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Old 08-09-2015, 04:28 AM   #301
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

Sweet Emmy is a nurturer of weirdos! And so freaking hot.
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Old 08-09-2015, 09:44 PM   #302
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tyrell is white rose?
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Old 08-09-2015, 09:49 PM   #303
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I think he's involved with or running the Dark Army, so sure, why not?
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Old 08-10-2015, 04:17 AM   #304
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Tyrell- white guy; Tyrells on Game of Thrones = roses, so Tyrell = White Rose

I like the unreliable narrator quality of the show. Episode 6 was great.

When Mr. Robot was talking to Darlene and the black guy, it was just Elliot in his alternate personality talking to them. I'm thinking that the Season 1 finale will be the reveal that Mr. Robot was Elliot's alter ego all along and that everything Mr. Robot did was just Elliot doing it. It would be too obvious and boring to keep this charade up for the whole series.

Tyrell's wife is intriguing- she's like the biggest baddie on the show right now.

Shayla's death does serve a plot purpose- to unhinge Elliot, make him have nothing to lose, and unleash his full potential.

Theory: Fernando Vega didn't have Shayla killed- his brother Isaac did. Remember Isaac was the last person that we saw with Shayla (taking her out of the diner) before we saw her dead, so Isaac was probably the one who killed her. And we know that Isaac didn't want Fernando to get out of jail, and killing Shayla would decrease the chances of Elliot's success.

Out there theory: Tyrell is actually an android trying to take over the world by taking over the world's biggest corporation- the real titular Mr. Robot. That would explain why he looks down on ordinary people, lacks basic social skills, and is so good with computers. His wife is also an android. That would also explain the cold, calculating personality and why she could drink wine even though she was very pregnant.
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Old 08-10-2015, 04:31 AM   #305
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Out there theory: Tyrell is actually an android trying to take over the world by taking over the world's biggest corporation- the real titular Mr. Robot. That would explain why he looks down on ordinary people, lacks basic social skills, and is so good with computers. His wife is also an android. That would also explain the cold, calculating personality and why she could drink wine even though she was very pregnant.
Doesn't really explained why he was emotionally struggling after killing her.
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Old 08-10-2015, 04:37 AM   #306
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But what if it's not an unreliable narrator?

If Fernando didn't order Shayla's death, why did he know about it without having said a word to anyone before telling Elliott to open the trunk? He knew, so he ordered it. He told Elliott she was his, which is his way of saying if he can't have her no one can.

I don't think Shayla's death unhinged Elliott. He seems about the same to me. The Shayla relationship never made any sense anyway. He didn't really like her in the Pilot, and he was really pining for Angela who's completely disappeared from his life as of now (or has she?), even though she's completely available and he would be a good asset for her to have for what she's doing. I suppose it's also possible I don't remember some huge falling out between them.
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Old 08-10-2015, 04:38 AM   #307
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Doesn't really explained why he was emotionally struggling after killing her.
Or why he showed emotion when he was out "cocked" in the previous episode.
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Old 08-10-2015, 05:15 AM   #308
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Doesn't really explained why he was emotionally struggling after killing her.
Maybe he was programmed with a somewhat defective emotion chip.

Yeah, Fernando was probably the one who ordered Shayla's death, but Isaac's probably the one who killed her, or maybe even suggested to Fernando to have Shayla killed.

I just read a theory on another forum that Mr. Robot is the real character and Elliot and everything that happens to him is the character who is all made up in Mr. Robot's mind.
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Old 08-10-2015, 07:38 AM   #309
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tyrell is white rose?
I much more like the theory that it's his wife
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Old 08-10-2015, 02:40 PM   #310
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There's not much to tell. He had a "vibe". The best way I can describe that vibe is that the disdain the Elliott character has for people is pretty much exactly the vibe he gave off to me (a constant sizing people up type thing, and the guy is really tall). That kind of vibe makes you want to have short interactions with the person (I only occasionally interacted with him). He had an odd air of ego, condescension, and sarcasm all wrapped in one. All of those aspects of his personality are in the show, and they're a big reason why the show is so interesting. It's much less interesting in a real life person, so this was only said for color.

It's not hard to find out the job he was doing before he got the show (and the movie he wrote/directed prior), and how unlikely this job is to turn into where he is now at the age he was doing that job so soon after. That's more likely for someone passing through in their early 20s, not early 30s. It is an insanely impressive (exceptionally rare) accomplishment, and I am very proud of him for it. It was jaw dropping seeing his name when I put the show on. But I'll stop bringing it up, even though certain scenes play really interesting when you actually know the guy (window into the soul type of thing).
It seems like he was a fairly skilled screenwriter as many of his specs landed on the Blacklist since 2008. I guess this show started out a spec feature and then he changed it into a TV series. More and more it seems studio execs are willing to gamble on first time showrunners - sometimes it works: True Detective and Mr Robot, and sometimes it fails...Extant.

Given he had directed a feature it probably made it an easier decision for them.
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Old 08-10-2015, 02:54 PM   #311
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Him getting to direct the Pilot is a big deal, so yes you're right about pretty much all you say. I've never seen anyone have the job that he had using it as a waystation to screenwriting/show creating (my company had two other people who had stuff on the Blacklist as well, but they went a much different route than he did). In the job he originally had, he was more in the post-production grind (on the theoretical path of an editor, though he moved into a different position that wouldn't have led to editing or really anywhere outside of forms of production management).

He obviously has the pedigree school wise to end up where he did, but he took a very odd detour to get there. He just really must have had no interest in film sets at all (two types of people in the industry, production and post-production...rarely do people like both).
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Old 08-12-2015, 11:27 AM   #312
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But is the average Joe from the public aware that he may not be real? Like you say it's USA network and a reveal may actually be a surprise to many who aren't sitting on forums chatting about it.

I mean I read it first before I had realized that he may not be real. Admittedly it was back after episode 1. Who knows how long it would have taken for me to catch on that it was a possibility (if at all).
Well, but that theory was EVERYWHERE on the internet, and if there's one show whose audience can be trusted to know what twitter and reddit are, it's this one.

But yeah, at this point, it would be a big twist to the average Joe watcher for him to be fake, because the last few episodes keep having Mr Robot do **** when Elliot isn't around, so if you didn't already have that belief you certainly wouldn't be able to get on board with it now.

So while people came up with that theory because the show set it up, it's now sort of refuted that theory, and for the show to go "LOL he was fake all along, we just changed the rules between episodes" is unnecessary and cheap. However, lots of TV is unnecessary and cheap, so I still really do think they are just straight up lifting the Fight Club plot.
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Old 08-12-2015, 11:48 AM   #313
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

I think we need a separate thread for people who know the writer to post in.
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Old 08-12-2015, 11:49 AM   #314
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Well, but that theory was EVERYWHERE on the internet, and if there's one show whose audience can be trusted to know what twitter and reddit are, it's this one.

But yeah, at this point, it would be a big twist to the average Joe watcher for him to be fake, because the last few episodes keep having Mr Robot do **** when Elliot isn't around, so if you didn't already have that belief you certainly wouldn't be able to get on board with it now.

So while people came up with that theory because the show set it up, it's now sort of refuted that theory, and for the show to go "LOL he was fake all along, we just changed the rules between episodes" is unnecessary and cheap. However, lots of TV is unnecessary and cheap, so I still really do think they are just straight up lifting the Fight Club plot.

This is information from Sam's Reddit AmA so I'll spoiler it. It doesn't give up any plot details but it does touch on this.

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Old 08-12-2015, 06:08 PM   #315
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Out there theory: Tyrell is actually an android trying to take over the world by taking over the world's biggest corporation- the real titular Mr. Robot. That would explain why he looks down on ordinary people, lacks basic social skills, and is so good with computers. His wife is also an android. That would also explain the cold, calculating personality and why she could drink wine even though she was very pregnant.
I ****ing love this theory and hope it's correct.
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Old 08-12-2015, 08:06 PM   #316
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Just rewatched the last scene of the last episode. If that one scene doesn't get Rami Malek an Emmy, I don't know what does.
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Old 08-12-2015, 11:07 PM   #317
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Old 08-12-2015, 11:08 PM   #318
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Well that explains things
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Old 08-12-2015, 11:09 PM   #319
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Well I am super entertained.
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Old 08-12-2015, 11:12 PM   #320
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I think they only talked about their mothers dying so he is probably alive. I could be misremembering. Makes sense he is on this revenge path. Ellliot's psychosis is way worse than I thought.

Bateman's wife still a bad *****
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Old 08-12-2015, 11:19 PM   #321
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Well I am super entertained.
+1 - One again, didn't see any of that coming.

Something happened a year ago to Elliot. In the previous episode his shrink said they were done with their 1 year of sessions - possibly court ordered? Did he have some kind of schizophrenic break that required him to be on meds that he isn't taking?
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Old 08-13-2015, 12:20 AM   #322
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Holy **** that ending. WOW.
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Old 08-13-2015, 12:36 AM   #323
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I'm complete shook from that ending. I was super confused how Darlene and Angela knew each other at the ballet scene in the intro, now it all makes sense.

So is it now confirmed Mr Robot is real and is Elliots father... or is Mr Robot simply Elliot's manifestation of his alter ego is the form of his dead father?

It was clear from watching this show that it had a ton of potential, and I think tonight's episode launched it into Tier 1 for me. I haven't felt this way after watching an episode of tv since Breaking Bad episode Ozymandias
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Old 08-13-2015, 12:53 AM   #324
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Re: New Show- Mr. Robot

Still talking to myself here, but the meeting with mr robot and Tyrell can have a meaning regardless of whether robot is alive or not.

1. Elliots alter ego is his dead fathers image: the secret Tyrell is refering to is Elliot planting the evidence incriminating the old CTO (most likely to me, aorn)

2. Mr Robot is alive and is Elliot's dad: the secret Tyrell is referring to is something else we don't know, or maybe him faking his death (doesn't make too much sense though as to why this would be a big secret he wouldn't want out)

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Old 08-13-2015, 01:11 AM   #325
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I have no idea what is going on in this show, and I love it. And yeah, I was super confused as to how Darlene and Angela knew each other, spent the whole beginning of the show trying to figure out if they had met each other yet like when Angela and Shayla had hung out together.
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