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12-08-2018 , 03:36 PM
Possible world 1:

They plant the key (result, key is located in averys room)

Possible world 2:

They find the key (result, key is found in averys room)

Finding the key in averys room does nothing to either hypothesis. There has not once been one coherent argument presented how this thing got planted and this is supposed to be the most controversial piece of evidence.

1) how would the police have obtained the key prior to finding it?
2) they searched the room for 1 1/2 days. Cutting it short on day 1 because of weather. They found the key on the second day of searching his room. Why didn't they plant the key on the first day?
3) why didn't they plant the key in a less conspicuous spot? IE: Maybe inside a desk, inside a folder in his shelf, in the closet, in his jacket pocket etc...
4) Why would they plant her key? They already had a mountain of evidence against this guy. Why even plant the key? Seems like a pretty risky thing to do to risk life in prison for a guy that is as good as convicted.
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12-08-2018 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
Possible world 1:

They plant the key (result, key is located in averys room)

Possible world 2:

They find the key (result, key is found in averys room)

Finding the key in averys room does nothing to either hypothesis. There has not once been one coherent argument presented how this thing got planted and this is supposed to be the most controversial piece of evidence.

1) how would the police have obtained the key prior to finding it?
2) they searched the room for 1 1/2 days. Cutting it short on day 1 because of weather. They found the key on the second day of searching his room. Why didn't they plant the key on the first day?
3) why didn't they plant the key in a less conspicuous spot? IE: Maybe inside a desk, inside a folder in his shelf, in the closet, in his jacket pocket etc...
4) Why would they plant her key? They already had a mountain of evidence against this guy. Why even plant the key? Seems like a pretty risky thing to do to risk life in prison for a guy that is as good as convicted.
BBM

You told the truth by mistake.

Indeed the place the key was allegedly 'found' was a conspicuous spot, where a procession of cops tramping in and out of the room would have to practically step over it every time they entered or left.

There is no coherent innocent explanation for how the key got there.

The only rational conclusion is that it was planted.
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12-08-2018 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by krolik
You really are so stupid you probably should just kill yourself. Really. I’m being serious. If the key was on a bookshelf, not on the floor, how would cops be “tramping” around step over it? You’re so stupid you don’t even know that they was discovered when a detective pulled the bookcase away from the wall dislodging the poorly hidden key. It was only then the key was in the floor you stupid ass. I’d love to punch you in the face then creampie your mother.
LOL!

Keep up the POE - it really exposes the 'mind' set of the typical guilter.

And here I thought you and corpus snowballing each other would have mellowed you a little.
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12-15-2018 , 06:57 PM
Just waiting in the next filing on December 20.
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12-16-2018 , 05:33 PM
In other news Avery's murderer groupie freaks continue to attack a completely innocent murder victim's family while engaging in their usual conspiralunacy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TickTockMan...been_fun_guys/

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I appreciate and respect you all, however I'm at a point where I can no longer discuss and theorize the facts of this case under the pretense that TH was murdered.

I'm all but convinced that she was either dead before she went missing, or was never dead at all. The timing of her "murder" and the families unusual behavior are too much for me.

Since this opinion isn't very well accepted around these parts, I'll show myself out.
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[–]nutlow182[S] 18 points 3 days ago
I would not be surprised if she was alive and/or a DOJ agent... her being found by LE is sort of consistent with the "she was murdered" theory that I don't buy. If she was dead before, I feel like her family is in on the whole scheme to use her to frame Avery. Nothing else explains their bizarre behavior.
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[–]learningtoloveit1 12 points 3 days ago
I think Mike tampered with evidence under the instruction of LE. I think so did the boyfriend and the roommate. As such their lips are sealed.
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[–]low_selfie_steam 16 points 3 days ago
For me it's nothing to do with crying or not crying, it's other things. I'm addicted to true crime shows, and I have seen hundreds of families being interviewed when their loved one is missing, presumed dead. The families NEVER presume dead. They always, always speak about the loved one in present tense and they always speak of being hopeful that she will be found alive. When MH spoke of TH in past tense and appeared to assume she was dead while she was still missing, this stood out for me in a huge way. Also, his reaction to the Brendan Dassey confession. He was confident enough to say this confession proves who did it and yet he admitted he had not watched the confession and had no intention to. I can't imagine any family member not wanting to watch the confession of her killer, and ESPECIALLY having no interest in watching it after all the controversy and half the world believes it to be a false confession. I can't imagine the family having no interest in the question of whether Steven Avery and Brendan Dassey were framed and coerced and falsely conficted with possible jury tampering. There are serious credible questions about law enforcement and prosecution misdeeds in this case, it's very bizarre if the family has absolutely zero interest in it either way.
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[–]kookaburrakook 5 points 3 days ago
It isn't about not crying enough, that I could understand, it is about fake crying. Why would you need to do that? No red puffy eyes, no snotty red nose, nothing.
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goodnewsweek 6 points 3 days ago
...and then there is the news report from the H residence, in the kitchen (?), very nice clean tidy kitchen, having a nice chat to the nice TV people about some photos, not many, and TiH closes the album and bends the page and the photos. That lone album only seems to use two pages and the rest are blank. And what is with the talk about doing as much as they can to find her, by sitting in the kitchen reminiscing??? And how fresh and clean shaven do the guys look, why aren't they out there tearing down forests to find her and getting no sleep in the process, as well as the mum???
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[–]xXGEOMANXx 3 points 2 days ago
Its not inly that they did not cry enough. I find pretty awkward that her mother cried in two interviews shown in MAM but couldn’t shed a tear. Just like those fake family court tv programs. Surely the guilters would say it was purposely edited to look like that. SMH!
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[–]hnfhelper 29 points 3 days ago
the odds of an exonerated man randomly being tangled up in this whole mess is ZERO. The key players are the people that had HUGE motives, not some red necks living in a trailer that randomly wanted a thrill kill. There is ZERO evidence of MURDER and 100% evidence towards complete ****ery. The halbachs have skeletons in their closets!
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[–]s_wardy_s 21 points 3 days ago
You're not on a solo voyage mate... I can not believe the family one bit, and if you need convincing of the poor acting watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tq0...PCm3Q&index=20



This is also a super collection of videos questioning the death of TH and CB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfyB...NPCm3Q&index=5



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[–]aurelius1980 7 points 3 days ago
Great videos, definitely some shady stuff happening

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[–]Lonely_Crouton 6 points 3 days ago
great stuff

yeah i think we all could plainly see the family and ryan reactions being full of sh**

and i always thought steven seemed totally truthful
But it's all about righting a miscarriage of justice with these people of course & not because some of Avery's groupies are hybristophiliac scum who relive the killer's crime by attacking the victim's family. These are the type of low life loons murderers like Steven Avery attract.

Amanda Knox's groupies did the exact same thing on the Kercher family



Avery's groupies are no different when it comes to attacking the victims as the attacks on reddit highlight all too clearly. It's why they're accurately regarded as murderer groupies plain & simple
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12-16-2018 , 06:19 PM
I've said it before & i'll say it again.... If you want to attack the Halbach family your a ****ing idiot.
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12-16-2018 , 06:25 PM
That's the main reason I rarely post on reddit MaM or ticktockmantiowoc because of the attacks on the family.

The origional sub was great & even Ticktock sub was good...Now you just got to shut out the crazys & read the responsible posts by the older members. But that is hard when new to the sub.
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12-16-2018 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
I've said it before & i'll say it again.... If you want to attack the Halbach family your a ****ing idiot.
Pity not everyone follows your philosophy. Nice & appreciated to see some of you have a sense of decency though
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12-16-2018 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
Pity not everyone follows your philosophy. Nice & appreciated to see some of you have a sense of decency though
Only 1 poster (not a regular) questioned MH attitude itt, until I challenged his posts. All the regular posters have respected the family.
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12-17-2018 , 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
Only 1 poster (not a regular) questioned MH attitude itt, until I challenged his posts. All the regular posters have respected the family.
Teresa's brother has been attacked itt & has been accused of murdering his sister in cahoots with LE.
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12-17-2018 , 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
That's the main reason I rarely post on reddit MaM or ticktockmantiowoc because of the attacks on the family.

The origional sub was great & even Ticktock sub was good...Now you just got to shut out the crazys & read the responsible posts by the older members. But that is hard when new to the sub.
Even here you have to ignore the rantings of loons like corpus and krolik who attack the Avery family non-stop. So the crocodile tears about the Halbachs don't mean anything.

TTM does have some fine contributors, which is where this graphic comes from - showing that the dogs where far more interested in the quarry than in the salvage yard, but since that didn't fit the prosecution narrative it was left out.

https://i.imgur.com/oBpZH3V.gifv

Which demonstrates Ken 'The Creep' Kratz's bitching and moaning about things the documentary allegedly 'left out' is 100% horse****.
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12-17-2018 , 07:30 AM
Decided to view your post & I haven't attacked any of Avery's family & this is one of the many reasons tiresome & rampantly dishonest trolls like you end up on lots of ig lists you're simply incapable of honest debate. If you had any decency in you at all you'd unequivocally condemn such attacks, just like Smacc did. But you won't cuz you're a murderer groupie scumbag. Anyway back to ignoring you now. You low life.
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12-17-2018 , 07:43 AM
^^^

Typical fanaticism from the corpse violator, who spends hundreds of hours viewing torture porn and getting off on images of women being abused, terrorized, and murdered.

When a person like that calls me a low life because I support efforts to keep innocent people out of prison it speaks volumes about the guilter mindset.

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12-17-2018 , 07:53 AM
Today Zellner is scheduled to present more information for people who are actually interested in the progress in the case.

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12-17-2018 , 08:47 AM
^^ I haven't bothered viewing this worm's posts but am willing to bet money he hasn't given any evidence to support his lie that I've attacked Avery's family & am further willing to bet he hasn't condemned the disgusting attacks on the Halbach family... Am I right or wrong?
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12-17-2018 , 08:55 AM
The Innocent Man showcases more small town LE shenanigans. It's a must watch.

Carry on.....
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12-17-2018 , 08:57 AM
LOL @ corpus demanding proof of something when he lies repeatedly about alleged 'murder groupies' and can't show anything that even hints at my 'attacking' the Halbach family.

What a feckless ****.
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12-17-2018 , 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by RichGangi
The Innocent Man showcases more small town LE shenanigans. It's a must watch.

Carry on.....
Thanks for the link!
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12-17-2018 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by RichGangi
The Innocent Man showcases more small town LE shenanigans. It's a must watch.

Carry on.....
Thanks....
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12-17-2018 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by krolik
Loon? Do you think childish name-calling makes you look cool in front of your virtual friends? The Avery family brings attacks upon themselves with their ridiculous conspiracy theories.
Just making a point about you and your alter ego corpus attacking the family highlighting corpus's hypocrisy about families being sacrosanct.

LE brings suspicion about framing on themselves by engaging in conspiracies to frame innocent Americans.
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12-17-2018 , 12:17 PM
After viewing loudtrollz dribbling posts I see I was right on both counts, re him unable to cite any instances of my attacking Avery's family, nor has he condemned the reddit attacks on the Halbachs. Trolls gonna troll & murderer groupie filth gonna group.
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12-17-2018 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by krolik
Corpus is a good, honorable man. I’d donate a kidney or part of my liver to him anytime.
...Stop making me start to like you in spite of myself.
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12-17-2018 , 12:24 PM
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Corpus is a good, honorable man. I’d donate a kidney or part of my liver to him anytime.
Corpus will have to go to the farmer's market to pick up some veg to go along with that...



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Originally Posted by corpus vile
After viewing loudtrollz dribbling posts I see I was right on both counts, re him unable to cite any instances of my attacking Avery's family, nor has he condemned the reddit attacks on the Halbachs. Trolls gonna troll & murderer groupie filth gonna group.
The corpse violator routinely attacks anyone who thinks Steven and Brendan might be innocent, which includes Avery's family.

To him they are 'filth'.
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12-17-2018 , 02:15 PM
I suppose calling People mamma & pappa bear. Don't count CV? Huh!!
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