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01-21-2016 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight Making a Murderer
You guys should just change the title to "steven avery is not guilty" if you do not want people of my opinion here.
It was an interesting discussion before you started bogging down the thread with overly biased statements of guilt without being even willing to consider any of the things that made the doc interesting to people (The possibility of police corruptions and an unfair court system)
01-21-2016 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004 Making a Murderer
Of course they didnt. Why on earth would they show the same confession a second time? It's essentially the same footage just said to a different person. Do you have any idea how to filmmake bro? What you are suggesting is redundancy and is not needed when you have a certain length of time yoy can make an episode.
Oh jfc.. You don't even know when you're being duped. I feel sorry for you.
01-21-2016 , 07:23 PM
I guess I thought the point of this thread was different than the actual point of this thread. Its a conspiracy thread.. got it.
01-21-2016 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight Making a Murderer
Oh jfc.. You don't even know when you're being duped. I feel sorry for you.
I don't care how you feel about me. I really only care that you have taken the enjoyment out of this thread for nearly everyone. Congrats, your terrible posting has ruined another thread.

Good luck everyone else.
01-21-2016 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight Making a Murderer
Lol.. So we will always have this suspicion I guess.
Yes, we will. And here is the exact reason:

Calumet officer looking for evidence:



Manitowoc officer looking for evidence after 6 searches of the same area:



Yup, WE are being duped.
01-21-2016 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight Making a Murderer
You guys should just change the title to "steven avery is not guilty" if you do not want people of my opinion here.
You should change the title to "Haven't Seen Making a Murderer but have cherry picked internet seach items that fit my beliefs that no cop would ever do anything wrong"
01-21-2016 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight Making a Murderer
This question is specifically to Lost, do you think there was reasonable doubt in the casey anthony trial?
Since I never saw anything about the case, I don't think it's fair to make any statements about it. Once I do actually watch something credible concerning it and do some research of credible sources, I'll make a reasonable analysis. Fair?

Last edited by lostinthesaus; 01-21-2016 at 08:25 PM.
01-21-2016 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus Making a Murderer
Since I never saw anything about the case, I don't think it's fair to make any statements about it. Once I do actually watch something credible concerning it, I'll make a reasonable analysis. Fair?
Sure, and i have seen the docuseries. I just know it is biased, especially after reading trial transcripts and seeing what they selected for us to watch. Citing that as authority here is silly.
01-21-2016 , 08:25 PM
if you are curious I believe casey anthony should have been found not guilty but I think she did it. Just so you know I do reach that conclusion :P And I watched a lot of that trial as it was going on.
01-21-2016 , 08:28 PM
Most of the time when I ask you a question, it is just to get you thinking. I already know what was claimed in the show on these examples. They tried to imply manitwoc was banned from assisting in this investigation.. This is not true. They were not banned. No one ordered them not to go.
01-21-2016 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TheJacob Making a Murderer
I think steven avery is likely guilty, but don't understand how anyone can buy the narrative put forward and believe in the integrity of all the evidence.
The trial's narrative or the filmmakers' narrative? They are not the same.



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Originally Posted by Andro Making a Murderer
This thread really went down the dumpster ever since fraley started trolling the **** out of it. A shame because the start of the thread was very interesting.
Lol holy **** you're so ****ing ignorant!

Sorry for calling you out specifically, this applies to at least 80% of posters in this thread.

Fraley is one of the only people here who has actually done his research on the actual trial.

If you guys want to play pretend in you're masturbatory little fantasy narrative the show has crafted for you, then I guess you can say Fraley is trolling you.

But if you want to discuss the actual case, and you declare that Fraley, the jury, the entire justice system, etc. are wrong based on watching the show?

Then sorry, but you're nothing but a bunch of morons with a lot of hubris.


If you want to know more, here's a decent start:
http://stevenaverycase.com/what-maki...idnt-tell-you/
01-21-2016 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mesmerized Making a Murderer
where is the info on this? surely if police had warned him to stay away/stop harrassing her there would be a note of it somewhere and then why did she go there anyway?
I'm fairly certain he's conflating the incident where Steven Avery was told to stay away from Jodi for 72 hours.
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Originally Posted by fraleyight Making a Murderer
says who?

Neither of those are entirely true. It is possible he arrived before they started the sign in protocol.


yes, lenk was involved in the case.. SO what? Why do you think this was not allowed?
He gave two times for his arrive that were 4 hours apart. Why? If he just forgot, why didn't he say that instead of giving a wrong time?
01-21-2016 , 09:00 PM
Ugh, a mod really needs to either lock, or heavily mod this thread. This is basically the Knox thread all over again.

Either cite a specific source (don't just link a Reddit thread) or don't post an argument.

Also, fraley and skillz, people don't care about your opinion of Avery. They're mad because you make bad arguments that lack logic, and do so repeatedly.

I think the average reader/poster of this thread is in the "who knows if Avery did it, he clearly didn't receive a fair trial".

Last edited by EfromPegTown; 01-21-2016 at 09:08 PM.
01-21-2016 , 09:02 PM
In which people are arguing with someone who is intentionally spelling the names of everyone involved in the case wrong and outright trolling.

This thread is bad. Whoever is in charge of moderating this thread is bad at his job and should feel bad about himself.
01-21-2016 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PoorSkillz Making a Murderer
Fraley is one of the only people here who has actually done his research on the actual trial.
Well since he constantly need answers to his questions about the case, I highly doubt this. Seems more like he has been visiting your website http://stevenaverycase.com/what-maki...idnt-tell-you/
01-21-2016 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ASPoker8 Making a Murderer
In which people are arguing with someone who is intentionally spelling the names of everyone involved in the case wrong and outright trolling.

This thread is bad. Whoever is in charge of moderating this thread is bad at his job and should feel bad about himself.
Agreed on the spelling part, although I admit I've mispelled names quite a few times.

Also, I think he and PoorSkillz keep it interesting. Fact checking all his stupid assertions is actually quite informative. Rage inducing, but interesting nonetheless.
01-21-2016 , 09:10 PM
I don't actually need answers Lost, I am asking you those questions to get you thinking. I know what the documentary taught you about the case.
01-21-2016 , 09:12 PM
I wasn't intentionally misspelling names either. that is how I thought their names were spelled. Why does that even matter?
01-21-2016 , 09:13 PM
I make bad logical arguments? Holy ****, like the constant Post hoc ergo propter hoc
fallacy I see from everyone arguing with me? no, you guys are using bad logic. not me.
01-21-2016 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight Making a Murderer
I wasn't intentionally misspelling names either. that is how I thought their names were spelled. Why does that even matter?
Because PoorSkillz is stating that you actually researched the case. Which would mean that you should know how the names were spelled. Yet you do the exact same misspelling every time, even though multiple posters have pointed this out. It's actually kind of weird.
01-21-2016 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by problemeliminator Making a Murderer
I'm fairly certain he's conflating the incident where Steven Avery was told to stay away from Jodi for 72 hours.

He gave two times for his arrive that were 4 hours apart. Why? If he just forgot, why didn't he say that instead of giving a wrong time?
Both times his confession was approximate times. Did you read his transcript in court or are you again basing everything you know about this case off the documentary?
01-21-2016 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight Making a Murderer
I make bad logical arguments? Holy ****, like the constant Post hoc ergo propter hoc
fallacy I see from everyone arguing with me? no, you guys are using bad logic. not me.
LOL - "The bullet in her head"

Nothing further.
01-21-2016 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus Making a Murderer
Because PoorSkillz is stating that you actually researched the case. Which would mean that you should know how the names were spelled. Yet you do the exact same misspelling every time, even though multiple posters have pointed this out. It's actually kind of weird.
I am used to typing his name as "Stevan" because that is how someone I know spells his name. It is out of habit. And, no not necessarily. I am fairly certain after talking to you that I have did more research into this than you. it has been crammed over a short period of time though, like 2 weeks.
01-21-2016 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight Making a Murderer
Both times his confession was approximate times. Did you read his transcript in court or are you again basing everything you know about this case off the documentary?
LOL, we can watch video of his exact testimony in court, but the transcript is more credible.
01-21-2016 , 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight Making a Murderer
I am used to typing his name as "Stevan" because that is how someone I now spells his name. It is out of habit. And, no not necessarily. I am fairly certain after talking to you that I have did more research into this than you. it has been crammed over a short period of time though, like 2 weeks.
I call.

      
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