the point of the show, which I feel a lot of people fail to grasp, is that humans impute significance and construct meaning out of things that do not necessarily have any inherent consequence. By believing that these things determine our fate, we will these things to shape our destiny and determine who we are. Jacob highlighted this point when he mocked his own rules, by telling Kate she could have the job if she wanted it, and it was just chalk on a wall (Something I really liked, which most people seemed to hate).

There are no such thing as curses, we create our own luck.

Just reading this thread is bumming me out cuz it just keeps reminding me that the show is actually over and gone for good. There is still a lot of enjoyable TV on with SOA,TB, BB etc but nothing really comes close to the experience of watching LOST imo.

So to everyone who participated in these threads over the last 6 years, even the haters, (and to GS for creating the threads) thanks for being part of an amazing one-of -a-kind ride that was LOST and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7K1A0bh9Cs

CDS
Another great post. No matter how we all feel this show is over and it sucks.

God, I hate wading back into this chalk debate. Lets say you write down 100 things you want to do. Then because of time you begin to shorten the list for brevity sake. You are down to 6 things to do, are you now not able to add 1 more thing to your "bucket list"? Did you specifically make a rule that once you decide that another is more important, the skipped thing is no longer allowable?

The show has disertained many of the rules of Jacob & the island, but not changing ones mind has never been listed as a prime rule.

No. The island at the bottom of the ocean didnt exist. It was part of the purgatory construct of the Losties.

That specific part came from Jack. Note that MiB said he would destroy the island and it would sink. When Jack later died and they together created this dreamscape universe he added this detail because this is the logical conclusion to how the island would not exist in that "waiting room".

Edit, oh and take it as given that the Jughead explosion of the last season was always "the incident" which we learned about in season 2. It either caused the flash in time as well as all the other stuff we knew happened that lead to the Swan being built on top of it OR the island flashed the Losties back to the present because they had now completed that part of their fated life.

There is no real evidence the whisper ghosts wont be released at some point. There is also no evidence what they are walking toward. If it makes you feel better then just assume they get judged for their sins after walking into the light and are then sent to heaven or hell.

He was always bleeding from the neck. I can think of three times it happened, there were probably more. The reason it happened at the intercut "same time" is because its a TV show and it looked cool, but there is logical reasoning to it.

It is basically his subconscious telling him its not real. The others likely had similar reminders, we just didnt see them.

Nah:

As Christian said it was a group creation.

This is one of those situations where there is no veil to be lifted. Take it literally at its word.

Right, isn't it strange that everyone is all hung up on Walt is the way he is but not why Miles is the way he is?

I'm really sorta surprised at the number of people who thought the hayday of the show was during s2-s3. NOTHING HAPPENED. Sure there are a lot of cool moments in the seasons, we learn more about the characters and the end of s3 really starts to move the plot along, but there's about 15 episodes where nothing happens except WAAAAAALTTTTTTTTTTTT and polar bear cages.

Besides it's already been admitted like 100 times by the writers that they were just essentially spinning their wheels for much of that part of the show. Because the network wouldn't negotiate an end date and the ratings were still good. Once the end date was set (sometime mid s3), they started to pretty much abandon the Walt/Aaron stuff, aside from a few random appearances like Walt telling Locke "you've got work to do" which I'll just chalk up to them trying to hard to weave it back in.

Also, lol @ people who don't think Carlton and Damon knew what the flash sideways were when they introduced them in the premiere. The island at the bottom of the ocean just means that whatever this world was, the island wasn't a part of it. It is sort of misleading but who cares, if it makes the ending less predictable in a way that is still consistent, I'm fine with it.

Wow, I feel dumb. You are def right. Just watched it two hours ago, and I am liking the end more and more every minute.

Whats the deal with Desmond? Ever since the episode where the hatch blew up and he was in some alternate space/time with eloise hawking talking about fate and course correcting he has had special abilities.. able to see the future, among other things. In the finale before he goes into the light and is talking to Jack it seems that he might even be aware of the side-universe.

Also curious whats the real deal with the visible dead people. Sometimes they seem to really be the people who died and other times its just the MiB messing around... why did the MiB see his mother as a child? Is it just a form of course correction leading people to their fate?

Maybe fate of non life and death things are more changeable? The characters seem to be following their fate alot of the time but i guess there must be some key decisions which can change it? For example Ben killing Jacob. Maybe Jacob doesnt necessarily know the future but knows how fate is suppose to play out... Ben was not suppose to kill him but in the moment his anger overtook fate and he did?

So VERY this.

Miles, Hurley and probably others have "abilities" and Walt is amongst them. Lost isnt set in our universe, just one very like it. The trouble is Walt's abilities seemed bigger than they were because people just repeated it to themselves that he is important. They basically closed off that loop in the show using webisodes after season 2 (iirc).

Yeah, im the same and im still thinking of new ways to see things. It was Emerson (Ben) who said upon reading the script that it took a bit of thinking and absorbing to get a handle on what happened. Fox (Jack) said similar stuff even though he knew a few more details going into the filming of the finale.

Right now we as viewers in threads like these are mapping out what the finale means and how it all fits together. As i said on page one, welcome to the fastest growing thread in 2+2 history, 1.5 thousand replies in 24 hours (give or take). Amazing.

but why does the island have to be on the bottom of the ocean just because they are in purgatory, also jack died after having successfully stopping mib from getting of the island why would he even think that the island sank?

I can accept that

OK. So there is two things with Desmond:

1, after the hatch blew up he could briefly see into the future, centred around Charlie. As far as im aware that ability went away after Charlie died.
2, at a few points he was able to flash forward and back within his own life until he found Penny, the Constant.

Ignore 1, but 2 is key.

When he was put into the machine by Widmore he DID flash into the purgatory waiting room - specifically he flashed into his own body, however it was now his life + a little bit more (time will be complex in the purgatory construct, its impossible to pin down when it was created since it can fake memories and other people so it might have been as young as the plane flight or as old as when they were all kids, pick your poison).

This was shown specifically in the finale when he said they would all flash to somewhere better. He assumed this was the ending.

What he was doing in purgatory was created AFTER he found Penny as the Constant. That point when he collapsed on the steps in the stadium is when he got the past life flashes and learnt what they need to do.

In real life he knew of the future and what happened after death since the point Widmore put him in the machine. In purgatory he forgot all of it as that was required for them to "let go" and prepare to move on.

Btw note that Ben was not ready to let go and move on. He stayed behind to see more of Alex and come to terms with his own life before moving into the white light.

MiB saw his real mother who was a ghost like Michael and Richard's wife. Whether they are all trapped as whispers is not for me to say, but its not anything more than in that universe people can see dead people sometimes. Everything beyond that is a leap of faith.

Which is entirely what Lost is, a leap of faith.