I don't think avery should be convicted of raping his niece and his friends wife but I think its most likely he did rape his niece and friends wife. Its pretty simple really. We can conclude things are most likely without the evidence being strong enough to convict someone. This is all about epistemology. I highly doubt that anyone requires reasonable doubt to draw all of their conclusions about reality.

I'm just pointing out corpus's hypocrisy about courts - they're infallible when they agree with his prejudices and completely unreliable when they don't.

Another Lazy ass Troll....

That probably explains why he imagines Steven and Brendan to be criminal masterminds on the level of Dexter Morgan: binding, raping, torturing, slashing, stabbing, beating, shooting eleven times (!), choking, dismembering a young woman and not leaving a trace of blood, hair, fiber, DNA in any of the several locations where all this is alleged to have occurred all the while receiving unannounced visitors and fielding random phone calls.

Part 2: https://soundcloud.com/double-loop-p...erer-s2-part-2

"Glenn Langenburg and Eric Ray spend this episode talking about even more of the forensic evidence from the second season of Making a Murderer. They start with a review of the DNA evidence from the hood latch and the bullet fragment. Can there be too much DNA? They also discuss the trace analysis of the bullet fragment, the lack of fingerprints, the mysteries of brain fingerprinting, and even more of the evidence in the Steven Avery case."

Thanks for the link!

Penny Beerntsen didn't say quite what you're implying she said.

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2...rer-speaks-out

Note particularly what she says at the end:-

Do more research... That was her 2nd response.

In the 1st letter she has a lot more to say.... To SA civil lawyers.

Not sure why I am posting here since this is the worst thread in the history of 2+2 but I just finished the second (new) installment. This stuff is just absolutely fascinating to watch.

After the first part I was pretty much 50/50 on his guilt innocence. But now after the new episodes I would be in the 95%+ innocent camp.

Please go back to trolling and insulting each other! I'll be back after the next set of episodes if there are any.

"I was partly responsible for identifying the wrong man, and no one can give Steve back those lost years. Not a day goes by when I don’t think about the woman Gregory Allen raped in 1995 or wonder how many other women’s lives were drastically altered in those years when he was walking free." - Penny Beerntsen


This is what comes from people who happen to be employed in law enforcement pursuing their personal grudges instead of justice.

Hi...Thanks for posting.

Glad you enjoyed the 2 series, there are indeed addictive.... Goto TickTockMantiwoc On reddit for better updates. And not the SA is guilty thread in there. Enjoy.

And yup, its impossible to have even a semi-decent thread when people are posting in bad faith.....

Yeah.

close to 50/50 after MaM1 and a bunch of reading, 90%+ after Kakatch-story

Here's what you said:
The implication clearly being that people were still accusing him of raping PB despite his exoneration, hence your mentioning his exoneration. You also call Kratz a rapist despite no conviction for it- again you're a dishonest hypocritical troll who's fooling nobody. Feel free to continue to endlessly spam & rehash what was already thoroughly debunked like you've been doing for several pages now. Your rapist murderers are still going nowhere & will still serve out their sentences despite your waffle & Zellner's theatrics & that's the bottom line. Remember that.

So you can't provide evidence to back up your utter sh**e despite the truth being easy to defend, gotcha. Like all you murderer groupies contantly unable to back anything up.

Cite verbatim where I said courts are infallible. I never once stated that. Again with the dishonest trolling from you. In better news though your rapist murderers do well in the prison talent competition.




Yes. He's certainly showing me...

Still waiting for you to provide evidence for your false claims. Still getting zilch from you like all murderer advocates.

Cite verbatim where it's established as fact by the courts that both Dassey & Avery are clinically ******ed & explain how your inconsistency of falsely claiming Dassey as ******ed as a form of advocacy while stating that lower IQ Avery is exactly where he belongs is justified, as you've been asked now oh a bunch of times now. You have the attention span of a gnat. You also claimed you wouldn't engage with me again, yet here you are...engaging with me again. Inconsistency & false claims that's all we've had from you in your limited posting history so far. Tsk tsk.

You're a troll like Loudfootz.
Anyway as I said you groupies/advocates can continue to bleat to your hearts' content, won't change a thing for the scum your advocate for. I know you won't be able to cite verbatim via the court sources anything to back up your claims re ******ation & implied coercion re Dassey as they're false claims. Like every other advocacy claim in this tread.

Avery and his lawyers settled for just $400,000. And it's on Avery, and no one else except Dassey, that the pair of them murdered Teresa Halbach, a crime for which they will pay for the rest of their lives.

The dubious pair who produce Making a Murderer are chancers and grifters of the usual kind and TV isn't reality.

You have thereby stated that Avery and Dassey are both ******ed. You have supplied no evidence. As far as I am aware, neither of them is ******ed in the legal sense, such that they would be unfit to stand trial or be held accountable for their actions. They are simply at the lower end of normal.

This does not make you look good.

The producers went to mantiowoc to Film & Documentary on the america Justice system, can you explain to posters how there fraud was committed?
After all it was the prosecution who didn't want to be involved in it, I wonder why?

Go back to your Ad hominem attacks in the brexit thread. Your input hear is zero to zilch.

krolik, it's evident from your last post that you haven't even watched MaM2, and aren't up to date on what was covered in the documentary. Why go through the trouble of posting your opinions in this thread? Looking forward to the MaM3 reveal that krolik is Ken Kratz

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/11/...n-exposed/amp/

Cite verbatim where it's established fact by any court anywhere that anyone in this thread is a troll.

Just crawl back under your rock you clueless twit.

Thanks for the link.

It should come as no surprise that incompetent trolls come out in support of this corruption.

No you stated Dassey was practically ******ed before changing this to fully ******ed & then said both he & Avery were ******ed.
When asked to provide evidence of this you simply blustered &are now engaging in word games. Typical murderer groupie troll & your inability to back up your tiresome bollocks is duly noted with a complete lack of surprise. Not one of you capable of backing up your falsehoods itt as you have no case here.