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07-16-2015, 06:25 PM
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#126
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
http://www.whoismrrobot.com/
Still on board but will be disappointed if it turns out to be Fight Club. It's unnecessary.
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07-16-2015, 06:40 PM
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#127
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It's the other way
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
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Originally Posted by Kurn, son of Mogh
OTOH, I was being sarcastic. Mr. Robot is 100% in Elliot's mind. Nobody just walks into the work area of an internet security firm and sits on the desk at somebody's work station. Reception makes the visitor wait until Elliot comes out and brings him in (and that's only IF they even allow escorted randoms in the office).
A female coworker walks by not 2 feet from the stranger and never even glances at the guy sitting there not dressed like he belongs.
The theory did not get stronger with that scene. It was confirmed with that scene and the bar scene reinforces that. Note the bartender looked at Elliot askance, like he was thinking "this guy's a nut".
You don't need any intermediate scenes to confirm this. The inference should be automatic.
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That's what I said? Prior to that set of scenes it was ambiguous, then those scenes made the theory stronger, but also dumber by putting scenes in where Mr Robot is definitely fake but also that Elliot must have more aggressive delusions offscreen. That's why they didn't show them renting the hotel room and getting into an argument about whether the room would be for 4 adults or 3.
Like, Mr Robot isn't real, and the audience knows that. But the first few episodes, Elliot's interactions with him were generally one on one in situations where ELLIOT could plausibly think Mr Robot is real, where none of the other characters would get weirded out by a dude holding one side of a conversation.
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07-17-2015, 03:11 AM
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#128
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old hand
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
I have been pretty impressed with the series so far. Originally, I was planning on binge watching, but there is too much chatter in forums/threads I regularly monitor.
1.) Did USA hire the guy who used to pick awesome programming for HBO?
2.) While I didn't make the ZOMG it's obvious Mr. Robot is not real leap some itt did, my Spidey Senses were going haywire when Mr. Robot was just chilling at a desk at AllSafe; ditto the bar scene.
Which brings me to:
3.) I will be disappoint if the show is simply Fight Club w/ Linux.
I am holding out hope the show is smart enough to avoid 3.)
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07-17-2015, 08:51 AM
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#129
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
The guy guarding the drug den did but that was part of Elliott's delusion that went on for way too long. Also the black guy but he's probably fake.
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Agreed that the dream sequence doesn't count. Another plausible point is that Mr. Robot also represents a subconscious part of Elliot's personality, so in the motel room when Mr. Robot yell at everybody to just leave, and they leave, that doesn't mean they see him, but that's Elliot taking on that personality to lash out.
From my perspective, nothing at all hints that Mr. Robot is real. The black guy has to be real, the fat guy talks to him.
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07-17-2015, 12:15 PM
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#130
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grinder
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
Also the black guy but he's probably fake.
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What makes you think that?
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07-17-2015, 12:22 PM
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#131
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ɔarpal \ʇunnel
Join Date: Mar 2009
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
Nothing
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07-17-2015, 04:01 PM
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#132
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It's the other way
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
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Originally Posted by Kurn, son of Mogh
Agreed that the dream sequence doesn't count. Another plausible point is that Mr. Robot also represents a subconscious part of Elliot's personality, so in the motel room when Mr. Robot yell at everybody to just leave, and they leave, that doesn't mean they see him, but that's Elliot taking on that personality to lash out.
From my perspective, nothing at all hints that Mr. Robot is real. The black guy has to be real, the fat guy talks to him.
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The scene where Mr Robot yells at the people to leave was sort of cheating. The black guy talks, Mr Robot talks, and then the black guy says something and leaves, but he doesn't really RESPOND to Mr Robot or anything he said.
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07-17-2015, 05:12 PM
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#133
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Born This Way
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: the twilight zone
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
The scene where Mr Robot yells at the people to leave was sort of cheating. The black guy talks, Mr Robot talks, and then the black guy says something and leaves, but he doesn't really RESPOND to Mr Robot or anything he said.
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This was my take on it as well.
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07-18-2015, 07:44 AM
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#134
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veteran
Join Date: Aug 2012
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
****ty ep imo.
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07-20-2015, 12:36 AM
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#135
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: May 2011
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
Fairly sure it should be more titling to the "nit" audience that Angela and Ollie are talking about this scheme in front of a computer in an environment that has already been shown to be under surveillance.
I don't think the show's boring, but it needs to start shoring up focus. It seems to be meandering. They're trying to do something very interesting on TV, but if all the fan theories (or any) are correct, the show's going to end up being wildly derivative of a lot of stuff. Fly's comment about dorm rooms is pretty funny to me (think 2000 would put the creator as a senior in college).
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07-20-2015, 02:36 AM
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#136
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
The writer just said he has this planned as a 4-5 season series, there is no way that they don't confirm to the viewer that Mr. Robot is his imagination this season. So there'll be plenty of story after it.
This episode was weird and quite filler-ish overall, but as a one-off it was okay. Lets hope they don't do this type of stuff again tho  .
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07-21-2015, 06:24 PM
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#137
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
Totally hooked on this show...
cinematically and musically it a gem
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07-22-2015, 02:06 PM
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#138
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I'm gonna need a hacksaw
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Reality
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
Mr Robot is definitely not real. I'm not even sure if it really needs discussion anymore.
Show was okay, but definitely felt like a filler episode. Not much advanced at all.
Also drugs look like fun.
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07-22-2015, 08:08 PM
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#139
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mew mew mew
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
I know nothing about hacking but really liked the pilot.
I've liked the lead since the pacific and christian slater is so good.
only thing I thought was ridic was when he was ranting about society and they flashed a pic of steve jobs, lance armstrong, bill cosby n tom brady.
some of these are not like the others.
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Yeah you have to feel for Armstrong there. What did he ever do that was so bad?
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07-22-2015, 11:00 PM
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#140
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Chicago
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
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Originally Posted by fidstar-poker
Mr Robot is definitely not real. I'm not even sure if it really needs discussion anymore.
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What now
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07-23-2015, 12:47 AM
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#141
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
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Originally Posted by fidstar-poker
Mr Robot is definitely not real. I'm not even sure if it really needs discussion anymore.
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That depends on your definition of "real". The delusions are definitely real and therefore effectual on Elliot and his choices and actions.
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07-23-2015, 01:35 AM
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#142
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old hand
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,847
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
Seems Mr Robot is real
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07-23-2015, 01:52 AM
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#143
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veteran
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3,037
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
Obamacare line was great.
I wish my dog could hold her pee as long as his dog.
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07-23-2015, 02:10 AM
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#144
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
Chuckle at the Steel Mountain reference. Our company irl uses Iron Mountain for backups.
Also unlikely magtape would melt at 95 degrees. At a prior job, we used magtape a lot. In winter the a/c would sometimes overload and freeze up and I'm sure it got north of 95 in there. I would sweat like a buffalo and every once in awhile go outside in the snow to cool off.
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07-23-2015, 02:35 AM
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#145
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I'm gonna need a hacksaw
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Reality
Posts: 30,541
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
Okay I was wrong. Imaginary friends are now real.
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07-23-2015, 02:43 AM
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#146
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old hand
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bodymore, Murdaland
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
This show is pretty great but I find the music rather tilting. It is just a hacky/much worse version of all of Trent Reznor's recent film scores (which are great).
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07-23-2015, 03:00 AM
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#147
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I'm gonna need a hacksaw
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Reality
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
I like the music for the most part. Sort of reflects his state of mind.
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07-23-2015, 03:29 AM
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#148
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old hand
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: NM
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
I thought it was 100% Mr. Robot was a delusion copying Fight Club and no one else, but now it's the white girl hacker and Mr. Robot? It seems to me like every other episode we are going to think someone else is another figment of his imagination until the season finale....
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07-23-2015, 02:36 PM
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#149
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mew mew mew
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 37,640
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
Mr Robot can be both real and a delusion. Maybe sometimes he's actually there and sometimes he's a hallucination?
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07-23-2015, 03:31 PM
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#150
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old hand
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,468
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot
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Originally Posted by Shelldonahue
but now it's the white girl hacker and Mr. Robot?
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I used to think that, but don't anymore. What sort of thing imply that in last ep?
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