Ohh geez, he ate her now... That's a real hottake..

Ohh lookie lookie the Judge & ada, da dispute the decision's lmao....

It seems worthless is getting her fictional murder stories mixed up.

Looks like they didn't notice that the exculpatory evidence that the medical examination that showed there was never any rape was suppressed.

What a surprise.

Yeah the judge who vacated the convictions setting the former defendants free, that judge. Legally a conviction can be wrongful (via unfair due process, corruption incompetent counsel etc) even if the defendant is factually guilty. The defendant could also be innocent to clarify, such as Avery was for rape. But even cases which yield compensation due to unfair due process doesn't mean the defendant is innocent either. Bridgewater Four is a good example re the UK, or this bloke who keeps insisting he was "exonerated" when court makes a point of saying he was almost certainly guilty AF, just the conviction was unsound.



Kern county is another case where again some of those involved weren't necessarily innocent, even if their convictions were deemed legally unsound.

That's the thing CV, we're not disputing that mistakes happen, what we're saying is the system US/UK can and should be improved, we have great thinkers who also believe this & I'm sure you do too? If that is indeed the case can you show me some cases where innocent people were wrongfully convicted.

She PM'd me, something something moran...

Any imperfect fallible system can always do with reform & plenty of cases exist where factually innocent people were wrongfully convicted, Avery being a prime example when wrongfully convicted of rape. In terms of investigation he was a reasonable suspect, but happened to be innocent & got done due to a flawed system. In the UK you had the Birmingham Six, Guildford Four, Stefan Kiszko, in Ireland Dean Lyons (a case where a false confession did occur, which nobody is arguing against also.) In the US apart from Avery I believe the San Antonio Four were more than likely innocent & was glad they got their certificate of innocence.
Craig Coley is another good example of factually innocent people being wrongfully convicted in his case for nearly 40 years.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-c...-idUSKBN1DN1XK

People like Mr Coley who lost nearly four decades of his life have my genuine & deepest sympathies.

But again nobody is arguing such things don't occur, or indeed frame ups by corrupt elements of LE, but not only is there no evidence of a frame up in the Teresa Halbach case, it doesn't even sound plausible or credible for several pertinent valid reasons, which have already been thoroughly covered itt.

But posting links to stories about corrupt LE, withheld evidence or wrongful convictions in general in no way helps supporters case here as again nobody is arguing such things don't happen, the reasoning among supporters appears to be that they happen ergo happened here, which is where the illogicality comes into play.

Only relevant things supporters can do is provide exculpatory evidence, evidence of corruption, cite clear inarguable examples of unfair due process or coercion & habeas violations re Dassey, if they wish to be taken seriously. Everything else is just blah, really.

But wrongful convictions of factual innocents absolutely exist & it's sad you people waste your time advocating for people who are in fact truly guilty AF & prioritize baseless implausible conspiracy theories over the evidence which is extraordinarily disrespectful to the victim, her family & investigators who did an honest job convicting both & for which no evidence exists of misconduct on their part. It's a pity you don't campaign for those who very probably are innocent & wrongfully convicted, instead of innocence fraudsters like Avery & Dassey.

There's a bullet I dodged.

Recent update:

Kathleen Zellner announces she is working to free corrupt cop Daniel Holtzclaw and calls his rape victims "mentally ill drug addicts, improperly joined (as a gang)"!

https://twitter.com/ZellnerLaw/statu...40625626071040

In before corpus vile declares he is cuddly.

No doubt followed by something like this....

michelle
michelle
@shelly68699
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@ZellnerLaw
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@michellemalkin
Daniel was a scapegoat for the ‘white Police’ looking out for the injustices targeted towards African Americans. The whole case is bull****.

I’ll be a happy girl when the detectives that treated him so disgustingly are behind bars.

All he wanted to do was serve his country.

Considering I come from 1 off the most violent city's in Europe, he's got a lot to learn before PMing me again.. Rude words just won't cut it tbh... I've heard worse from a 10year old everyday in my Job. Lmao

That corpus continues to champion the law enforcement employees who framed Steven twice as 'honest' speaks volumes about the sort of blind loyalty to bullies wearing badges that is too prevalent in society.

It sure wasn't 'respectful' to Penny Beerntsen for them to allow Gregory Allen to get away with that brutal assault and a free pass to go on raping other women.

To be honest, the case against Holtzclaw looks pretty shaky.

http://www.holtzclawtrial.com/untold-story/

The way these guilters speak its like 18 years is water of a ducks back, no biggie ya know.

I agree... Was surprised to see KZ take this on...

She's been shilling for Holtzclaw on Twitter for some time now actually.

What's a "guilter"? One commonality you share with Amanda Knox's fan club is that neither Avery or Knox's cult seem to be able to provide an adequate definition of one & it's 12 years not 18 as six of those years were spent for crimes he very much did do including preying on a female victim at gunpoint, no matter how many times you spam otherwise. A lie repeated often enough does not become the truth, regardless of what addled Nazis babbled back in the day. Speaks volumes you gotta lie & massage the facts in order to make an innocence case for Cuddly Bear Steve & Innocent Brendan when the truth is easy to defend & indeed invigorating. You have no case here, like Knox's cult of sycophants whose "guilter" lexicon you adopt in true cultist style.

Yup. It doesn't matter what happens to taxpayers, but even question what a cop does and they lose their ****. I guess they get vicarious thrills thinking about abusing innocent people and being treated like heroes for doing it.

It resembles the Kern County case. No forensic evidence a crime was even committed and a conviction based on flawed testimony.

Knox groupies are delighted at the ECHR ruling, while carefully not noticing that Knox demanded 530,000 euros in damages and the court awarded her 18,000 total, of which a third was costs.

http://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng-press?...308618-8238134

**** Amanda Knox and her groupies....

Surprised Knox won the decision.