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08-12-2016 , 06:42 PM
Awesome news! Hopefully there is some way of actually punishing Kachinsky(or however it's spelled), but there probably isn't.
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08-12-2016 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
So what do you propose?
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08-12-2016 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Andro
Awesome news! Hopefully there is some way of actually punishing Kachinsky(or however it's spelled), but there probably isn't.
who would ever hire him again?
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08-12-2016 , 06:59 PM
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who would ever hire him again?
Yeah that's what he thought so he became a judge.
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08-12-2016 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by eddymitchel
I dont think they ll want to touch branden case with a 10 foot pole, any DA that want to work on that case is doing carreer suicide
He is not out of jail.

The state I believe just has 90 days to file an appeal.

I don't think there is any time frame where the appeal has to be heard. He could still be in jail for years.
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08-12-2016 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Banned4lyfe
So what do you propose?
After the reply I got from you,, I propose nothing now.
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08-12-2016 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Banned4lyfe
So what do you propose?
The problem with avery is that if he get out that can take 10 years.
I'm convinced he ll get out but betting on it is impractical
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08-12-2016 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
Pdf, http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-co...-and-Order.pdf

LOVE THIS!!
"Based on its review of the record, the court acknowledges significant doubts as to the reliability of Dassey's confession. Crucial details evolved through repeated leading and suggestive questioning and generally stopped changing only after the investigators, in some manner, indicated to Dassey that he finally gave the answer they were looking for. Purportedly corroborative details could have been the product of contamination from other sources, including the investigators' own statements and questioning, or simply logical guesses, rather than actual knowledge of the crime,. It is true that neither federal law nor the United States Constitution requires that the police even inform a juvenile's parents that the juvenile is being questioned or honor a juvenile's request that a parent or other adult (other than a lawyer) be present during questioning... Not only did Dassey not have the benefit of an adult present to look out for his interests, the investigators exploited the absence of such an adult by repeatedly suggesting that they were looking out for his interests," Duffin wrote. "Moreover, Dassey's borderline to below average intellectual ability likely made him more susceptible to coercive pressures than a peer of higher intellect."
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08-12-2016 , 07:16 PM
Hence my offer.


Edit: Offer is still in the table. Unless I die I'll honor the bet 20 years from now.
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08-12-2016 , 07:20 PM
So, how much will his gofundme page raise if/when he's released.
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08-12-2016 , 07:28 PM
Also: "Consequently, the court finds that the confession Dassey gave to the police on March 1, 2006 was so clearly involuntary in a constitutional sense that the court of appeals’ decision to the contrary was an unreasonable application of clearly established federal law."

"Kachinsky’s conduct was inexcusable both tactically and ethically"

Hmmm, food for thought.
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08-12-2016 , 07:31 PM
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So, how much will his gofundme page raise if/when he's released.
How much Will you donate?
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08-12-2016 , 07:33 PM
Can someone kindly post this tweet for me? thx.

https://twitter.com/GifJifApp/status/764197613344329728
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08-12-2016 , 07:38 PM
Kathleen Zellner ‏@ZellnerLaw
Justice for Brendan as another LE fabricated confession bites the dust. Convicting the innocent foiled by unbiased court. @MakingAMurderer
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08-12-2016 , 07:38 PM
[Tweet ] numbers [/tweet ]

No spaces
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08-12-2016 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
How much Will you donate?
$0

Money will most likely be spent by his mother
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08-12-2016 , 07:45 PM
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$0

Money will most likely be spent by his mother
Sad but true.

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Last edited by smacc25; 08-12-2016 at 07:51 PM. Reason: [tweet] :( :( :([/tweet] thx b4l but as you can see i'm old.
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08-12-2016 , 07:57 PM
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Hence my offer.


Edit: Offer is still in the table. Unless I die I'll honor the bet 20 years from now.
Indeed it was silly of me to propose a bet on this.

Offer is officially recanted.
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08-12-2016 , 08:00 PM
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Like I said before, I believe the flaws the series points out in the Dassey case are a lot more legitimate, and we have the full transcripts so we are able to know a lot more about the trial.

There's a lot of differences between:

the Avery case - all the evidence points to him doing it (and the defense's only case is the evidence was part of a complex conspiracy theory and/or technicalities in how the case was handled)
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the Dassey case - there's less evidence tying him to the murder, but he confessed to doing it. He definitely wasn't completely telling the truth, although it's still very possible he did murder her too (and he was definitely involved in some way that night).

And honestly, I'm still not sure the jury was wrong to convict him - evidence ties to him being involved in something, and he did confess to doing it, and I haven't read all of the transcripts. But I really don't know what to make of his case and think I would find him not guilty; it all really depends on the whole "false confession" issue and IANAL, so I don't know... We'll see what happens with Dassey's appeal.
Bumping my thoughts from months ago that I still stand by today.

At this point, I hope Brendan takes some kind of Alford plea admitting to helping Steven cover up the crime.
It'd be a real shame if history repeats itself and he once again gets ****ed over falling on his sword for Steven.
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08-12-2016 , 08:17 PM
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Bumping my thoughts from months ago that I still stand by today.

At this point, I hope Brendan takes some kind of Alford plea admitting to helping Steven cover up the crime.
It'd be a real shame if history repeats itself and he once again gets ****ed over falling on his sword for Steven.
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08-12-2016 , 09:22 PM
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"We fully expected this outcome from an unbiased court that carefully examined his confession. I was just visiting Steven Avery, and he is so happy for Brendan. We know when an unbiased court reviews all of the new evidence we have, Steven will have his conviction overturned as well," Kathleen Zellner said.
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08-12-2016 , 09:34 PM
Dassey should not have been convicted. I'm not 100% sure that he wasn't involved, but there was so much bull**** involved in his interrogation and prosecution that I will be happy when he's released. Avery, though, I'm less sure about...
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08-12-2016 , 09:47 PM
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Waiting for shills, revots and Fraley to comment lol.
If you read my posts I said multiple times that Dassey deserved a new trial, based solely on the incompetent representation he received.

Yes he still did it, no his confession wasn't coerced, yes he should be in jail for the rest of his life.
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08-12-2016 , 10:49 PM
Cliffs?
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