^^

Must be another song corpus vile dances to...

but was it actually disconnected, or did Degnitz do it when he used "the memo of disconnecting batteries" to open it before they had a warrant?


around 15:20 "that would give us the warrant on it", which for some reason is not transcripted



was she on her back or stomach? I am not as bright as BD, so I get confused whose POV-left they want

It's true that we have no unimpeachable and unmistakable evidence who might have disconnected the battery or when it was done.

All we do have is direct evidence of the 'confession coaches' leading Brendan to 'admit' Steven went under the hood:

FASSBENDER: OK. Did he, did he, did he go and look at the engine, did he raise the hood at all or anything like that? To do something to that car?

BRENDAN: Yeah

Then Presto! The latch the cops steered Brendan to mention turns out to have Steven's DNA on it in amounts a couple of orders of magnitude greater than expected from someone merely touching it.

You're correct - whichever of two sides Brendan guessed the police could claim the guess was correct and therefore indisputable and unambiguous 'evidence' Brendan must have been a witness.

nevermind, think they're talking about SA's grand am, my bad

What are you talking about. They pressed BD REALLY hard "What did he do to her head--------Cut her hair of". ".....punched her in the face...." and more. He is just GUESSING.

Really? You think one problem/solution always only have ONE factor? Of course the age also matters because with age usually experience will come, like for an example dealing with authoritarian people which might be scary to younger people who may or may not been exposed to that before.

@Corpus. From someone ITT I think you have on ignore, probably because he crushes every argument you have;

"Fassbender "It's OK, it's a big step..... a step toward feeling better about yourself, to recovery, to not crying at night because of this stuff happenin'........... what you saw. I PROMISE you I'll not let you hang out there alone, but we've gotta have the truth. The truth is gonna be terrible........ your mom..........."

Wiegert " We're not gonna run back and tell your grandma and grandpa what you told us or anything like that. OK."


They sure didnt let BD "hang out there alone" right?

This is all explained in Duffin's habeas decision which corpus vile has put on 'ignore'.

While he have hours of material from the coaching/coercion sessions with Brendan, it seems corpus vile hasn't provided us with any evidence Steven was treated in the same fashion.

Please read what I wrote. Explicit inarguable unequivocal examples of false leniency promises. Do you have any?

No this is just yet more inconsistency from advocates. Otoh it's his "low IQ", now it's his age. Which is it? Are all teenagers coerced by virtue of their age & experience? Is it therefore impossible to coerce an experienced adult? Is anyone with a low IQ who confesses to a crime automatically coerced due to it?

Keep 'em coming. It hasn't made one good argument itt, never mind crushed mine or anyone else's, it's one of the many reasons I have it on ignore.

Again please read what i wrote. If this is such an explicit, inarguable unequivocal example of promising false leniency then what are they promising him leniency on? How does this equate to no prison time? Especially when they say the truth will be terrible?
To you this is actually inarguable?
I think I'll answer you with a quote from loony Loudz
^^ from the who shot JFK thread. Loudz has so far very much unwittingly convinced some posters who were suspicious of JFK's assassination, that it was in fact Oswald acting alone, due to its consistently crappy arguments over there.

Along with some quotes from others who've had to endure its nuttiness
Kinda like itt eh?



So no Loudz hasn't crushed any arguments and is actually a laughing stock everywhere except to the kool aid guzzlers itt who believe a massive conspiracy involving multiple LE agencies combined with contamination combined with coercion combined with ineffective counsel combined with dodgy juries has a higher probative value to explain the evidence, than both scumbags being GAF.

?? How does this equate to an actual fuhreelz false promise of leniency? Rather than just stuff you personally dislike?

Nope. They got this scummy pig uncle too bang to rights so he certainly didn't "Hang out there alone" & at least he's got a possible shot of parole... in 2048. Unlike his scumbag uncle who's gonna die in prison even if he lives to be 120
They didn't give him any false promises of leniency either & your cited examples in no way qualify.

Do the cops tell him from the start that they can't make any promises? Yes they do.
Do they tell Dassey at any point "Tell us what we wanna hear, confess to Teresa's murder & you'll be home in time for tea with no prison time at all whatsoever"?
No they don't.

Or to they tell him they need the truth even if it makes him look bad and even if it's terrible?
Yes. They do.

Also meant to add re your "guessing" comment in another post- stick to the established facts please Dassey's confession hasn't been decreed as false but coerced. Stop conflating your opinion with the established facts, we're discussing whether or not he was coerced or given false leniency promises not whether his confession is true/false. As was covered anyway itt with no examples given, just as you haven't given any.

You don't know what coercion means sorry, or a false promise of leniency. Not even Duffin or the majority could give any explicit inarguable examples hence their totality bs.
Do you think they'll be upheld or overturned?

All the strawmen.

Just an embarrassing display by CV239 this past week.

Top 10 worst-poster in this site's history, easy.

Inorite? Hence all your proactive responses to me cuz I'm just so insufferable? Maybe if I raise various bars for special little guys & deem innuendo, speculation & accusation okay for others including the murder victim's friend, I'll eventually rise to a "clear thinker". (which in no way sounds like some weird creepy Scientology thing btw) I can dream...

And yet again as has been patiently & helpfully explained to your pompous short attention span ass about a bazillion times now, neither I or anyone else interested in honest debate are interested in your worthless opinion, be it on me or the Teresa Halbach case as anything you burble is based on a tv show.

*cue more windabaggery from Lionel Hutz yawn*

Definitely a poor poster - corpus vile feels like he has to troll for quotes about me from another thread?

Just goes to show he can't address the arguments in this thread.

^^

^^^

Pretty ironic that corpus vile accuses others of stalking when he searches the site for quotes from threads he doesn't participate in to try and find dirt on posters he's put on 'ignore'.

ETA - I wonder if corpus vile is stalking this judge, too?

https://imgur.com/gallery/vjUGl

In other news Yet more examples of MAM's fraudulent narrative via its deceptive editing

Kathleen Zellner
http://www.newsweek.com/2016/04/08/k...ry-441470.html

https://imgur.com/a/80e1J
#MarathonNotSprint

Since the so-called 'confession' cobbled together by cops has been found to be coerced, maybe we should look at voluntary statements from Brendan made without coaching or coercion.

Like this:

April 16, 2006 - Self Interview (Describing 10/31)

On Easter 2006, Brendan was given a self interview form created by Michael O'Kelly before undergoing the polygraph exam (which Brendan had twice requested).

QUESTION: This person received sexual and fatal injuries. How would you explain this? Please write in detail your ideas that would account for this. Start from the beginning and continue.

Brendan's original written statement to O'Kelly in response to this question, as relating to the day of October 31st, is below:

The story is that me and Blaine "my Brother" came home from school at 3:45 p.m. about and walked down our drive way and went into the house and blaine went to get the phone and called his friend Jason to see if he was going trick or treating and then at five-thirty p.m. went up the road to go with Jason and picked him up.

My mom came home when blaine was walking up the drive way. Blaine was half way to the mail box to get picked up when mom came home. Then mom left home at 6:00 p.m. to go shoping with scott. I was in my room playing playstation 2 and got a call from blaines boss and I told him that he was gone trick or treating with a friend. He told me to tell blaine to call his boss when he got back home at 11:30 p.m.

I then went back to my game and played it for an hour or so and got a phone call from steven at home that if I wanted to come over to the bombfire and help him with burning tires and branches and wood, van seat, cabinet, and we used the golf cart to carry the stuff over to the fire.

Then mom and scott came home from shopping at 8:30 p.m. and then she called steven on his cell phone and told him I was to be home at 9:30 to ten and she ask him if I had a sweater on because it was cold that day. I went home at 9:30 and watched T.V. for an hour or so and mom told me it was bedtime so I did so and went to bed and woke up at 7:00 a.m. for school, that is the true story.

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LMAO, sounds like Zellner tried to sprint a marathon. Maybe after 26.2 motions she'll reach the conclusion that Steven is guilty.

Anyone who's been paying attention knows it takes years for wrongful convictions to be overturned.

In 2009, high-profile Chicago attorney Kathleen Zellner took over Ferguson's case working pro bono.[16] In 2012, both Erickson and Trump recanted their trial testimony in statements obtained by Zellner and her investigator. In the subsequent habeas corpus hearing, both Erickson and Trump admitted that they lied at Ferguson's trial...[17]

Ferguson's conviction was vacated in November 2013 on the basis that the prosecution withheld evidence from the defense team. Following the reversal, the Attorney General of Missouri announced he does not plan to refile charges against Ferguson.[21] The case remains unsolved, and police are considering reopening the case.[22]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_W._Ferguson

Meanwhile, with the coerced statements from Brendan set aside, here is another 'confession' freely made by Brendan:



I went to school on that day and got home at 3:45 and went to my mom's house and went in the house to play playstation until 5:00 p.m. till my mom came home then i called my freind at 5:30 p.m.

I watched T.V. till 6:00 and got a phone call at that time from blaine's boss. I told him that blaine went trick or treating with his friend. Then at 7:00 p.m. I got a phone call at 7:00 p.m. from steven and asked me to come over to the bombfire that night.

Then I helped him pick up the yard and picked up a vanseat, wood, a cabinet, and some tires. Then we threw them on the fire and we waited for the fire to go down and then go[t] a phone call at 9:00-9:30 and it was my mom and told steven that i was to be home at 10:00 p.m. and I was home at that time. Then I talked to my mom and then went to bed.

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Gotta love also how she now respects the court, after whinging incessantly about the courts & falsely claiming the judge had no jurisdiction.

I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but people who commit crimes occasionally lie to cover up their involvement.