You are correct, of course they interviewed him as a potential witness since he lived so close. I meant to say they never considered him a suspect until Kayla Avery started talking unsolicited about what BD told her. They were not out to pin anything on BD, his involvement pretty much fell into their lap, because Dassey was so messed up by guilt he had to say something to Kayla.

Brendan cried because his girlfriend broke up with him. No big deal, unless you want to suppose it's more likely a high school kid is a rapist and murderer.

In contrast with the coerced statements coming from the police interrogations, no one had to threaten, cajole, or feed Brendan any information to get the truth about crying over getting dumped by a girl.

Kayla admitted under oath the story she told was a pack of lies.

Even if the methods used to obtain this "confession" were somehow passable as legal (which they were not), the confession itself is a sh*tshow. How do you not see this? It's incredible how obtuse you have to be to watch / read any or all parts of this confession and come away thinking he had anything to do with this. The confession is blatantly coerced and obviously false. In fact, its downright silly.

Do you think the transgressions that Len Kachinsky and his bigot investigator committed against BD should be tolerable? Do you think he should be held accountable for any injustices, coercion, lies he perpetuated during his involvement?

I do.

The Federal Judge who reviewed the case agrees with you.

The coerced confession was an extreme malfunction.

Read 'em and weep.

This is apparently false, as already on November 7th they are trying to pin something on Brendan - calling him a liar and suggesting he tell them something they want to hear:

https://youtu.be/NvOBaAI7UlU

Halbach family to have input in B.D's fate. Video by A.G Brad Schimel.


http://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/...ing-a-murderer

Yep when they interviewed him on the 6th he seemed nervous and evasive and they suspected he might be hiding something, and that he may have seen something. He wasn't a suspect in the murder until Kayla spilled the beans to her counselor.

Well there you go. Case closed I guess. No one has ever lied on the witness stand to protect a family member.

What do you think is more probable? That she created a bizarre story that implicated her cousin for absolutely no reason, and repeated that story to multiple people on multiple occasions? Or that she changed her story to try and protect him at his trial?

The fact remains police were already trying to pin something on Brendan and making promises that if he told them what they wanted to hear he had nothing to fear.

There's no evidence Kayla lied on the stand.

What you might imagine happened in other cases is irrelevant.

Given the fact that Brendan's so-called 'confession' was fed to him by investigators and coerced with promises and threats, I'd say it's more likely she was telling the truth while under oath at the trial.

latter

How many times are you going to repeat your argument?

Agree to disagree. The State will make the case, perhaps successfully, that the Federal system overstepped its role in ruling the confession was improper. This is a state case and that is why Obama cannot, theoretically, pardon either suspect.

I don't know, if the State does appeal, if the appeal will be heard by a State or Federal judicial body. Or when the ruling has to occur. I think it can take years if the State takes an aggressive stance.

You think BD is guilty. Very valid opinion. You should be concerned, regardless of your belief that he is guilty, that the narrative presented in trial is not matched by any physical evidence.

It is ok for the state to say we have no real idea how the crime was committed and there is no murder weapon. But they went on tv with the stupid narrative and there was no turning back. The investigation into how the crime was committed or if there were other suspects immediately stopped. They presented, in public, his confession as complete fact without doing any research. There is the presumption of innocence we all are granted and the State has a plethora of resources to prove guilt. Going on tv shouldn't be one of their methods.

Seems super dangerous to appeal that decision. While some people have reasonnable doubt about avery innocence. Only lunatics think Brendan belonged in jail.

LOL the same nonsensical pro-innocence arguments have been repeated itt for months now.

You could not be any less informed. Frankly, you have no idea what you are talking about. Appellate law can be incredibly complex and is filled with nuances that most lay persons just can't grasp.

You actually typed above that the federal court overstepped its role. What a silly statement to make.

What do you think the role is of the United States District Court? What is your reasoning that the court erred in asserting its jurisdiction to hear this and overstepping its role?

I would assume that the state will appeal this decision and it will go on for some time. What is interesting, is where the state will go. The judge relied so heavily on and citing a 7th district circuit court case that I can't see the state getting much relief there.

The state has a very tough road ahead with this confession. I doubt that it will be able to get this decision reversed. I also don't know what other evidence remains against dassey. Reading this thread I would be led to believe there is absolutely nothing. I doubt that is true. Whether it is enough to secure a conviction, I have no idea. I'm sure that is what the state is mulling over now.

Like those lunatics on the jury, the lunatic judge, the lunatics in Teresa Halbach's family, and by most accounts almost every lunatic in and around Wisconsin who ever had any interaction with the bizarre inbreeds of the Avery clan.

Yeah. Seems like appealing could turn into a PR nightmare

I wonder if it is dangerous. Even if the appeal is rejected will the State of Wisconsin be in any more trouble than if they don't appeal?

With the evident vindictiveness of some people in the State they could appeal just to sadistically cause Brendan to spend more time in prison even if they know the outcome is that he will ultimately be released.

I get the feeling they are all in, win or lose.

Dangerous for people career. Who want to be the one that appeal that decision when it s a super clear one. Avery require a ton of work from his lawyer since it require to prove he was framed or give some super good alternative etc...
Brendan required only to look at some tape and the lack of any other evidence. Avery has some evidences against him that you can doubt but at least they exist.

It's my impression (IANAL) that Duffin's decision can be appealed and overturned, reinstating the so-called confession. Perhaps someone knowledgeable about the legal aspects can shed some light on this.

With the coerced statements back in play it doesn't look good for Brendan - despite the lack of any forensic evidence.

It seems to me the only course of action for the people already in hot water is to try and appeal. They are all in and the only chance they have of salvaging anything is to brazen it out. Even if they lose, they can always argue that they really did believe Dassey was guilty but that he got off on a 'technicality'.

Damn those liberals and their Constitutional Rights!

But if it is up to people whose reputations are not already on the line they'd be wise to not double down on it - it would be a gamble for them.

I m sure it can be appealed, but even if they manage he ll get out even if it take a few more years and it will make a ton of people even more angry.
IMO it s a lose lose situation

I don't think they're very threatened by people in Illinois or Nebraska being angry.

They might be worried about the other corrupt officials in Wisconsin being angry if they don't do something to defend their reputations.

If Brendan read Kiss the Girls, Kayla watched Godfather II: