Were the spoilers that leaked real?

Depends on your specific religious sect. I think most would disagree with you honestly. I'm well aware that many of the sects allow for redemption for any kind of atrocities.

However, do you think child molesters, serial rapists, and chainsaw weilding psychopaths get to go to heaven if they redeem themselves? What about Hitler, Pol Pot, the pope (he allowed his priests to molest kids)?

What if instead of just murdering people, Jack actually molested 6 year old girls on the island? But he protected it at the end so he goes to heaven right? Cool.

Murder does not equal molesting kids, I know. But the point is that they are both egregious crimes.

Pretty much this, though I didn't even like the show to start with when it first aired, just had nothing to do one day and watched the first season and it is very possible to get hooked even on shows you don't find to be very good. Plus Kate is just ridiculously pretty. And so I've been following to see how they'd wrap this up. I don't really mind though, it was a fairly entertaining ride, but people claiming this ludicrous mess of a show is some sort of pinnacle of television is pretty lol. But that's just, like, my opinion, man.

Imo the reason linus didn't go wasn't because of what he did but because he wanted to spend more time with Alex.

It's entirely possible he did, but we won't know unless they make Lost II: The Adventures of Hurley and Ben.

All we do know is that was the moment that the real Jack died. Just like the real MIB died. They both went into the light cave... died.... ???smoke???....their real bodies got spat out of the cave. It's entirely possible another smoke monster was formed like in the MIB situation.

yes, all of them I think

"if we dont learn to live together...we're going to die alone"

puts that in a whole perspective i must say...could this possibly explain the absence of certain people from the "happy ending" in the alt church?

all that ended in the church seemed to have learned to live together while on the island...those absent such as michael, ana lucia, ben, etc. i guess were always causing conflict or acting out of selfishnesss rather than for the greater good of the island/losties.

but still would not explain why faraday/charlotte and miles didnt make it?

yeah I thought the same

Yea, I agree that it is possible, but how much more badass would the ending have been if during the final montage we start hearing smokey sounds, and right as Jack's eye closes, we see Black smoke come out of the waterfall...

L O S T

UGH BAN.

I'm only talking about Christianity as I've made it pretty clear. There are pretty clear requirements for getting into heaven and the types of atrocities you are talking about are entirely irrelevant to those requirements.

To certain degrees yeah, pretty much.

There is a thread in the OOTV forum which has them in that got bumped today, they were pretty accurate about a lot of stuff.

I think the implication is Jack never transformed. MiB's body was dead when spat out to the same place (btw wormholes like the frozen wheel is how that happened), Jack's was alive.

I guess you can form your own conclusions on why. Maybe the island chose not to punish him as he saved it. Maybe Hurley stopped a smoke monster transformation. Maybe the light was too weak at that point. Maybe its because he was already close to death. I dont think it matters but just brainstorm some ideas and pick your favourite if you need to get hung up on the point i guess.

Btw my fave idea is the first one, the island chose not to punish him for entering the heart as a reward for saving it and doing his full duties as a protector.

Yes. Every single one of them was dead on. The biggest spoilers was Desmond and Jack descending into Hell and Rose and Bernard.

Right, but there are many sects of Christianity... wikipedia says there are 38,000 different Christian denominations.

I don't think they all believe that you can murder someone and be redeemed and go to heaven.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._denominations

oh, and LOL at "clear requirements for getting into heaven". You must be joking. The Bible is one of the most contradictory pieces of literature ever written.

wow just read this thread and now i'm lmfao about everyone who thought they'd get every mystery explained...in lost.
srsly that is just epic.

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Pretty much, the finale script page(s) from Italy somewhat explained the waterfall scene. They were generalizations rather than specifics.

I don't think this is a horrible conclusion to make, but we def do not know this. We only know that he was dead when Jacob found him. I think that is most likely because Jack had different intention regarding the island as you said. He did not desire to leave, like the MIB, and he sacrificed himself for the island.

While we are talking about the MIB, why did mother allow Jacob to leave and not him? Also, do people think Mother was a smoke monster and a protector (filled in well and all the dead people)? I was so disappointed with "Across the Sea" I didnt read the thread that week.

I'm not going to turn this into a religious debate, but you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

not really, as i pointed out in that thread we never learn how the island got to the bottom of the ocean

Good way to end a discussion when you don't have any answers.

As expected the finale was more or less awful and added some new ******ed twists instead of explaining any of the things I actually cared about. Well done!

I think we are supposed to assume that it was Jughead, no? I actually think that it is pretty cool that they never explained whether or not the original incident was Jughead being detonated or not. That season 5 finale was soooo good.

Based on thinking - and reading this thread and others at lostpedia - I'm starting to think that maybe Jughead never exploded - and what happened, happened.

Perhaps like Quantum Leap - they were in the past to get Jughead into the Hatch area - where it would somehow be involved in the failsafe system - and when that occurred (or just after) - they leaped back to their normal time.

http://forum.lostpedia.com/theory-bo...ff-t58580.html

lol, whatever makes you sleep well at night. Like I said, I'm not going to turn this thread into a religious discussion, especially with someone who's already showed they don't know what they're talking about.