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Old 08-13-2015, 10:29 PM   #351
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yeah except angela has mentioned that elliot's father is dead (at the dinner with gideon). so if robot is alive he faked his own death. but if he fakes his own death then why is he casually walking into allsafe?
IF mr. robot is alive and he did stroll into All Corp, it could be that Angela is in on it too and we just haven't been revealed that part yet... Her mom died cuz of E-Corp, and she'd be the only one at All Corp who'd theoretically recognize Elliot's father. So theoretically she could be wanting to get back at E-Corp too thru f-society and the show just is slowly going to reveal that side of her.
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Old 08-13-2015, 10:33 PM   #352
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

At this point I think it's reasonable to assume that all speculation is going to be wrong.
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Old 08-13-2015, 10:37 PM   #353
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yeah except angela has mentioned that elliot's father is dead (at the dinner with gideon). so if robot is alive he faked his own death. but if he fakes his own death then why is he casually walking into allsafe?
yeah you made me remember that scene at allsafe which looked incredibly weird, theres like no way he exists.

And Young-Evil-Corp-Dude was probably talking about knowing Elliots secret in the car, the secret just being his thing he left open in evil corps system.

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Old 08-13-2015, 10:51 PM   #354
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Why I think Mr Robot is alive, one theory...:

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Old 08-13-2015, 10:54 PM   #355
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yeah you made me remember that scene at allsafe which looked incredibly weird, theres like no way he exists.

And Young-Evil-Corp-Dude was probably talking about knowing Elliots secret in the car, the secret just being his thing he left open in evil corps system.
Tyrell also says something about how letting the secret out would "hurt ones you know and love." Does he say that to Elliot? Who does Elliot have in his life he's close to?
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Old 08-13-2015, 10:55 PM   #356
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

wait...

so your theory is that BOTH are true and that he's been imagining himself with another personality/his father AND that his father is not dead? That would seem like extremely bad writing

also he imagines his father the exact same way that he looks? (like Tyrell saw him)



And loved one is probably Angela
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Old 08-14-2015, 12:02 AM   #357
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

Beyond Mr Robot possibly faking his own death or being fake, the more interesting development is from just before that:

1) What is wrong with Elliott that he forgot an entire huge part of his life? And from Darlene's reaction, it wasn't the first time it happened.

2) Why doesn't Elliot exist on the internet? What was that scene about?



That **** all raised so many questions it's almost pointless to speculate, we don't even know what level the show is operating on as far as lying to the audience. Elliot explicitly broke the fourth wall to acknowledge that the audience is his invisible friend who gets to view an edited-for-pace version of his life, for God's sake.
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Old 08-14-2015, 12:12 AM   #358
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

could've just been that he's blocking memories from his past since his father died and its now this sick trauma.

It does seem weirder than that tho, especially with your 2nd question.



*** from my earlier post just realized the playstation thing was already answered
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Old 08-14-2015, 12:18 AM   #359
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

My interpretation, FWIW, is that scene confirms Mr Robot is fake. He's a manifestation of his dead Dad. That makes the scene with Tyrell weird, but you never know.

The thing is, all the "Mr. Robot talking to other people scenes", Mr Robot doesn't talk like Elliot at all. He's glib and snarky while Elliot is all awkward and mopey. So that really is Fight Club, Mr. Robot is the version of Elliot he wishes he could be, revenge-oriented and not crippled by social anxiety and drug problems.
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Old 08-14-2015, 12:35 AM   #360
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

This show is deep, man.
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Old 08-14-2015, 12:37 AM   #361
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It's a trip, man.
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Old 08-14-2015, 12:59 AM   #362
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Every week I'm like this is the best show ever then the following week just smashes the previous episode. Trajectory of this show is like a straight up line imo, no idea how long they can possibly maintain this pace, but I'm sure as hell enjoying it
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Old 08-14-2015, 04:59 AM   #363
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

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Beyond Mr Robot possibly faking his own death or being fake, the more interesting development is from just before that:

1) What is wrong with Elliott that he forgot an entire huge part of his life? And from Darlene's reaction, it wasn't the first time it happened.

2) Why doesn't Elliot exist on the internet? What was that scene about?
The way I saw it, he doesn't exist and doesn't remember who he is because he erased himself. Similarly to what he does with other people when he stores data about them in encrypted disk and wipes it off of computer, but instead he went a step further and wiped his online presence and his mind.

What condition results in such level of delusion I'm not sure. His new personality is named Eliot while the one he erased might or might not be and he may be hearing people calling him Eliot same way he hears Evil corp everywhere.

I'd guess his new identity took over > month ago, shortly before he started talking with us. As said by Angela in ep4 that he's only been born for one month and he's not Eliot.
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Old 08-14-2015, 09:38 AM   #364
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

The faces of Elliot from the mirror scene

http://imgur.com/a/0CKOn
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Old 08-14-2015, 11:50 AM   #365
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Why I think Mr Robot is alive, one theory...:

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Except Tyrell doesn't know this part. For all he knows he loves his sister etc.
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Old 08-14-2015, 11:56 AM   #366
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

there was a discussion on reddit about that controller pic and basically it seems like it has to be a PS3 controller. So it could just be a continuity error because PS3 didn't come out until late 2006
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Old 08-14-2015, 12:06 PM   #367
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

Christian Slater was 12 when Rami Malek was born. Even if you allow for a little creative license with the actors' actual ages, Mr. Robot still doesn't appear to be old enough to be Elliot's father if they're both currently alive and being represented accurately.
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Old 08-14-2015, 12:16 PM   #368
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

I could believe Elliot is like 25-30 couldn't you?
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Old 08-14-2015, 12:20 PM   #369
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

Or Slater's character is the remembered image of Elliot's father 10 years earlier.
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Old 08-14-2015, 12:25 PM   #370
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I could believe Elliot is like 25-30 couldn't you?
Yeah sure, but I can't imagine Christian Slater being any older than his actual age (45). That's really pushing the limits of credibility.
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Old 08-14-2015, 12:30 PM   #371
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Yeah sure, but I can't imagine Christian Slater being any older than his actual age (45). That's really pushing the limits of credibility.
Thats fine then just imagine Elliot as 25-26 and you're golden. People have kids when they're 20, it happens.
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Old 08-14-2015, 12:31 PM   #372
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

I'm going to go with Mr Robot is Elliot's dad and is alive. I don't have any evidence to support my claim and the evidence seems to support the alternative (Robot is Elliot's alter-ego). However, as many times as this show has surprised me I'm sure there is a way they could write it such that all of the scenes in which Mr Robot was made to see not real were red herrings. Who knows, he could be the ****ing CEO of E CORP and E CORP stands for Elliot Corp
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Old 08-14-2015, 01:43 PM   #373
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

If Mr. Robot is Elliot's alter-ego then who the hell pushed Elliot off the Pier?
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Old 08-14-2015, 02:09 PM   #374
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Witnesses said he jumped.
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Old 08-14-2015, 03:20 PM   #375
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everyone already thought he jumped to kill himself, its not a big stretch that... he jumped... lol

in fact it barely makes sense if mrrobot exists that he would actually just push him off the pier
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