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i would have accepted just about any ending but this. the made the entire series meaningless. no answers, just everybody meets up after they die to go to 'heaven' together.

Really? You still want to know where the Dharma air drop came from or where Henry Gale came from?

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05-23-2010 , 11:38 PM

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ZBTHorton

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Didn't Jacks Dad say something like

"There is no here" or "There is no when" or something similarly confusing.

Meaning, all of those people might have died at different times?

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05-23-2010 , 11:38 PM

#553

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Haven't read any posts yet....

The way I interpreted it is, that Jack died and that is his own personal heaven. Everything that happened happened. Hurley and Ben are still on the island and will continue to live for whoever knows how long. The people on the plane with Lapidus are still alive etc; I'm thrilled that they decided to keep the past unchanged.

I'm pretty satisfied. They left a lot of doors opened, but they made it clear the show stars and ends with Jack. It was his story, the rest were just supporting characters.

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05-23-2010 , 11:38 PM

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because if the plane flew off the island, which to my understanding it cannot, how are they all dead and chilling together? im just guessing, im a bit lost too, but to me it makes sense the wreckage wasnt a flashback

Time doesn't matter. Everyone on Lepidus' plane died (because every human being dies). But maybe 50 years later.

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05-23-2010 , 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jjshabado

I don't know what the hell happened, but Jack's Dad said that everyone dies and time has no meaning in this place. So I don't think the wreckage was the plane that just took off.

That seemed to be confirmed by the Hurley/Ben conversation where they seem to acknowledge working together on the island for some period of time as #1 and #2.

vg point.

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05-23-2010 , 11:39 PM

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Yup, the on-island stuff happened. When everybody died, they were transplanted to their on-island selves in limbo. Once everybody joined them, they were able to move on. I like it. Unfortunately, Kate should've transplanted to first trip to island self.

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05-23-2010 , 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SoloAJ

"You were a good #1."

"You were a good #2."

They died much later than Jack did, but as Christian said, the timing doesn't matter. They're just all there because they were alone and were all brought together by the island.

The main thing I'm concerned with right now is the significance of Ben not going in, despite clearly having history with Hurley on island, post-Lost.

Why did they all need to go to Heaven (?) together, though?

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05-23-2010 , 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton

Didn't Jacks Dad say something like

"There is no here" or "There is no when" or something similarly confusing.

Meaning, all of those people might have died at different times?

Yes. Exactly this. The Ajira flight got off the island fine and those people probably lived their lives out just as Hurley and Ben lived theirs out on the island.

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05-23-2010 , 11:39 PM

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Sigh, didn't like the ending either. Thought the first 2 hours were going to lead up to a really good ending but it seemed like a let down.

Yeah, the first two hours were pretty decent and brought a lot of the old feel back. The 'shipper pleasing stuff was overly lame, but whatever. The ending, just plain awful. I could have done without the entire flash sideways. It served no purpose at all other than being a red herring and making it so they could be lazy in writing.

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05-23-2010 , 11:39 PM

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Were Richard or Ana Lucia in the ending scene? If not, why weren't they?

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05-23-2010 , 11:39 PM

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Of those of you understanding what's going on, take a shot:

What is the significance of Ben not going into the church?

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05-23-2010 , 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Snamuh

Sigh, didn't like the ending either. Thought the first 2 hours were going to lead up to a really good ending but it seemed like a let down.

I am kind of the opposite. I thought that while I was enjoying the finale, they wouldn't have a chance of trying it up without making me hate the show.

I liked it, although I really am not sure of how all the dots are connected.

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05-23-2010 , 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by agdci981

Really? You still want to know where the Dharma air drop came from or where Henry Gale came from?

I wanted to know the hell Walt could astral project.

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05-23-2010 , 11:40 PM

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I think this was very well done. I'm not sure what's going on though.

Thinking about it more, I like the ending.

I'm on board with the island being real life, but the "sideways timeline" being purgatory-ish in that everyone had to stay there until the whole oceanic group were together at which point they could move on.

Although I'm unhappy about a lot of the magical devices like "The light" and such.

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05-23-2010 , 11:40 PM

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That was easily the best episode of LOST ever. I can't believe it's over. I'm a grown man and I just cried almost the entire time. The entire episode (/show) was amazing, especially the ending.

What a journey!

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05-23-2010 , 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SoloAJ

Of those of you understanding what's going on, take a shot:

What is the significance of Ben not going into the church?

he's not dead.

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05-23-2010 , 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chadmack

i liked the ending

fwiw me too. leaving it open ended really is best.

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05-23-2010 , 11:41 PM

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WHAT ABOUT THE ****ING NUMBERS

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05-23-2010 , 11:41 PM

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why the hell is purgatory another version of life that depends on you finding other people to escape it?

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05-23-2010 , 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by chilin_dude

Phils i thought the wreckage was original reckage. And it actually just crashed and they died and the island was purgatory n till they all understood it they couldnt go to heaven. Jack was last one obv.

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05-23-2010 , 11:41 PM

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The alt timeline is "purgatory" for lack of a better word, but they couldn't leave it until they all remembered their actual lives on island.

I thought it was an awesome episode. All of those flash backs just made me remember how awesome this show was for 6 years. I've never looked forward to a show more than I did with this one, I'm really going to miss it. It's like finishing a book that took you 120 hours to read over a 6 year span.

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05-23-2010 , 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SoloAJ

Of those of you understanding what's going on, take a shot:

What is the significance of Ben not going into the church?

He's not ready to move-on to the after life. Just like some dead people were caught up on the island (which is why you didn't see Walt's Dad) Ben had to work through his issues from real life before moving on.

It goes well with the Purgatory-ish theory.