Easy $10,000.00 for someone who thinks they can answer these questions and prove Steven and Brendan guilty of murder in Halbach case.

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The Steven Avery Proof of Guilt Challenge

The Proof of Guilt Challenge: We are so convinced that you will fail at
answering the following 100 questions that we will offer an award of $10,000 to
anyone who fully answers all 100 questions based upon credible evidence that
establishes Mr. Avery’s guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Over the last 19 months, we have heard and read numerous claims that
Steven Avery is guilty of the murder of Teresa Halbach. Without exception, the
authors of these claims simply do not know the facts of the case nor do they
address the most blatant discrepancies in the State’s case against Mr. Avery. The
Proof of Guilt Challenge is specifically designed to elicit from these commentators
credible evidentiary support for their opinion that Mr. Avery is guilty beyond a
reasonable doubt.

Rules: Anyone (including journalists, legal commentators, students, or the
public) is eligible. All 100 questions must be fully answered referencing
transcripts, evidence, and experiments which establish Mr. Avery’s guilt beyond a
reasonable doubt. All submissions must identify the participant’s name, address,
and driver’s license number. No submissions containing ad hominem attacks,
vulgar language, or conclusions with no supporting evidence will be considered.
We reserve the right to make the final determinations as to whether anyone has
successfully answered all 100 questions and is entitled to the $10,000 reward.

https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...tions+7-27.pdf

pretty good series - the defense lawyers were very good, crazy that the jury had 7 not guilty votes initially and ended up with 0 as the result.

what was weird in this case was how the prosecution used the Brandon Dassey confession to taint the jury months before the trial - aren't juries supposed to be brought in from outside when the local population is so tainted? That coupled with the Manotowoc law enforcement having such a large role made this case snap appealable imo.

It would probably be difficult to find anyone on the state of Wisconsin who hadn't heard the lurid tale publicized by Calumet County District Attorney Ken Kratz and Calumet County Sheriff Jerry Pagel on television, over the radio, and in the newspapers.

This is the same Sheriff Pagel who visited the Avery jury during deliberations.

https://www.convolutedbrian.com/aver...al-denied.html

true, but I think the pre-bias against the Avery family would not have existed say 100-200 miles away

Steven's new lawyer is disingenuously accusing the defense lawyers of doing a horrible job.


This is just a rumor; other jurors have denied this happened.


The defense lawyers requested the jury be from Manitowoc, as they were also airing their side (that Steven had been framed, that someone tampered with a blood vial, etc.) in the news. Any potential jurors seen to be "tainted" were weeded out during voir dire. Most jurors did not even see the infamous press conference about the confession.


All appeals have been rejected and rightly so.

Mostly Grunching.

Is PoorSkillz the AK thread's 239 ?

Yes but SA was somewhat of a local hero so the defense wanted the trial to stay in manitwoc and of course the state agreed.

Not sure if it was posted itt but I saw some archived forum on a local news station that kind of showed the progression of peoples thoughts locally.

It seemed that a very large number of people thought he was framed up until the trial, so keeping the case locally was probably SA best move as anyone outside of the general area wouldn't have been so quick to think he was framed. Without seeing a 10 hr piece of propaganda that is.

Yep. There are four or five raging guilters that have failed to master even basic logic that basically flood the thread with ****ty posts and stifling any real discussion.

Kathleen Zellner has lost her mind!

http://www.crimeonline.com/2017/07/3...nge-exclusive/

It appears a hearing is scheduled for BD en banc case. Oral arguments will be presented on the 26th of sept.

Should be interesting! It's very rare for a case to have an en banc rehearing, but not surprised it happened with this case - as this article states, "an en banc rehearing is generally granted because the issues at stake reach far beyond that particular case" which is certainly true here. As I've said before wrt Brendan's case, I'll respect whatever decision the court makes.

A link to the decision:

http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-co...-Rehearing.pdf

Will they ultimately decide if hes released at this hearing? Anyone know? Also, I wonder if this will be televised somewhere. The case is certainly big enough.

With any luck the oral arguments will be recorded like they were last time.

Was the SA $36 million civil suit dropped for legal reasons or just that a jury was not going to award a person anything who is on trial for murder? Legally, the Manitowoc county was just as negligent for the 1985 conviction regardless of subsequent actions of SA I would think.

Steven had to settle quick due to sudden need for money to pay lawyers.

Steven had to give up the possibility of a potential 8 figure award for the sure thing of a few hundred thousand. Otherwise he'd have a public defender like Len Kachinsky.

Avery reached a settlement with the county's insurers for $400,000, with county officials acknowledging no wrongdoing in the deal, in February 2006.

Avery murdering someone and needing money for legal fees obviously hurt his negotiating position - supposedly an earlier settlement offer was for $1million.

$36million was always a pipe-dream.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MakingaMurd..._on_manitowoc/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...suit/78437030/

I didn't realize the $400K was a final settlement of his case.

I wonder what the legal precedent for settlement values are for civil suits from people wrongly convicted in the DNA era. 18 years in prison plus blatant negligence by law enforcement would have been pretty pricey is my guess.

"Even if Mr. Avery was never charged with another crime and received the $400,000 from the legislature, I still think that the civil lawsuit was going to settle. I'm not an expert in civil settlements for wrongful convictions, but they seem to be in the range of $1 million to $6 million, even for egregious episodes (see, e.g., http://peopleslawoffice.com/issues-a...ul-conviction/) The County could have exhausted its policies and then chipped in the remaining about from its treasury, and I doubt that would have come close to bankrupting the County. I just don't think the potential financial exposure to the County was enough to motivate the officers to frame Mr. Avery."

https://www.reddit.com/r/MakingaMurd...torney_on_the/




"What I can tell you, though, is that if they thought, in earnest, that they were getting $36 million, they would have made sure Mr. Avery had an attorney. The key point here is, they NEVER thought Mr. Avery was getting $36 million. Ever. I did a quick Google search and you can find law firms that advertise up to $6 million jury awards for wrongful conviction. I didn't see anything higher than that, and those are remarkable circumstances (much higher loss of past wages, etc.). I believe I related this in the post, but Mr. Avery's best case scenario was 2 million, imo, and that's IF a jury bought into his story of corruption. I have attorney/client protected information that leads me to believe there is NO WAY a jury would have believed him. (Again, everything rested on that call Mr. Colburn fielded in 1995, but the plaintiff had no expert to say Coburn mishandled that call)."

https://www.reddit.com/r/MakingaMurd...?context=10000

Ya, I never understood how supporters of avery thought the 36 million figure was realistic. There are people who have been literally beaten into confessions then convicted who have gotten much less than that.

You can't even confidently point to any corruption in the 85 case, at best you can argue the police were negligant.

The reason people use the $36 million dollar figure is because that was the figure named in the lawsuit. It wasn't a $2.00 lawsuit. It wasn't a $2 million lawsuit.

No need for you or anyone else to pick a random number out of the air.

Sadly, we'll never know what the investigation related to the $36 million lawsuit would have uncovered, since Steven was framed for murder before the case could complete its taking of depositions and the collection of evidence was halted.

I can and do argue confidently that more than mere 'negligence' was involved, just based on the incomplete set of facts Steven was able to secure before the whole thing was shut down.

When a victim describes her attacker to police and a sketch almost, if not identical to a mug shot of a completely different person is produced, then yea I'd say maybe that's a bit more than just mere negligence in 85


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Lol what? We can't look at previous examples of wrongful conviction pay outs to determine approximately what SA would have gotten? Instead we should look at the amount he was asking for? Thats ridiculous, you're being ridiculous.

The whole thing wasn't "shut down" he was convicted of murder. Wake up! And there is no evidence that anyone was framing him. There is only conjecture. The mug shot you guys say was "copied" looks just as much like greg allen as it does SA mug shot.

Not ridiculous at all - being factual.

The suit was seeking $36 million. There is no sane reason to call it anything other than a $36 million suit.

You are factually wrong here - the $36 million lawsuit pretty much came to a halt when Steven was accused. The conviction wasn't until months later.

Since it seems you have an adversarial relationship with commonly known facts in the real world, perhaps you should take your own advice?

That is your claim. Like your other assertions any intelligent person will dispute it.



Which one looks more like this?



Here's a hint: