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01-07-2018 , 04:17 AM

Yeti

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There were 32 ballots, consisting of 315 nominations. In total we voted for 96 unique shows.

#20 to #11

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You'll notice that I used 1st place votes as a tiebreaker where available, including to crown the winner. I'll post some more detailed stats in the next few posts.

For now, bring on the discussion! What placed too high/too low? Predictions for 2018? Westworld to repeat in a GoT-less and Leftovers-less year?

Lastly, remember that a lot of people use this thread to choose what shows to watch next, so please keep it spoiler-free.

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01-07-2018 , 04:40 AM

Yeti

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Top 20 by Network:

HBO 4
Netflix 4
AMC 2
FX 2
Hulu 1
Showtime 1
Adult Swim 1
USA 1
Comedy Central 1
Syfy 1
Starz 1
IFC 1

Other shows that all received a single first place vote:

Sneaky Pete
13 Reasons Why
Planet Earth II
Manhunt: Unabomber
Vice Principals
Doctor Who
Taskmaster
The Detour
You're The Worst

Top 20, sorted by Average Score (for all you LYNCH fans):

#	Show	Votes	Points	1st Place	Average
6	TWIN PEAKS	8	69	6	8.63
1	THE LEFTOVERS	15	120	7	8.00
14	THE EXPANSE	4	32	0	8.00
2	BETTER CALL SAUL	17	120	3	7.06
8	HALT AND CATCH FIRE	8	56	0	7.00
11	LEGION	5	34	0	6.80
20	BROCKMIRE	4	26	1	6.50
13	NATHAN FOR YOU	5	32	1	6.40
3	THE HANDMAID'S TALE	14	89	2	6.36
10	MR. ROBOT	8	47	2	5.88
15	SILICON VALLEY	5	29	0	5.80
17	OZARK	5	28	0	5.60
7	FARGO	11	61	0	5.55
19	BLACK SAILS	5	27	0	5.40
4	GAME OF THRONES	14	74	1	5.29
5	MINDHUNTER	14	70	0	5.00
9	RICK AND MORTY	10	50	0	5.00
16	MASTER OF NONE	6	29	0	4.83
12	VEEP	7	33	0	4.71
18	BOJACK HORSEMAN	6	28	0	4.67

Full list of nominees, sorted by total points:

#	Show	Votes	Points	1st Place	Average
1	THE LEFTOVERS	15	120	7	8.00
2	BETTER CALL SAUL	17	120	3	7.06
3	THE HANDMAID'S TALE	14	89	2	6.36
4	GAME OF THRONES	14	74	1	5.29
5	MINDHUNTER	14	70	0	5.00
6	TWIN PEAKS	8	69	6	8.63
7	FARGO	11	61	0	5.55
8	HALT AND CATCH FIRE	8	56	0	7.00
9	RICK AND MORTY	10	50	0	5.00
10	MR. ROBOT	8	47	2	5.88
11	LEGION	5	34	0	6.80
12	VEEP	7	33	0	4.71
13	NATHAN FOR YOU	5	32	1	6.40
14	THE EXPANSE	4	32	0	8.00
15	SILICON VALLEY	5	29	0	5.80
16	MASTER OF NONE	6	29	0	4.83
17	OZARK	5	28	0	5.60
18	BOJACK HORSEMAN	6	28	0	4.67
19	BLACK SAILS	5	27	0	5.40
20	BROCKMIRE	4	26	1	6.50
21	BLACK MIRROR	5	26	0	5.20
22	THE GOOD PLACE	5	25	0	5.00
23	AMERICAN VANDAL	6	24	0	4.00
24	NARCOS	4	23	0	5.75
25	STRANGER THINGS	5	23	0	4.60
26	SNEAKY PETE	4	22	1	5.50
27	DARK	3	22	0	7.33
28	SHERLOCK	3	22	0	7.33
29	LAST WEEK TONIGHT	4	22	0	5.50
30	13 REASONS WHY	2	19	1	9.50
31	THE DEUCE	5	19	0	3.80
32	PLANET EARTH II	2	18	1	9.00
33	CURB YOUR ENTHUSIASM	3	18	0	6.00
34	THE CROWN	3	16	0	5.33
35	MANHUNT: UNABOMBER	2	15	1	7.50
36	VICE PRINCIPALS	3	14	1	4.67
37	BETTER THINGS	3	14	0	4.67
38	GODLESS	3	14	0	4.67
39	PEAKY BLINDERS	2	12	0	6.00
40	CRAZY EX-GIRLFRIEND	2	11	0	5.50
41	SHAMELESS	4	11	0	2.75
42	DOCTOR WHO	1	10	1	10.00
43	TASKMASTER	1	10	1	10.00
44	THE DETOUR	1	10	1	10.00
45	YOU'RE THE WORST	1	10	1	10.00
46	BIG MOUTH	2	10	0	5.00
47	BILLIONS	2	10	0	5.00
48	GLOW	2	10	0	5.00
49	FEUD	1	9	0	9.00
50	THE AMERICANS	1	9	0	9.00
51	DICE	2	9	0	4.50
52	IMPRACTICAL JOKERS	1	8	0	8.00
53	LOVE	1	8	0	8.00
54	SEARCH PARTY	1	8	0	8.00
55	SURVIVOR	1	8	0	8.00
56	PATRIOT	2	8	0	4.00
57	AMERICAN GODS	3	8	0	2.67
58	BIG LITTLE LIES	3	8	0	2.67
59	THE PUNISHER	3	8	0	2.67
60	BLUE PLANET 2	1	7	0	7.00
61	BROOKLYN NINE NINE	1	7	0	7.00
62	HOUSE OF CARDS	1	7	0	7.00
63	LE BUREAU DES LÉGENDES (THE BUREAU)	1	7	0	7.00
64	BROAD CITY	1	6	0	6.00
65	NEW GIRL	1	6	0	6.00
66	THE FOSTERS	1	6	0	6.00
67	LAST CHANCE U	2	6	0	3.00
68	TABOO	2	6	0	3.00
69	8 OUT OF 10 CATS DOES COUNTDOWN	1	5	0	5.00
70	BIG BROTHER	1	5	0	5.00
71	HOW TO GET AWAY WITH MURDER	1	5	0	5.00
72	WASTELAND	1	5	0	5.00
73	GIRLS	2	5	0	2.50
74	SOUTH PARK	2	5	0	2.50
75	THE MARVELOUS MRS. MAISEL	2	5	0	2.50
76	AMERICAN DAD	1	4	0	4.00
77	ATYPICAL	1	4	0	4.00
78	PREACHER	1	4	0	4.00
79	THE DETECTORISTS	1	4	0	4.00
80	THE MICK	1	4	0	4.00
81	BASKETS	1	3	0	3.00
82	F IS FOR FAMILY	1	3	0	3.00
83	NORSEMEN	1	3	0	3.00
84	SANTA CLARITA DIET	1	3	0	3.00
85	SHARK TANK	1	3	0	3.00
86	STRIKE	1	3	0	3.00
87	THE 100	1	3	0	3.00
88	HOMELAND	1	2	0	2.00
89	REVIEW	1	2	0	2.00
90	THIS IS US	1	2	0	2.00
91	FUTURE MAN	1	1	0	1.00
92	LETTERKENNY	1	1	0	1.00
93	LIFE IN PIECES	1	1	0	1.00
94	MR. MERCEDES	1	1	0	1.00
95	TOP OF THE LAKE: CHINA GIRL	1	1	0	1.00
96	UMBRE	1	1	0	1.00

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01-07-2018 , 05:08 AM

xnbomb

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What a putrid list I've put together lol. 99% of my TV watching is when I'm playing poker so it's almost all low content

1/2 of my list didn't get a vote other than mine hahaha.

Definitely thought American vandal would do much better, I thought that was a really strong show.

might need to check out the leftovers.

thanks for running, yeti

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01-07-2018 , 06:22 AM

Gaddy

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Pretty good list, top three and 6 of top 10 same as mine. We recognize Mr Robot much higher than the critics. The Leftovers is mislabeled as AMC in the reveal, though it seems to be tallied correctly in the network rankings.

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01-07-2018 , 06:25 AM

Gaddy

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Oh, and glad no one put The Walking Dead.

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01-07-2018 , 06:32 AM

Yeti

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fixed, thanks gaddy

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Definitely thought American vandal would do much better, I thought that was a really strong show.

i noticed 1-2 people in the noms thread didn't like it at all, so it's clearly not for everybody, but i just think it's more a case of not a lot of people watched it yet. it's not a well known show and it doesn't have its own OOTV thread so it's flown under the radar a little. 2-3 more people voting for it could have easily propelled it to #12 or so.

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01-07-2018 , 07:05 AM

6ix

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The Leftovers? How?

Does the 3rd season start with Poochy dying on the return trip to his home planet?

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01-07-2018 , 08:09 AM

Kamikam

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Ozark > Black Mirror ? Ouch. Thought Ozark pilot was super dark and promising, but show defo didn't live up to its first episode.

Hey I got the top 3 right thought (in a different order).

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01-07-2018 , 11:54 AM

master3004

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Originally Posted by Kamikam

Ozark > Black Mirror ? Ouch. Thought Ozark pilot was super dark and promising, but show defo didn't live up to its first episode.

Hey I got the top 3 right thought (in a different order).

So I was the one who gave YTW a first place vote. Disappointed but not surprised to see it outside of the top 20. For those who are watchers who didn't have it on their list, was it due to the perceived decline in quality between s3 and s4?

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01-07-2018 , 01:10 PM

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72off

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Originally Posted by 6ix

The Leftovers? How?

Does the 3rd season start with Poochy dying on the return trip to his home planet?

basically, yes

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01-07-2018 , 02:24 PM

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mrbaseball

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Only 4 of my picks made the top 20 which I kind of expected. Lots of stuff I hated did well which I also expected. After 3 episodes of the Leftovers I couldn't stop watching it soon enough. Really don't like anything about Mr. Robot, The Expanse, Black Sails or Black Mirror either. The rest of the top 20 I either haven't seen yet or have no problem with them being there.

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01-07-2018 , 03:50 PM

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1. Vice Principals- Great dark comedy
2. Bojack Horseman-Great depressing comedy
3. Love Great emotional comedy
4. Curb Your Enthusiasm
5. Broad City
6. Silicon Valley
7. Better Things Great single-parenting comedy
8. Rick and Morty
9. The Leftovers
10. Master of None

Shows that are worth watching that got little to no votes.

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01-07-2018 , 07:40 PM

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Gaddy

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Similar to Game of Thrones for me. They were in my top 10 last year and every year they've been around before that, but I thought the writing had some big issues this season (sorry fsoyars).

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01-07-2018 , 07:42 PM

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Gaddy

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I was lukewarm on The Leftovers most of the way, but the last season really grabbed me and elevated the whole series in my perception. I think it's the best series finale since The Shield.

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01-07-2018 , 10:33 PM

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Didn't vote, but in no way could I see Master of None and Bojack Horseman not making top 10. I'd have had both in my top five surely.

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01-07-2018 , 10:46 PM

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Never seen The Leftovers and I haven't seen The Handmaid's Tale, either.

Glad to see The Expanse so high

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01-07-2018 , 10:49 PM

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Never seen The Leftovers and I haven't seen The Handmaid's Tale, either.

Glad to see The Expanse so high

Sounds like your in luck.

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01-07-2018 , 10:51 PM

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Dominic

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...why?

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01-08-2018 , 12:51 AM

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They are good

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01-08-2018 , 01:45 AM

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I haven't watched The Leftovers. Possibly I watched the first episode & then didn't bother continuing. Probably should give another go.

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01-08-2018 , 05:50 AM

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gwp

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Thanks for taking the time to do this.

Small error spotted. BoJack Horseman listed at 24 and 71.

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01-08-2018 , 07:06 AM

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Yeti

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ah, that's incredible annoying. against my better judgment, i went ahead and fixed everything. bojack is now in the top 20 and black mirror drops out.

no pointing out any more mistakes please!

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01-08-2018 , 07:17 AM

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Kamikam

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I haven't watched The Leftovers. Possibly I watched the first episode & then didn't bother continuing. Probably should give another go.

Season one was merely okay, season two is insanely good, season three was very good. There is a huge quality gap between the first season and the last two.

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Never seen The Leftovers and I haven't seen The Handmaid's Tale, either.

From what I've read from you, I don't see how you could possibly not love them both.

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01-08-2018 , 12:02 PM

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Eltin

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Dark not even top 20? mabye to recent or subtitles scare people off but its the best show i've watched in quite some time, and I do watch alot of shows. Its really really good, I am a sucker for time travel though.