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Old 07-28-2016, 05:53 PM   #926
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This was a weird episode, probably my least favorite of the series. Still found it OK, but unlike 3 first episodes I felt let down. Next episode should put things into higher gear again.
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Old 07-28-2016, 06:40 PM   #927
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This was a weird episode, probably my least favorite of the series. Still found it OK, but unlike 3 first episodes I felt let down. Next episode should put things into higher gear again.
I had the opposite reaction and felt like this episode got the show moving forward finally.

I'm really hoping now that the "Mental Institution" theory proves to be bs. At this point I'd rather that Elliot did really go back to live with his mom and he is just wandering around the neighborhood.

At least we finally got to know why Elliot had court mandated therapy.

Angela as usual in over her head and overplaying her hand.

Really hoping that Tyrell isn't dead but it seems more and more likely.
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Old 07-28-2016, 07:06 PM   #928
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I had the opposite reaction and felt like this episode got the show moving forward finally.

I'm really hoping now that the "Mental Institution" theory proves to be bs. At this point I'd rather that Elliot did really go back to live with his mom and he is just wandering around the neighborhood.

At least we finally got to know why Elliot had court mandated therapy.

Angela as usual in over her head and overplaying her hand.

Really hoping that Tyrell isn't dead but it seems more and more likely.
why else would he need to help that guy to get computer access though? That episode dropped more hints than ever before that he is committed
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Old 07-28-2016, 07:09 PM   #929
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

Haven't looked on the subreddit but TOR really doesn't have any thing to do with "server migration"
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Old 07-28-2016, 08:08 PM   #930
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why else would he need to help that guy to get computer access though? That episode dropped more hints than ever before that he is committed
Well I "hope" that it's not the case but it probably is.

It would be 3rd level thinking to make it seem like Elliot's current situation is an illusion and then turn around and have us find out that's it 100% real except for his dad.
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Old 07-28-2016, 10:53 PM   #931
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At least the plot's moving forward now, and it was largely a fairly straightforward episode (with way too much exposition). Nothing changed this week to make it seem any less likely that Elliot's in an institution. I still think Robinson is "playing" a shrink, though I just had the thought that maybe he's working for someone. Sam is clearly a big fan of House of Cards (3 cast members from the show that I can think of right now), and the FBI running a hacker was a major storyline in that show. I find it excruciatingly hard to believe that Robinson's some deep web guy that would use a hacker in a mental institution (unless under different pretenses). That seems extraordinarily far fetched to me, potentially making Robinson's storyline even more confusing. I guess we'll just have to see where it goes.

My other out there theory is based on that initial scene with Darlene. Doesn't it seem pretty unlikely that Elliot only got anger management for destroying a bunch of servers? Because of that, I almost (the real life scenes of other people destroy this notion) feel like nothing's actually happened yet. We had a chess game (multiple moves ahead), the constant fight of Mr. Robot and Elliot leading to a stalemate, Elliot saying what happens after the hack being the hardest part, and probably a few other things. So, this really could be Elliot running simulations through his head of possible outcomes, and the scene at the end could be the "actual" beginning of the hack. That's a way out there theory, that would basically render season 1 as terrible television, but there it is. I think Sam likes effing with the audience, and I think he likes putting random clues into the storyline, such as stuff like the book burning that was brought up in the thread. I'm trying not to figure stuff out anymore, because it's going somewhere now.

Andrew Beal, I have no reason to doubt the guy was the parking attendant, but why did she refer to him as a bartender? Is that just a dumb mistake?

When doing some research on the ratings this season (they're very very bad), I stumbled on to a Sepinwall article about last night's show (can't stand reading him usually). He normally plays shill for people who give him access, so I was pretty surprised to see him basically rip into the episode (and the others really) for being way too long. He also said he would be very disappointed if Elliot does end up being in a mental institution and most of this isn't real (polarization being the only reason for that I can think of). He made sure to lead with a somewhat entertaining tweet from Sam for what I'm presuming is damage control in case the article isn't received well.

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Ahead of tonight's #MrRobot I want to apologize for the extra long ep (again). Next week will be shorter. Again, sorry for being so long-win
Sam Esmail (@samesmail) July 27, 2016
I think for people who grasped the "locked up" angle in the 2 part first episode, the length probably isn't that big of a deal (at least not at the level he's bothered by it). But when you think this stuff is actually happening, it can be really problematic as just plain boring without any kind of real point. I think a fairly decent portion of the audience has no clue that he could be in an institution, and those are probably the ones that are leaving fastest. This is the Hannibal Effect in full effect. To underline that assessment, here are the ratings for the season so far:

Episode 1&2 (night 1): 0.4 in the 18-49 demo with 1.040 million viewers (bad but kind of the new normal for a lot of renewed shows on basic cable)

Episode 3 (night 2): 0.3 in the 18-49 demo with 799k viewers (really bad, with a loss of nearly 1/4 of its night 1 audience)

Episode 4 (night 3): 0.26 in the 18-49 demo with 637k viewers (life support type numbers)

It's fairly astonishing for the second season of a show to have this level of audience loss in 2 weeks. It's lost nearly 40 percent of its audience, and I doubt we've seen the valley (I think the lowest episode will be next week, and then it will stabilize unless it just goes off the deep end story wise). Strangely, TV by the Numbers said the show was "steady" with last week, when that's clearly not the case, with another loss of 162k viewers. It's incredible how bad of a spot USA put themselves in with this show. I can't see any way they can get rid of a money loser like this is going to be for the next several years. It would also be very hard to get rid of Sam and reboot, because he's very close to being an auteur on it. Hannibal is the closest you can get to a show with this kind of performance that got kept longer than it should have been. The difference is that Hannibal never got a single Emmy nomination, which in comparison to this show is rather astonishing, considering how great seasons 1 and 2 of Hannibal were (far better than this, in my opinion). With Mr. Robot's prestige for USA, they're probably going to be stuck with it for a long time unless they just pull the plug on it after this season (would have to be unprecedented if it happens).
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Old 07-28-2016, 10:54 PM   #932
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

I liked the scene where the reporter lady called Angela a prostitute. My first thought two seconds in was, "ugh, everyone's heard this anecdote." Then I was like, "woah, she gutted her." It was surprisingly effective and I don't know why.
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Old 07-28-2016, 11:43 PM   #933
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I think the low ratings reflect that this really isn't a show you want to watch in the summer. The first season it was a new experience so you watched. When there is great weather outside, why do you want to watch a dark show like Mr. Robot? Its also a very depressing show, especially the first 3 episodes of Season 2. In Season 1, Elliot also used his superpowers for good and we haven't seen that yet this season.
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Old 07-29-2016, 01:13 AM   #934
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I recommend the 360 virtual reality episode available from the Within app. I used a cardboard VR device and a smartphone and it was fun to watch.


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Old 07-29-2016, 01:34 AM   #935
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So Elliott killed Wellick, right? that's part of the three days that's missing. We saw Elliott reach into the popcorn machine for the gun...FBI found a shell casing...

I still don't know why Joanna has to pay off the parking attendant...what does he know?

Also, who the eff was the geeky Chinese dude and the Amazon blond in Elliott's dream??
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Old 07-29-2016, 01:40 AM   #936
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I did like Joanna's evisceration of her new BF, even as she was trying to be sincere and loving.
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Old 07-29-2016, 02:31 AM   #937
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Andrew Beal, I have no reason to doubt the guy was the parking attendant, but why did she refer to him as a bartender? Is that just a dumb mistake?
Guy in the car w/ bodyguard dude that they're paying off = parking attendant (I didn't recognize him either but sure, that makes sense)
Bartender guy = dude she's banging, different guy from guy that was in the car
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Old 07-29-2016, 02:45 AM   #938
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Wow, thought that was the same person...lol.
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Old 07-29-2016, 03:19 AM   #939
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Andrew Beal, I have no reason to doubt the guy was the parking attendant, but why did she refer to him as a bartender? Is that just a dumb mistake?
Guy in the car w/ bodyguard dude that they're paying off = parking attendant (I didn't recognize him either but sure, that makes sense)
Bartender guy = dude she's banging, different guy from guy that was in the car
this, they showed the lot in the background when he left the car.

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Old 07-29-2016, 03:23 AM   #940
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Have they showed the parking attendant other times this season? I guess that can be a problem with such disjointed storytelling. I still don't know why I thought we were seeing the same person as her new boyfriend...again...wow.
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Old 07-29-2016, 03:42 AM   #941
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Have they showed the parking attendant other times this season?
don't think so.

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he worked at allsafe and went to that dinner at gideon's with elliot, shayla, angela and ollie.
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Old 07-29-2016, 08:52 AM   #942
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Also, who the eff was the geeky Chinese dude and the Amazon blond in Elliott's dream??
SMH


LLOYD!!

Elliot's pod mate

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In season 1 Gideon invites Lloyd, Elliot and Angela to a dinner party at his house. Lloyd shows up alone because Lloyd. He is a typical IT nerd who is terrible with women so in Elliot's dream Lloyd has a super hot blond model gf.
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Old 07-29-2016, 10:24 AM   #943
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So Elliott killed Wellick, right? that's part of the three days that's missing. We saw Elliott reach into the popcorn machine for the gun...FBI found a shell casing...
But Wellick was the one who called Elliot at the end of double episode season 2 premiere. That phone call seemed to take place after the 3 day blackout. Obviously, they could be messing with either the timeline or Elliot could have imagined the phone call, but I don't think that's the case.

I still think most likely explanation is that Elliot took the gun out of the popcorn machine, attempted to shoot himself, couldn't go through with it and flinched as he pulled the trigger (thus grazing his head). That would explain the bandage he was wearing, the repeated hallucinations of Mr Robot shooting him, and be a possible explanation for being locked up in a mental institution.
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Old 07-29-2016, 11:29 AM   #944
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That would explain the bandage he was wearing, the repeated hallucinations of Mr Robot shooting him, and be a possible explanation for being locked up in a mental institution.
But he's not locked up per last episodes conversation with Darlene. Darlene asks him why he is where he is and he says he could go back and live in his apartment but then he would be tempted by internet access. At least according to Elliot the main reason he is at his "moms's house" is so that Mr Robot can't do anything.
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Old 07-29-2016, 11:48 AM   #945
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The whole thing with that being his mom and being at his mom's house seems too off to be reality. Has she interacted with him at all? Seems more likely she is like a receptionist or something at the facility he is staying at and he is hallucinating her to be his mother.

When he says he could go back and live in his apartment, maybe he means he knows he could act normal enough to pass their evaluations in order to get released. Of course, I could be completely wrong about all of it, but that is a lot of what I enjoy about this show. I like trying to figure out what's going on and then all of a sudden feeling blindsided by a scene.
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Old 07-29-2016, 04:41 PM   #946
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While I liked the last episode, show is solidly in the 'don't think about it too much' category. Will watch just to see what happens. At some point things got too convoluted. And I have no faith that the effort to understand will be rewarded.
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Old 07-29-2016, 05:42 PM   #947
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Considering we had a bunch of escaped prisoners and an unsolved/undiscovered murder by the drug dealer never pay off, that's probably a wise decision. That's the mode I switched to after this week.
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Old 07-29-2016, 05:47 PM   #948
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The Careful Massacre of the Bourgeoisie! https://www.whoismrrobot.com/massacre/
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Old 07-29-2016, 08:36 PM   #949
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I still love everything about this show. The gist of all the complaints is that a whacked out show with a whacked out premise isn't resolving into something familiar and comfortable. I am perfectly happy with that. Esmail's vision continues to be fully realized in a way I think is brilliant. I want to see where he goes with it.
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Old 07-30-2016, 12:55 AM   #950
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i have no idea whats going on anymore

still enjoy it

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