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12-19-2018 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
Bring it.
Looks like the legal team says the same thing regarding Deputy Andy's complaint:

“We are thrilled that Colborn filed this lawsuit [because] he will have to testify under oath about all of the issues that have swirled around him for years. Everything about the first wrongful conviction will be exhaustively explored as well. From having observed the meticulous, painstaking, uncompromisingly ethical work of Ricciardi and Demos for 2.5 years they have to be amused but not in the least threatened by this frivolous lawsuit. For us it is an early Christmas present.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...ellner-771241/
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12-20-2018 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by proudfootz
Looks like the legal team says the same thing regarding Deputy Andy's complaint:

“We are thrilled that Colborn filed this lawsuit [because] he will have to testify under oath about all of the issues that have swirled around him for years. Everything about the first wrongful conviction will be exhaustively explored as well. From having observed the meticulous, painstaking, uncompromisingly ethical work of Ricciardi and Demos for 2.5 years they have to be amused but not in the least threatened by this frivolous lawsuit. For us it is an early Christmas present.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...ellner-771241/
I meant to post this last night, but forgot lol.

This is gold for us, its like the depositions all over again, maybe worse as it encompasses 2005 too and the lawsuit might not take place in Wisconsin. All good news.

Have you also noticed that the P.R. firm/people have been very quiet since K.Z. called them out, or is it just me overthinking?
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12-20-2018 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
I meant to post this last night, but forgot lol.

This is gold for us, its like the depositions all over again, maybe worse as it encompasses 2005 too and the lawsuit might not take place in Wisconsin. All good news.
I bet Andy's pals are overjoyed he landed them all in another lawsuit.

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Have you also noticed that the P.R. firm/people have been very quiet since K.Z. called them out, or is it just me overthinking?
I wonder what's going to happen to all those trolls when this is finally over.
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12-20-2018 , 06:20 PM
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I bet Andy's pals are overjoyed he landed them all in another lawsuit.
They really should start Gofundme accounts, that's the way to go nowadays the kids tell me.

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I wonder what's going to happen to all those trolls when this is finally over.
I heard russia is hiring.
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12-20-2018 , 06:29 PM
Interesting thread on tick tock Manitowoc about Depty Andy's complaint.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TickTockMan...egard_for_the/

One poster suggests Colburn/Griesbach will drop the suit before any depositions or discovery, it's just a way to get publicity.
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12-20-2018 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by proudfootz
Interesting thread on tick tock Manitowoc about Depty Andy's complaint.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TickTockMan...egard_for_the/

One poster suggests Colburn/Griesbach will drop the suit before any depositions or discovery, it's just a way to get publicity.
Yeah, no doubt..Griesbach said something like he's dropping the hammer on this one, or something, don't quote me thou.

I liked this posters take on it...
https://www.reddit.com/r/TickTockMan...company_would/
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12-20-2018 , 07:32 PM
@ZellnerLaw: Manitowoc County has a "culture of corruption," Kathleen Zellner is "real hero," 'Wrecking Crew' writer says @Newsweek @michellemalkin @lifeafterten @guardian @TheTelegraph__ @johnferak #MakingAMurdererPart2
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12-20-2018 , 08:45 PM
Guys, what is your take in 'an innocent man'? To me, that is a much more intriguing case/s and I would love to see this kind of back and forth on it.
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12-20-2018 , 08:46 PM
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@ZellnerLaw: Manitowoc County has a "culture of corruption," Kathleen Zellner is "real hero," 'Wrecking Crew' writer says @Newsweek @michellemalkin @lifeafterten @guardian @TheTelegraph__ @johnferak #MakingAMurdererPart2
Been watching The Innocent Man recommended above, and it is a nice peek behind the curtain at how law enforcement corruption can protect criminals by securing convictions against innocent people.

What's good to see is how the victim's family is royally pissed off at police and prosecutors who are more interested in padding their resumes with a 'good conviction record' than in justice for victims of crime.
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12-20-2018 , 08:51 PM
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I wonder what's going to happen to all those trolls when this is finally over.
I heard russia is hiring.
Why go to Russians when your local liars are hiring and probably pay better?

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/p...owars-13707574
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12-20-2018 , 08:54 PM
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Guys, what is your take in 'an innocent man'? To me, that is a much more intriguing case/s and I would love to see this kind of back and forth on it.
Let me guess...

CV will inform us DNA is junk science invented by a massive international 'Innocence Fraud' conspiracy to build up an army of master criminals.
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12-21-2018 , 04:54 AM
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They really should start Gofundme accounts, that's the way to go nowadays the kids tell me.



I heard russia is hiring.
Only ones trolling here is murderer advocates, attacking the victim's family. None of you have provided any evidence to back up your claims.
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12-21-2018 , 05:52 AM
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I’ll bet you losers send Avery fan mail.
Every week I send Steven pictures of corpus vile masturbating to videos of prisoners being raped at Abu Ghraib.
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12-21-2018 , 08:33 AM
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Guys, what is your take in 'an innocent man'? To me, that is a much more intriguing case/s and I would love to see this kind of back and forth on it.
Haven't watched it but doesn't it examine wrongful conviction of Ron Williamson? He was exonerated via DNA testing like Avery for the rape. Nobody is saying wrongful convictions or false confessions don't happen as they most certainly do. They didn't happen in the Teresa Halbach case though & none of Avery or Dassey's groupies have been able to provide the slightest valid justification for their bs. I intend to check out the series though, not that I put much stock in things in general anyway compared to primary sources.

The bloke who presents this series keeps saying he was exonerated for example when his conviction was overturned & courts said there was overwhelming evidence for guilt for him in particular.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raphael_Rowe

Media sources can't trump the primary sources.


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12-21-2018 , 09:42 AM
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Why go to Russians when your local liars are hiring and probably pay better?

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/p...owars-13707574
Ahh the good old Daily Scum.... Not as bad as the Sunscum but it trys, lol.

Our rags are now trying to distract the public by saying J.C. called T.M. a stupid lady.. while our country self explodes.
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12-21-2018 , 09:44 AM
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Guys, what is your take in 'an innocent man'? To me, that is a much more intriguing case/s and I would love to see this kind of back and forth on it.
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Been watching The Innocent Man recommended above, and it is a nice peek behind the curtain at how law enforcement corruption can protect criminals by securing convictions against innocent people.

What's good to see is how the victim's family is royally pissed off at police and prosecutors who are more interested in padding their resumes with a 'good conviction record' than in justice for victims of crime.
Been meaning to watch it, but had to do xmas shopping
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12-21-2018 , 09:44 AM
The cases examined in The Innocent Man seem to follow a similar pattern to that in the cases against Steven Avery: witness tampering by investigators, disregard of alibis for chosen targets, law enforcement protecting primary suspect, manipulation of so-called 'confessions', exculpatory information withheld from the defense, and unrepentant prosecutor who's not the least bit sorry for putting innocent people in prison.
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12-21-2018 , 09:47 AM
Planet Lex podcast.....

Making a Murderer: How Brendan Dassey’s Case is Making a Difference Steven Drizin and Laura Nirider talk about false confessions and the legal proceedings covered in the second season of “Making a Murderer.”'

Here's the blurb:

'When cases like Brendan Dassey’s are examined, many see a pressing need to rethink the definition of coercion and the law of voluntariness, especially in cases involving minors. In this episode of Planet Lex, host Jim Speta talks to Northwestern Law professors, Center on Wrongful Convictions of Youth attorneys, and Netflix stars Steven Drizin and Laura Nirider about false confessions and the legal proceedings covered in the second season of “Making a Murderer.” They catch us up on what has happened in the Brendan Dassey case since season one and talk about the further options available to him as he continues to seek release. Steve and Laura also talk about the involvement of Northwestern Law’s clinical students in cases like Brendan’s, as well as their efforts to protect vulnerable juveniles by educating law enforcement on appropriate interrogation practices with children.'

The podcast [33.57]
https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcast...-a-difference/
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12-21-2018 , 09:52 AM
K.Z. takes on a new case in Texas..


Here is why Zellner went to Texas. She has taken on the Sandra Melgar case! Yes!!! This is this season's Truth and Justice case.

Hope you allow the link. It has the info.

https://www.facebook.com/46289690054...4375178730420/
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12-21-2018 , 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by proudfootz
The cases examined in The Innocent Man seem to follow a similar pattern to that in the cases against Steven Avery: witness tampering by investigators, disregard of alibis for chosen targets, law enforcement protecting primary suspect, manipulation of so-called 'confessions', exculpatory information withheld from the defense, and unrepentant prosecutor who's not the least bit sorry for putting innocent people in prison.
This imo is The Major problem is the US Justice system..
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12-21-2018 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
K.Z. takes on a new case in Texas..


Here is why Zellner went to Texas. She has taken on the Sandra Melgar case! Yes!!! This is this season's Truth and Justice case.

Hope you allow the link. It has the info.

https://www.facebook.com/46289690054...4375178730420/
I'm listening to a podcast about it now.

https://www.khou.com/article/news/in.../285-619162340
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12-21-2018 , 10:04 AM
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Been meaning to watch it, but had to do xmas shopping
Don't let it drive you mad!

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12-21-2018 , 12:14 PM
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I'm listening to a podcast about it now.

https://www.khou.com/article/news/in.../285-619162340
Nice, thanks.... More holiday listening

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Don't let it drive you mad!

Back out today ) Forgot a bottle of Whisky & A set of Car mats that was delivered to THE WRONG SHOP!!!! Argggg.
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12-21-2018 , 12:23 PM
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I have an idea. Let’s release all the violent predators who preyed onnand killed innocent women.
I would hope that your advocating for justice in the Epstien case. And putting in as much if not more work to bring these criminals to justice.

Or is it that you only attack the weak & poor of society?
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12-21-2018 , 01:19 PM
Just to return briefly to lies told by police, prosecution, and guilters Barb was okay with selling the van. Transcript of police interview Nov 9, 2005:

QUESTION: Umm, do you remember mentioning that the Saturday before, uh, this all came about, that you had an argument of some sort with Steven about why--hey, why are you even puttin' this thing in Auto Trader? Do you remember about what time that was, or when that was?

BARB: No.

QUESTION: Umm, you had said that it was before he left--

BARB: I didn't have an argument with him, I just told him.

QUESTION: Well what did you ask him, or what did you tell him?

BARB: I asked him why he was putting it in there. 'Cause it's not good anyhow.

QUESTION: What do you think that van was worth?

BARB: I don't know. Couldn't tell you. That's why he--

QUESTION: Did you guys discuss it at all?

BARB: That's why he always did it. He's put in a lot of cars in Auto Trader already.

QUESTION: Did he--did he ask you or how did it go to decide "hey, let's sell this vehicle and put it in the newspaper," or whatever?

BARB: It was no use to me.

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There was no argument, Barb was fine with selling the van other than worried it wouldn't bring much money, and had no intention on keeping it for one of her kids to drive.
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