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Old 08-17-2016, 11:47 PM   #1051
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

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Old 08-17-2016, 11:59 PM   #1052
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

I don't think anybody called jail. Why is he in jail?
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Old 08-18-2016, 12:32 AM   #1053
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I don't think anybody called jail. Why is he in jail?
Multiple people in this thread actually said precisely jail (well prison but w/e). Also a redditor posted that exact theory as well (https://www.reddit.com/r/MrRobot/com...on_on_elliots/)
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Old 08-18-2016, 12:54 AM   #1054
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Side note: anyone else considering buying the book? I might just for the sake of supporting the show, and it likely will have some cool stuff in it.
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Old 08-18-2016, 10:58 AM   #1055
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

I wonder what he did to be locked up, he must have vandalized something when he was losing his mind or the shrinks boyfriend got him arrested? Still, I doubt he does time for vandalism and he would probably get more time for hacking.
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Old 08-18-2016, 02:24 PM   #1056
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

I think the tor website stuff was real and he's in jail for his involvement.
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Old 08-18-2016, 07:28 PM   #1057
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I'm going to assume that the letter Elliot received was a parole letter. Hopefully that means we can get on with it now.

That story line should have been three episodes top. Two episodes would have been better.
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Old 08-18-2016, 08:04 PM   #1058
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Was that some wacky take on Shawshank?
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Old 08-18-2016, 09:26 PM   #1059
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pretty good "twist" i think

explains a ton of things that sort of bothered me about elliot's actions this season up to this point

i assume leon was a dark army helper
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Old 08-18-2016, 10:52 PM   #1060
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

Anyone else just about had it with this show? Finding it barely watchable after loving it.
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Old 08-18-2016, 10:59 PM   #1061
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Yeah that was bad. They pretty much just decided to stop lying to the audience? No big plot point, just... "OK so we're wrapping up the Craig Robinson plotline, oh and P.S. this other stuff was a lie".

I assumed that ELLIOT was also confused, like this was a delusion of his own that his ****ed up brain had created to cope, but the narration there was pretty much that it was done for the audience's benefit. Like the twist show needed a twist, and they already did Fight Club so this time we did half-assed Shutter Island.

Just completely off the rails.
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Old 08-19-2016, 01:19 AM   #1062
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

ya, and none of these twists were like OMAGAD i did not see that coming but fight club twist werent so uptight about it, they knew the audience knew - but here it seems they ent with WE SO SECRET LOL so when they changed the visuals after the alarm went off and the music went up and tempo to get the blood flowing and you gonna go like AMAGAD and like woooaahhh it kinda went facepalm/embarrased face
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Old 08-19-2016, 02:52 AM   #1063
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Anyone else just about had it with this show? Finding it barely watchable after loving it.
I'm officially out. After 20 mins in the last episode time was going by excruciating slow. Sticking with shows I hate because I feel too invested is such a bad habit of mine especially with so many great tv shows out there.
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Old 08-19-2016, 08:30 AM   #1064
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Watchung basketball every day kind of made it too obvious.
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Old 08-19-2016, 10:15 AM   #1065
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

I'm still a little confused about what represented what.

Was Robinson a security guard at the prison running contrabrand for prisoners via the web site?
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Old 08-19-2016, 10:15 AM   #1066
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Are people actually complaining about this twist when we've been discussing he's either in jail or a mental instutition since E01?

Only thing I'm still curious about is where did Ray fit in? Some corrupt head warden? And how did those guys know Elliott was responsible for the hack? They were connected with Ray and notticed Elliott spending time with Ray or w/e?

I actually thought this was a decent episode. My previous complaints still stand though, nothing of the stuff that doesn't make sense to me was resolved. Actually 1 might be resolved: if Elliott is doing time for a minor hacking offense, it would make sense that Ray found out about him simply because he came to his jail. He doesn't have to know Elliott is fsociety or whatever that way. Though Ray found out during the course of getting to know him that he isn't some simple script kiddie.
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Old 08-19-2016, 10:22 AM   #1067
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

Note quite sure wtf is going on, but still love it somehow
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Old 08-19-2016, 10:25 AM   #1068
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I'm still a little confused about what represented what.

Was Robinson a security guard at the prison running contrabrand for prisoners via the web site?
Ray ran a tor marketplace like The Silk Road: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road_(marketplace)

While the Silk Road was primarily for drugs and was curated (I'm not 100% sure of this, never used it) and thus a bit more innocent, Ray's website offered everything without curation, including human trafficking and murder-for-hire type of deals.

Ray and his wife started the website years ago, and decided to just offer the service and not have any rules or interaction with what is actually happening on the site.

Most likely Ray was a head warden (he kept a regular job so that he wouldn't stand out) and used inmates in for hacking to solve his problems with his website. The ponytail guy saw what was on the site and eventually also showed Elliott. After seeing ponytail guy and Elliott's reactions after actually visiting the website, Ray decides to take a look himself. Seeing what is being offered through his service makes him question the service and the morality of his involvement and eventually he decides to let Elliott use the computer again. Ray knew that if Elliott got on that computer again that he would set a plan in motion that would report him to the FBI (Ray), but having seen what was happening on the website that is what he wanted.
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Old 08-19-2016, 10:44 AM   #1069
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thinking ray was a prisoner who pseudo ran the prison probably makes me racist

him being a wardenish thing makes more sense

makes sense now why elliot had to use his computer for the interwebs
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Old 08-19-2016, 11:06 AM   #1070
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^^^That mostly seems right. The part that seems a little thin to me is that Ray had no trouble acting like a total gangsta towards Elliot and Ponytail, torturing Ponytail in front of his family and beating the **** out of Elliot, but he happens to peek at the stuff being trafficked on HIS OWN WEBSITE and suddenly becomes born again? Like, he draws a hard line at human trafficking or hits for hire and is willing to go to prison because he has enabled it?

Other pieces I'm still trying to puzzle out:

1. Tyrell can't really be dead, can he? We heard him make that phone call back in the s2 premier. Seems like they are just trying to set up another twist.

2. What is the Elliot - Joanna connection, and why was she paying off the parking lot attendant where Elliot woke up after 5/9? When did Elliot run into her on the street pushing the stroller? Wasn't that this season, after he was already supposed to be in what we now know to be prison (or is my timeline off)?

3. In the wake of 5/9, there doesn't seem to be enough time elapsing for him to have done another crime (even a minor one), gotten caught, tried, convicted, and sentenced. I'm thinking all that must have happened before the series starts, and he is out on parole when we first meet him, with regularly scheduled visits to his psychiatrist in the terms of parole. Maybe he skips a couple of meetings with her and thus has to serve out his sentence back in prison?

4. But if my theory 3. above is true, his crime couldn't really have been hacking related, because no way he gets that job at Gideon's internet security company with a cyber crime conviction. So maybe back to him going nuts at work and destroying a bunch of property, or whatever he told Darlene in the flashback. We'd need another explanation for how Ray comes to know he is a super hacker, but that could be easily done.

Questions that lead to more questions...
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Old 08-19-2016, 11:08 AM   #1071
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I don't think anybody called jail. Why is he in jail?
Obviously he was in jail (or asylum).

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Old 08-19-2016, 11:16 AM   #1072
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This theory doesn't take a whole lot to figure out.

What did you guys think was the reason he was having lunch with that same guy everyday? Clearly they are only doing it because of being forced in some way.

Also, notice that they go and watch basketball everyday in the same place. That is a prison yard basketball game you can probably guarantee it.
Larry called this right away.
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Old 08-19-2016, 11:30 AM   #1073
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2. What is the Elliot - Joanna connection, and why was she paying off the parking lot attendant where Elliot woke up after 5/9? When did Elliot run into her on the street pushing the stroller? Wasn't that this season, after he was already supposed to be in what we now know to be prison (or is my timeline off)?

3. In the wake of 5/9, there doesn't seem to be enough time elapsing for him to have done another crime (even a minor one), gotten caught, tried, convicted, and sentenced. I'm thinking all that must have happened before the series starts, and he is out on parole when we first meet him, with regularly scheduled visits to his psychiatrist in the terms of parole. Maybe he skips a couple of meetings with her and thus has to serve out his sentence back in prison?
2. That was the finale of last season when he ran into her.

3. He completed whatever contract he had with Krista last season and he went back to her at least once when it was no longer required.
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Old 08-19-2016, 12:11 PM   #1074
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^^^That mostly seems right. The part that seems a little thin to me is that Ray had no trouble acting like a total gangsta towards Elliot and Ponytail, torturing Ponytail in front of his family and beating the **** out of Elliot, but he happens to peek at the stuff being trafficked on HIS OWN WEBSITE and suddenly becomes born again? Like, he draws a hard line at human trafficking or hits for hire and is willing to go to prison because he has enabled it?

Other pieces I'm still trying to puzzle out:

1. Tyrell can't really be dead, can he? We heard him make that phone call back in the s2 premier. Seems like they are just trying to set up another twist.

2. What is the Elliot - Joanna connection, and why was she paying off the parking lot attendant where Elliot woke up after 5/9? When did Elliot run into her on the street pushing the stroller? Wasn't that this season, after he was already supposed to be in what we now know to be prison (or is my timeline off)?

3. In the wake of 5/9, there doesn't seem to be enough time elapsing for him to have done another crime (even a minor one), gotten caught, tried, convicted, and sentenced. I'm thinking all that must have happened before the series starts, and he is out on parole when we first meet him, with regularly scheduled visits to his psychiatrist in the terms of parole. Maybe he skips a couple of meetings with her and thus has to serve out his sentence back in prison?

4. But if my theory 3. above is true, his crime couldn't really have been hacking related, because no way he gets that job at Gideon's internet security company with a cyber crime conviction. So maybe back to him going nuts at work and destroying a bunch of property, or whatever he told Darlene in the flashback. We'd need another explanation for how Ray comes to know he is a super hacker, but that could be easily done.

Questions that lead to more questions...
1. By any tv-show standards there is a 0% chance Tyrell is dead. This is Mr. Robot though .

2. Joanne running into Elliott was S finale of S1. I read a decent theory that the weird stuff Joanne is doing is part of a plan to "proof" Tyrell his innocense and to let her current boyfriend take the fall. It was mentionned this episode that she met het BF at an Ecorps party, it seemed like the type of line that wasn't insignificant.

3. Possibly he got a minor sentence for hacking Krista's BF her phone and stealing his dog. Iirc there was a minor cliffhanger in the S1 finale about him having some proof on Elliott or something?
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Old 08-19-2016, 12:53 PM   #1075
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Perhaps Joanna knows elliot killed tyrell and was happy he got killed? Waiting for that severance package $. Remember when she told tyrell that he wasn't fit to be a part of their family?

When she ran into elliot it seemed like she knew him and was surprised when he was asking about tyrell.
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