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07-14-2016 , 10:43 AM
This theory doesn't take a whole lot to figure out.

What did you guys think was the reason he was having lunch with that same guy everyday? Clearly they are only doing it because of being forced in some way.

Also, notice that they go and watch basketball everyday in the same place. That is a prison yard basketball game you can probably guarantee it.
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07-14-2016 , 10:43 AM
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All these post show talk shows really just need to die.
I quite enjoy them in shows where you can easily miss something like this and GoT. I hate talking dead though.
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07-14-2016 , 11:04 AM
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This theory doesn't take a whole lot to figure out.

What did you guys think was the reason he was having lunch with that same guy everyday? Clearly they are only doing it because of being forced in some way.

Also, notice that they go and watch basketball everyday in the same place. That is a prison yard basketball game you can probably guarantee it.
Seems like a significant and important difference between a mental institution and prison tho.
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07-14-2016 , 01:42 PM
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So is the dude that Tyrell's wife is banging the same one that Darlene was shown with out on the balcony last season?
I don't think so.

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Ah, that makes sense.

I like the "committed" theory. Not sure how the dude's dog fits in with that, but it wouldn't be the biggest hallucination he's had.
Maybe he's not a hallucination, but rather a social worker sort of dude trying to help Elliott.
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07-14-2016 , 04:35 PM
That scene with burning the money was amazing.

The end scene confirms Tyrell is alive right? Mr. Robot waited until Elliott was asleep to give Elliott what he wants, a contact with Tyrell?

I hope the show can continue to walk the line with being bat**** crazy and still delivering story progress and answers, imo these 2 first episodes felt a bit disappointing on that front for being the season opening.

Elliott is deff locked up in some sort of low sec mental institution. He probably tried to kill himself at the end of S1 (when he grabbed the gun) and whatever followed led to him being taken into a mental institution.



Odds Gideon hit was orchestrated by Mr. Robot? It would be an awesome reveal down the line with Gideon threatening Elliott and Mr. Robot neutralizing the threat.



PSA: IMDB seems to has full appearance credits for S2 so stay the **** away. I was able to close it before seeing too much.
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07-14-2016 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Maybe he's not a hallucination, but rather a social worker sort of dude trying to help Elliott.
I think he is an orderly/pet therapy type guy who needs Elliot's help with something.
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07-14-2016 , 05:09 PM
Am I supposed to like the new FBI lady?

Because the way she was presented in her first scene was very confusing. She's all super friendly and chatty and nice with the shop owner but then is one of those people that doesn't seem to give a **** that there are four people in line behind her whose time she is wasting. I'd tell her to hurry the **** up too. I found her super annoying in just that short scene.

Gideon probably survives. The rule is always if you don't see them die onscreen then they aren't dead. Doesn't seem like this show would do that, but then why not shoot him in the head? The neck shot is an easy way to explain his survival. We know he did talk to the FBI though so I imagine that the FBI lady will be paying Elliot a visit soon.
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07-14-2016 , 07:29 PM
Like last season I don't know wtf is going on. I like it.
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07-14-2016 , 09:41 PM
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Seems like a significant and important difference between a mental institution and prison tho.
Well some type of forced detention
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07-14-2016 , 09:46 PM
They also chose a song called daydream by Lupe Fiasco when they introduced Elliot's new "routine.". Seems a little on the nose, but that was my first clue.
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07-15-2016 , 04:41 AM
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Odds Gideon hit was orchestrated by Mr. Robot? It would be an awesome reveal down the line with Gideon threatening Elliott and Mr. Robot neutralizing the threat.
This seems pretty likely. I imagine the guy shooting Gideon could be a former patient at whatever institution Elliott is at currently.
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07-15-2016 , 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MarsMuzak
Seems like a significant and important difference between a mental institution and prison tho.
Not really. Regimented life. Security types watching every move. Fellow inmates/patients from the fringes of society. Prison and involuntary commitment are pretty much analogous.
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07-15-2016 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Kurn, son of Mogh
Not really. Regimented life. Security types watching every move. Fellow inmates/patients from the fringes of society. Prison and involuntary commitment are pretty much analogous.
Sorry, I wasn't talking about in general. I meant as it relates to Elliot's character and the story. Prison would imply that we've missed a whole lot since last season ended for him to be arrested for something, convicted, sentenced and now carrying out that sentence.

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Elliott is deff locked up in some sort of low sec mental institution. He probably tried to kill himself at the end of S1 (when he grabbed the gun) and whatever followed led to him being taken into a mental institution..
This seems most likely right. Would explain the bandaged head and the recurring hallucination that Mr. Robot is shooting him.

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That scene with burning the money was amazing.
I am probably over analyzing it, but I just can't make sense of using the Phil Collins song during this sequence. The music is fine, but the lyrics don't seem it fit at all.

Edit: ok maybe they aren't as far off as I thought:

Seems so long I've been waiting
Still don't know what for
There's no point escaping
I don't worry anymore
I can't come out to find you
I don't like to go outside
They can't turn off my feelings
Like they're turning off a light
But I, I don't mind

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07-15-2016 , 12:45 PM
"a lot of people think this next song is just about going home, taking me home. in fact the way i wrote this was a very much darker song, i know some of these songs are dark, but i'm quite a happy person. the way i see this song was about the cuckoo's nest, one flew over the cuckoo's nest. they won't let me write with anything sharp in here... take me home because i don't remember..."

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07-15-2016 , 03:05 PM
Alright yea I'm on board with shooting himself, what if he is dead and this season is just a giant trip until you find out he's hallucinating it all.
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07-15-2016 , 03:31 PM
I was curious to see what book Hot Carla was burning so I went back and watched and it is

Waiting for Godot - by Samuel Beckett

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waiting_for_Godot

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It has a pretty large wiki page with lots of interruptions of the meaning.

At it's heart though it's a play about nothing...

So two references about nothing which means?
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07-15-2016 , 09:03 PM
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07-16-2016 , 02:37 AM
I'm still digging this show and will give it every opportunity -

- but the last show that tried something like this, Hannibal (season 3) completely blew it despite being an elite show up to that point.

never go full hannibal
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07-16-2016 , 02:40 AM
also - its petty, but I'm not that thrilled about the way usa is listing their shows. I had 5 mr robots recorded this week on my dvr despite having it set to only record new episodes. 2 combined parts 1 and 2, a separate 1 and 2, and the aftershow.

they don't need to label every single repeat multiple airing as 'new', and the aftershow could have its own name.
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07-16-2016 , 07:30 AM
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I was curious to see what book Hot Carla was burning so I went back and watched and it is

Waiting for Godot - by Samuel Beckett

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waiting_for_Godot



It has a pretty large wiki page with lots of interruptions of the meaning.

At it's heart though it's a play about nothing...

So two references about nothing which means?
It's actually kinda used like an expression here, for when people waste their lives/putting their life on hold waiting for something that everybody else knows wont come. Maybe Elliott is trying to wait until Mr. Robot goes away but it wont ever happen? Idk
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07-16-2016 , 09:46 AM
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I'm still digging this show and will give it every opportunity -

- but the last show that tried something like this, Hannibal (season 3) completely blew it despite being an elite show up to that point.

never go full hannibal
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07-16-2016 , 12:35 PM
Meh. I thought first season was only okay and now season 2?

While I appreciate the effort and what they are trying to do here I am not really enjoying it all that much. Probably continue to watch but not with the effort and focus necessary. Won't try to figure any thing out but just take it as it comes.
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07-18-2016 , 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RollWave
I'm still digging this show and will give it every opportunity -

- but the last show that tried something like this, Hannibal (season 3) completely blew it despite being an elite show up to that point.

never go full hannibal


Sam very clearly has a lot of skill as a writer and director, but he's going way past the line of accessibility for the show with this season. Last season was accessible to a niche audience, but this is way far outside of anything that a mass audience would be interested in. I'm kind of expecting ratings to drop a bit soon, though the niche audience might be ground in by now. In a way, it's kind of funny that so few people watch USA's prestige show, and I'm not really sure how they can get rid of it if the ratings tank.

Elliott being committed seems like a solid theory. Attempted suicide also seems like a solid theory. Was the door knock the very last shot of season 1?
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07-18-2016 , 07:21 AM
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Sam very clearly has a lot of skill as a writer and director, but he's going way past the line of accessibility for the show with this season. Last season was accessible to a niche audience, but this is way far outside of anything that a mass audience would be interested in. I'm kind of expecting ratings to drop a bit soon, though the niche audience might be ground in by now. In a way, it's kind of funny that so few people watch USA's prestige show, and I'm not really sure how they can get rid of it if the ratings tank.

Elliott being committed seems like a solid theory. Attempted suicide also seems like a solid theory. Was the door knock the very last shot of season 1?
Door knock next to last. It was followed by the mansion with the rich people party where the E CEO and white rose met up.

The finale episode began with the therapist and her ex boyfriend talking and the guy trying to get info out of her about Elliot because he had been hacked. So maybe the door knock is her getting him committed. He was mandated to see her for a year for whatever reason, so maybe she turns him in for some type of probation violation.
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07-18-2016 , 03:51 PM
Assuming Elliot is in a mental institution, I really hope he gets out in the next couple of episodes and he realizes what we see now is made up. I don't mind whats going on now but I don't want half a season like this.
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